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Raising Arizona: Glendale City Council votes to approve Coyotes lease agreement

Nov 28, 2012, 12:34 AM EDT

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Is this long saga in the desert at an end? Perhaps it is after the Glendale City Council voted 4-2 in favor of the city’s 20-year, $320 million lease agreement for prospective Phoenix Coyotes buyer Greg Jamison.

The agreement will help the team stay in Jobing.com Arena and hand over duties of managing the facility to Jamison. The one catch here is he’llĀ have until January 31, 2013 to close on the sale of the team or else the process, with a newly voted in city council, will begin all over again.

Outgoing mayor Elaine Scruggs, who was against the deal, was not pleased at the outcome of the vote saying, “The public will find they were mislead.” She then added, “I choose to support people in other types of uniforms. Police uniforms, fire uniforms…not Coyotes uniforms.”

Yikes.

Is this the end of the story for now? Let’s hope so, but the track record over the last three years says there’s always a twist waiting to be unleashed.

  1. samurai3939 - Nov 28, 2012 at 1:02 AM

    Yet another Bettman mess. Coyotes are one of the reasons we are having a lockout now. Should have been moved or folded five years ago.

    • ron05342 - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:12 AM

      Pathetic comment. Coyotes issues have nothing to do with the lockout.

      • hawknuts - Nov 28, 2012 at 8:31 AM

        the league loses a lot of money every season propping up the coyotes (last couple of years even with playoff caliber team on the ice).

        the lockout is based on economics, the coyotes are an economic issue the league is responsible for, therefore the coyotes are at least part of why their is a lockout right now.

        Jeff- how does blaming the last owner of the original jets franchise alleviate the fact that they chose to move the team to arizona? it could have been put in seattle, kansas city etc… bettman wanted the television rights to arizona so that he could gain in a national television contract when the time came. Its the same reason he threw 3 teams in california (kings, ducks, sharks) when the seals were originally there to be moved to pittsburgh and then replaced regionally with the kings. The winnipeg community couldn’t fix the atrocious canadian dollar in the mid 90′s just like the people of phoenix can’t change the value of american currency right now.

        Larger international eonomic issues are always at play when luxury expenses such as sports franchises are in the midst of relocation or closure because the owners have to ensure they are covered financially from their assets that actually make them money continue to do so in order to afford the ones that don’t.

        This deal is contigent on a new labour agreement being completed by the end of january 2013, for the sake of coyotes fans who want this you’d better hope the players don’t decertify next week like it seems they are going to.

      • rogersjd16 - Nov 28, 2012 at 8:43 AM

        Haha, actually it has an incredible amount to do with it. You might have heard, or maybe not given your comment, that Revenue Sharing is a little bit of a sticking point with these negotiations. And that there’s discord within the owners themselves between the haves and have nots.

        So, yea. Your comment is the pathetic one.

      • ron05342 - Nov 28, 2012 at 8:57 AM

        @hawknuts:

        You need a hockey history lesson: The Kings came into the league with the original expansion ni 1967. Bettman was nowhere near hockey in 1967 (I believe he was around (according to Wikipedia, he was 15 years old at the time).

        The Seals and the Penguins also came in at the same time, so the Seals would never have been moved to Pittsburgh. They moved to Cleveland in 1976 as the Barons and then were collapsed and merged with the Minnesota North Stars a couple of seasons later.

        The Kings didn’t replace anyone “regionally”; they were already there.

      • sporkov - Nov 29, 2012 at 2:34 AM

        hawknuts, the city of Glendale has been footing about 85% of the losses over the past two season by contributing $50 million.

  2. Jeff - Nov 28, 2012 at 1:41 AM

    Southern, western expansion predates Bettman. So whatever dire straits the Coyotes organization finds itself in, it’s not Bettman’s fault. Why not blame the owner who owned the Jets? Or the Winnipeg community that couldn’t keep them there?

  3. x50cal - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:37 AM

    There is always dbags that want to hate! Btw get your facts straight and leave smart comments! Go yotes!!!

  4. guitarmy204 - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    In interested to see how the new owner plans to make money. Pretty much no one shows up to games already. So raising ticket prices won’t help much and may make people who already go reconsider.

    • ron05342 - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:16 AM

      “Pretty much no one shows up to games already.”

      The surest way to lose credibility here is to make comments like this.

      While they have low attendance figures (averaged a little under 13,000 last season), they have an extremely loyal following and yes they can make money if they get their season numbers up. Certainly they cannot raise ticket prices at this point in time but I see a long future in Phoenix IF they have a stable, independent owner for that future.

