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	<title>Comments on: Blackhawks players differ on what union&#8217;s next move should be</title>
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		<title>By: digger220or221</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[obviously, the gentleman from Vancouver doesn&#039;t quite get what these negotiations are all about- and obviously he is from a hockey town whose fans burn down their own city in celebration of their precious Canucks LOSING the Stanley Cup on home ice so go figure why he doesn&#039;t get it...grab a quarter, buy some IQ at a point per cent and double your IQ total you clueless waste of human flesh...oh, and leave commenting to people who actually understand hockey, not guys like you who celebrate losing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously, the gentleman from Vancouver doesn&#8217;t quite get what these negotiations are all about- and obviously he is from a hockey town whose fans burn down their own city in celebration of their precious Canucks LOSING the Stanley Cup on home ice so go figure why he doesn&#8217;t get it&#8230;grab a quarter, buy some IQ at a point per cent and double your IQ total you clueless waste of human flesh&#8230;oh, and leave commenting to people who actually understand hockey, not guys like you who celebrate losing</p>
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		<title>By: ven9898</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 23:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only bozos I&#039;ve seen are people from Vancouver. You meat whistle, go burn your town down again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only bozos I&#8217;ve seen are people from Vancouver. You meat whistle, go burn your town down again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, valoisvipers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, valoisvipers.</p>
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		<title>By: delsj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[delsj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My feeling is that the players will only use decertification after the owners cancel the season.  I don&#039;t think the players want the owners to be able to tell the fans that decertification was the reason the season was lost.  Once the 2012-13 campaign is shutdown completely, then the lawyers will take over for 6 months or so.  Like the NFL, litigation will be settled with a new CBA and everyone will then cross their fingers that the fans come back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My feeling is that the players will only use decertification after the owners cancel the season.  I don&#8217;t think the players want the owners to be able to tell the fans that decertification was the reason the season was lost.  Once the 2012-13 campaign is shutdown completely, then the lawyers will take over for 6 months or so.  Like the NFL, litigation will be settled with a new CBA and everyone will then cross their fingers that the fans come back.</p>
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		<title>By: valoisvipers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valoisvipers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chin up Joey, They could go as far as the 3rd week of Jan and still get at least a half season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chin up Joey, They could go as far as the 3rd week of Jan and still get at least a half season.</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/01/blackhawks-players-differ-on-what-unions-next-move-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-115165</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I hate to admit it, I do believe the season will be cancelled if no deal is made by Jan. I prefer being in denial though. My optimism is dwindling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate to admit it, I do believe the season will be cancelled if no deal is made by Jan. I prefer being in denial though. My optimism is dwindling.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsfan69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportsfan69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joey,

I concur.  It makes NO common sense.  You have to understand the players are living in a bubble.  The league they play in, is losing money.  They can&#039;t comprehend the financial idea, that you bring in (make) 50 million dollars, your expenses are 55 million dollars, that you&#039;re losing money.  Only the original six teams are making any decent money.  That&#039;s a serious problem, that&#039;s reality.  This &quot;make whole provision&quot; is just another obnoxious stand by the NHLPA.  They want it Guaranteed!  There&#039;s only three guarantees in life, it&#039;s life, death, and taxes. The maturity level of these players is just mind-bogging.     

As lifelong NHL fan, cancel the season after January 1, 2013.   Where&#039;s Blomfeld?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey,</p>
<p>I concur.  It makes NO common sense.  You have to understand the players are living in a bubble.  The league they play in, is losing money.  They can&#8217;t comprehend the financial idea, that you bring in (make) 50 million dollars, your expenses are 55 million dollars, that you&#8217;re losing money.  Only the original six teams are making any decent money.  That&#8217;s a serious problem, that&#8217;s reality.  This &#8220;make whole provision&#8221; is just another obnoxious stand by the NHLPA.  They want it Guaranteed!  There&#8217;s only three guarantees in life, it&#8217;s life, death, and taxes. The maturity level of these players is just mind-bogging.     </p>
<p>As lifelong NHL fan, cancel the season after January 1, 2013.   Where&#8217;s Blomfeld?</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players are bleeding. .... Give me a f en break.  The worse that can happen if they accept a deal now is they lose 12%. You call this bleeding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players are bleeding. &#8230;. Give me a f en break.  The worse that can happen if they accept a deal now is they lose 12%. You call this bleeding.</p>
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		<title>By: fortwaynekomets</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fortwaynekomets]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will always support the players as well.  F that goon Bettman who just needs more lines of coke to feed his addiction.

stop treating the players like little lambs in a slaughter house for Christ&#039;s sake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will always support the players as well.  F that goon Bettman who just needs more lines of coke to feed his addiction.</p>
<p>stop treating the players like little lambs in a slaughter house for Christ&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: acieu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acieu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Screw the NHLPA and the bozos who support them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw the NHLPA and the bozos who support them.</p>
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		<title>By: jpat2424</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jpat2424]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go to work. Greedy ass players]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to work. Greedy ass players</p>
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		<title>By: bricktop02</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bricktop02]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t have said it better raceman you are right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t have said it better raceman you are right.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsfan69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportsfan69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Decertification will lead to an NFL type of CBA.  No guarantee contracts.  Kiss this season goodbye, along with part of next year&#039;s.  If you&#039;re lucky.  

All the old CBA items (healthcare, pension, player stipends, etc.) become part of the new CBA negotiations.  They all have to be bargained for again.  There NOT an automatic given.   

It&#039;s a full reset.  Anti-trust cases can take typically 2-3 years to settle.  Who can afford to lose a couple years of salary?  

Also, 4 to 6 teams will be eliminated.  The defunct team owners will just take a capital loss, receive a tax breaks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decertification will lead to an NFL type of CBA.  No guarantee contracts.  Kiss this season goodbye, along with part of next year&#8217;s.  If you&#8217;re lucky.  </p>
<p>All the old CBA items (healthcare, pension, player stipends, etc.) become part of the new CBA negotiations.  They all have to be bargained for again.  There NOT an automatic given.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a full reset.  Anti-trust cases can take typically 2-3 years to settle.  Who can afford to lose a couple years of salary?  </p>
<p>Also, 4 to 6 teams will be eliminated.  The defunct team owners will just take a capital loss, receive a tax breaks.</p>
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		<title>By: receman99</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[receman99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re the bozo. The players have gave back &amp; the owners just say &quot;what else you got&quot;. The players bleed for the same owners that want the players to give back more and more. I will always support the players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re the bozo. The players have gave back &amp; the owners just say &#8220;what else you got&#8221;. The players bleed for the same owners that want the players to give back more and more. I will always support the players.</p>
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		<title>By: mattyo99</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mattyo99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Total apathy for at this point]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total apathy for at this point</p>
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		<title>By: bigoldorcafromvan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigoldorcafromvan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two bozos with two different bozo opinions.  I like the statement about the But at some point the players have certain negotiating tactics that we need to use. Up until now it’s been a waiting game.” I thought this was negotiations.  not waiting]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two bozos with two different bozo opinions.  I like the statement about the But at some point the players have certain negotiating tactics that we need to use. Up until now it’s been a waiting game.” I thought this was negotiations.  not waiting</p>
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