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	<title>Comments on: Where are the doves? Miller wants moderate owners to speak up</title>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, millertime, I agree with you. And I purposely used those condescending words to make a point. Meaning, if you resort to name calling and cussing, then you deserve the condescending remarks. You act like a kid, then you are treated like one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, millertime, I agree with you. And I purposely used those condescending words to make a point. Meaning, if you resort to name calling and cussing, then you deserve the condescending remarks. You act like a kid, then you are treated like one.</p>
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		<title>By: millertime30</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[millertime30]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you don&#039;t have it straight at all.. when you call someone with whom you have no acquaintance, &#039;son&#039; or &#039;young man&#039;, it is incredibly condescending, and will probably lead to reactions that you do not like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you don&#8217;t have it straight at all.. when you call someone with whom you have no acquaintance, &#8216;son&#8217; or &#8216;young man&#8217;, it is incredibly condescending, and will probably lead to reactions that you do not like.</p>
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		<title>By: valoisvipers</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valoisvipers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joey It&#039;s a tough job but someone has to teach the young&#039;ins &quot;everything they need to know about life&quot; (Movie Secondhand Lions) As for Gen Lee his just does this in between doing his cousin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey It&#8217;s a tough job but someone has to teach the young&#8217;ins &#8220;everything they need to know about life&#8221; (Movie Secondhand Lions) As for Gen Lee his just does this in between doing his cousin.</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[finfan88shark, it&#039;s reassuring to see others looking at the impasse and solution from an objective and pragmatic perspective. There has to be more of us here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finfan88shark, it&#8217;s reassuring to see others looking at the impasse and solution from an objective and pragmatic perspective. There has to be more of us here.</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[valoisvipers, yeah! I&#039;ve been a little sarcastic with the &quot;kids&quot; lately. Some are taking exception, and I suspect some here, like some players, lack the math skills to comprehend economics 101. Lol! The only one I don&#039;t get is General Lee. Not sure what he&#039;s doing here besides wasting time. He never has anything meaningful to write.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>valoisvipers, yeah! I&#8217;ve been a little sarcastic with the &#8220;kids&#8221; lately. Some are taking exception, and I suspect some here, like some players, lack the math skills to comprehend economics 101. Lol! The only one I don&#8217;t get is General Lee. Not sure what he&#8217;s doing here besides wasting time. He never has anything meaningful to write.</p>
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		<title>By: finfan88shark</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[finfan88shark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 06:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can make fun of JoeyID but he is right . How do players recoup lost revenue and lost years? How do players like Selanne and Jagr feel about not being able to play what could be their last seasons?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can make fun of JoeyID but he is right . How do players recoup lost revenue and lost years? How do players like Selanne and Jagr feel about not being able to play what could be their last seasons?</p>
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		<title>By: zetaone</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zetaone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t wish you death.  I just think you act like a clown in 9/10 of your posts on PHT.  Almost as if you are intentionally trying to annoy people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t wish you death.  I just think you act like a clown in 9/10 of your posts on PHT.  Almost as if you are intentionally trying to annoy people.</p>
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		<title>By: valoisvipers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valoisvipers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow Joey Did you piss in these young punks cornflakes today? Yes friend it appears the natives are restless tonight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Joey Did you piss in these young punks cornflakes today? Yes friend it appears the natives are restless tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: loinstache</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[loinstache]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 04:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew there was a reason I keep visiting this site]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew there was a reason I keep visiting this site</p>
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		<title>By: loinstache</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[loinstache]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 04:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s OK noc4ovi, I think you&#039;re swell and have awesome reading comprehension, you also swear really impressively :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s OK noc4ovi, I think you&#8217;re swell and have awesome reading comprehension, you also swear really impressively <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 04:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, noc4ovi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, noc4ovi.</p>
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		<title>By: noc4ovi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[noc4ovi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 04:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick loinstache, can you read a hole. Even when it&#039;s an opinion with facts people piss and cuss. Idiots like you have no idea what s happening. So, since you acted like a dick, I&#039;m telling you that you are a dick. Idiots like you make it so easy, son. lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick loinstache, can you read a hole. Even when it&#8217;s an opinion with facts people piss and cuss. Idiots like you have no idea what s happening. So, since you acted like a dick, I&#8217;m telling you that you are a dick. Idiots like you make it so easy, son. lol</p>
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		<title>By: millertime30</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[millertime30]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[words are hard, huh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>words are hard, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: millertime30</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[millertime30]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[don&#039;t know the difference between to want and to need?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t know the difference between to want and to need?</p>
