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Blackhawks players differ on what union’s next move should be

Dec 1, 2012, 2:30 PM EDT

Steve Montador AP

Blackhawks players Steve Montador and Jonathan Toews have had a vocal presence on the labor scene. Both have been at meetings and have spoken their mind about how the process is going. With talks stalled and things looking bleak, their opinions differ on what the next step should be.

CSNChicago.com’s Tracey Myers spoke with both players about what they believe should happen next and Montador says decertification looks like the way to go.

“It makes sense when this lockout has gone this long and there’s been no movement from the NHL and massive concessions from the players,” Blackhawks defenseman and player representative Steve Montador said recently. “It’s unfortunate that we have to consider such measures, but it’s a serious one.”

Toews doesn’t quite see it that way, saying decertification is “an option.”

“I’m not sure if it’s the most imminent choice right now,” Toews said. “But at some point the players have certain negotiating tactics that we need to use. Up until now it’s been a waiting game.”

With opinions differing like this, even among teammates, this is where Donald Fehr’s job is as tricky as it’s ever been.

  1. bigoldorcafromvan - Dec 1, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    Two bozos with two different bozo opinions. I like the statement about the But at some point the players have certain negotiating tactics that we need to use. Up until now it’s been a waiting game.” I thought this was negotiations. not waiting

    • ven9898 - Dec 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM

      Only bozos I’ve seen are people from Vancouver. You meat whistle, go burn your town down again…

      • digger220or221 - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:33 PM

        obviously, the gentleman from Vancouver doesn’t quite get what these negotiations are all about- and obviously he is from a hockey town whose fans burn down their own city in celebration of their precious Canucks LOSING the Stanley Cup on home ice so go figure why he doesn’t get it…grab a quarter, buy some IQ at a point per cent and double your IQ total you clueless waste of human flesh…oh, and leave commenting to people who actually understand hockey, not guys like you who celebrate losing

  2. mattyo99 - Dec 1, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Total apathy for at this point

  3. receman99 - Dec 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    You’re the bozo. The players have gave back & the owners just say “what else you got”. The players bleed for the same owners that want the players to give back more and more. I will always support the players.

  4. sportsfan69 - Dec 1, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Decertification will lead to an NFL type of CBA. No guarantee contracts. Kiss this season goodbye, along with part of next year’s. If you’re lucky.

    All the old CBA items (healthcare, pension, player stipends, etc.) become part of the new CBA negotiations. They all have to be bargained for again. There NOT an automatic given.

    It’s a full reset. Anti-trust cases can take typically 2-3 years to settle. Who can afford to lose a couple years of salary?

    Also, 4 to 6 teams will be eliminated. The defunct team owners will just take a capital loss, receive a tax breaks.

  5. bricktop02 - Dec 1, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    Couldn’t have said it better raceman you are right.

  6. jpat2424 - Dec 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Go to work. Greedy ass players

  7. acieu - Dec 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Screw the NHLPA and the bozos who support them.

  8. fortwaynekomets - Dec 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    I will always support the players as well. F that goon Bettman who just needs more lines of coke to feed his addiction.

    stop treating the players like little lambs in a slaughter house for Christ’s sake.

  9. id4joey - Dec 1, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    The players are bleeding. …. Give me a f en break. The worse that can happen if they accept a deal now is they lose 12%. You call this bleeding.

  10. sportsfan69 - Dec 1, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Joey,

    I concur. It makes NO common sense. You have to understand the players are living in a bubble. The league they play in, is losing money. They can’t comprehend the financial idea, that you bring in (make) 50 million dollars, your expenses are 55 million dollars, that you’re losing money. Only the original six teams are making any decent money. That’s a serious problem, that’s reality. This “make whole provision” is just another obnoxious stand by the NHLPA. They want it Guaranteed! There’s only three guarantees in life, it’s life, death, and taxes. The maturity level of these players is just mind-bogging.

    As lifelong NHL fan, cancel the season after January 1, 2013. Where’s Blomfeld?

  11. id4joey - Dec 1, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    As much as I hate to admit it, I do believe the season will be cancelled if no deal is made by Jan. I prefer being in denial though. My optimism is dwindling.

    • valoisvipers - Dec 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM

      Chin up Joey, They could go as far as the 3rd week of Jan and still get at least a half season.

  12. delsj - Dec 2, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    My feeling is that the players will only use decertification after the owners cancel the season. I don’t think the players want the owners to be able to tell the fans that decertification was the reason the season was lost. Once the 2012-13 campaign is shutdown completely, then the lawyers will take over for 6 months or so. Like the NFL, litigation will be settled with a new CBA and everyone will then cross their fingers that the fans come back.

  13. id4joey - Dec 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Thanks, valoisvipers.

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