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		<title>By: loinstache</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/where-are-the-doves-miller-wants-moderate-owners-to-speak-up/comment-page-1/#comment-115562</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[loinstache]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey here&#039;s a shocker, act like a dick and people treat you like one]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey here&#8217;s a shocker, act like a dick and people treat you like one</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 02:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok. Let see if I get this right. I write opinions, and, when possible try to back it with facts and you guys piss on me with cuss words, and name calling. I&#039;m being blatantly and purposely sarcastic, and people wish me death, and in the name of god. Wow!  Never realized that god would actually use his higher powers to hit me with lightning. You guys are pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. Let see if I get this right. I write opinions, and, when possible try to back it with facts and you guys piss on me with cuss words, and name calling. I&#8217;m being blatantly and purposely sarcastic, and people wish me death, and in the name of god. Wow!  Never realized that god would actually use his higher powers to hit me with lightning. You guys are pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: acieu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acieu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 02:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no god. He is a figment of Tim Tebows imagination so Joey is safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no god. He is a figment of Tim Tebows imagination so Joey is safe.</p>
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		<title>By: loinstache</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[loinstache]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have nothing invested in this discussion but do you actually expect people to think an adult is sitting behind the computer with a response like that? you sound like everyone&#039;s loner nephew who tries too hard to fit in at the adults table]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing invested in this discussion but do you actually expect people to think an adult is sitting behind the computer with a response like that? you sound like everyone&#8217;s loner nephew who tries too hard to fit in at the adults table</p>
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		<title>By: tbbolts91</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tbbolts91]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if there is a god, id4joey will be struck by lightning]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if there is a god, id4joey will be struck by lightning</p>
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		<title>By: acieu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acieu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feckin miller where at the dove players you shies bag]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feckin miller where at the dove players you shies bag</p>
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		<title>By: zetaone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zetaone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How hard do you try to sound like a holier-than-thou d-bag?  Or does it just come naturally to you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How hard do you try to sound like a holier-than-thou d-bag?  Or does it just come naturally to you?</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[shoobiedoobin, now now son. No need to get upset because we disagree. I know it’s difficult to accept you’re a child, but young man, you will one day understand.

Now, both sides can do what they want. Players don’t have to accept. However, by not accepting they stand to lose more money than if they were to accept. Are you old enough to remember what happened in 2004-05? If so, then please explain how players, for example, Jerone Iginla, recovered the $7 million he lost that year. Here you go, young man, an opportunity to prove you have the intellect to rationalize. I impatiently await.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shoobiedoobin, now now son. No need to get upset because we disagree. I know it’s difficult to accept you’re a child, but young man, you will one day understand.</p>
<p>Now, both sides can do what they want. Players don’t have to accept. However, by not accepting they stand to lose more money than if they were to accept. Are you old enough to remember what happened in 2004-05? If so, then please explain how players, for example, Jerone Iginla, recovered the $7 million he lost that year. Here you go, young man, an opportunity to prove you have the intellect to rationalize. I impatiently await.</p>
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		<title>By: ducksk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ducksk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[10 year contracts! Play like heck to earn 1,  then coast.  Plenty of those stories around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 year contracts! Play like heck to earn 1,  then coast.  Plenty of those stories around.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleguy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purpleguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Precisely what can they hope to accomplish sending in 6 players who retain business agents to negotiate their deals, to negotiate with 6 business owners that negotiate deals for a living?  Lacking negotiating experience, players will tend to get emotional.  When the NFL owners and players got together a year ago and the players became offended at the owners&#039; patronizing attitude, it was a disaster.  This ain&#039;t gonna be any better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely what can they hope to accomplish sending in 6 players who retain business agents to negotiate their deals, to negotiate with 6 business owners that negotiate deals for a living?  Lacking negotiating experience, players will tend to get emotional.  When the NFL owners and players got together a year ago and the players became offended at the owners&#8217; patronizing attitude, it was a disaster.  This ain&#8217;t gonna be any better.</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“I can’t make sense of what the owners truly need because they want everything.&quot; So, you do understand what they want? Wow! He&#039;s going to be in the meeting.... Jacobs is going to have fun in this meeting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I can’t make sense of what the owners truly need because they want everything.&#8221; So, you do understand what they want? Wow! He&#8217;s going to be in the meeting&#8230;. Jacobs is going to have fun in this meeting.</p>
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