      • guitarmy204 - Nov 28, 2012 at 10:03 AM

        I’m confused how having a stable owner will bring more fans to a team that has had 2 pretty decent seasons and still get no fans. No one is sitting at home thinking “now that they have an owner I am going to buy season tickets”. I think you are grasping at straws. Enjoy the next 3-5 years before they move to Quebec or southern Ontario.

      • ron05342 - Nov 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM

        @guitarmy204:

        I guess you don’t follow PHT too much…most people here already know I am a Kings fan who has season tickets and yes thank you I enjoyed the latter part of the season and the playoffs very much thank you.

        So on top of exaggerated statements you also assume wrongly as well. Congratulations.

  5. pavelfitzgerald - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    “they can make money if they get their season numbers up” … Ummm, thats great & all but no other team in the league would be given what is it? 16 straight years of losing money EVERY year!! Not 1 year or 2 years but some 16 seasons!!
    How do you lose money when you make it to the Western Conference finals?!?!?
    I feel bad for the people of Glendale as their tax dollars will pay for this mess. I feel equally as bad for the players whose salaries (thru HRR) are tied to this. Only Gary Bettman

    • sporkov - Nov 29, 2012 at 2:35 AM

      It is over 20 years if you include the years in Winnipeg. I am a Coyotes and former STH.

      • sporkov - Nov 29, 2012 at 2:38 AM

        Coyotes fan…

  6. thailer35 - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Alright now Mr. Jamison, finish undoing what that Phoeniphobe Gretzky and co started! Show that hockey is viable in the Valley of the Sun! I’ll be there for the hanging of that Pacific Division Champs banner when mother Gary says it’s okay for us all to play again!

    Bring on the ignorant Phoeniphobic comments and thumbs down!

  7. antkowiak666 - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    once again,YOU CAN’T FORCE PEOPLE TO LIKE HOCKEY!!

    • thailer35 - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

      ^Exactly what I was talking about.

  8. serbvet1 - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Thailer35- I will be right beside you! Hopefully when this lockout ends the Yotes will continue building on what Tippett and Maloney have been building over the past 3 years.

    All the naysayers should actually come to the Valley and see the explosion in Youth Hockey and understand that Phoenix IS a good market for hockey- both Youth and NHL.

    Jamison is no dummy.

  9. samurai3939 - Nov 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    Love the delusional hockey fans who ignore the tons of money that has been dumped into this sand hole waste of a franchise. And this teams issues are clearly one of the reasons we are having another lockout. This IS Bettmans fault because he should have folded this team instead of supporting it. All 200 yotes fans can go pick another team or watch scorpions fight in the desert. Phx and COlumbus need to be moved or folded now.

  10. id4joey - Nov 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Joe Yerdon, what would have happened to the Coyotes if the season had started in Oct? Is there a correlation between the lockout and the situation in Phoenix?

    • zetaone - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM

      Your ideas are always ridiculous joey..

      • id4joey - Nov 28, 2012 at 5:24 PM

        Well, son. It was just a question. Sometimes you must think outside the box. Yes?

    • Joe Yerdon - Nov 28, 2012 at 5:01 PM

      No correlation between the lockout and the Coyotes situation at all. This has been ongoing since Moyes went bankrupt back in 2009.

      • zetaone - Nov 28, 2012 at 6:26 PM

        lol.

      • zetaone - Nov 28, 2012 at 6:27 PM

        sorry, should have said I lol’d at your username.

      • zetaone - Nov 28, 2012 at 6:28 PM

        wrong comment I replied to again.. Man I wish you could edit/delete your comments here lol..

      • Joe Yerdon - Nov 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM

        Take a breather. Sit the next round out and come back strong.

      • zetaone - Nov 28, 2012 at 6:42 PM

        :D

  11. zetaone - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    I’ve lived in Phoenix for 3 years now, and I can see what both sides are saying. There are indeed hockey fans here; more than you can count on your hands as people like to joke. I’ve only been to a few games because I could care less about the team (die hard Sabres fan). The Sabres/Yotes games I went to, there seemed to be more of us Sabres fans there than Coyote.

    I’m no economist or city planner, but I think the one huge mistake the Coyotes (and other sports teams) have made is that they aren’t located in the city center. They are located in Glendale which is about a 20 mile drive from downtown Phoenix. The majority of people that can afford to attend games live in Scottsdale, Tempe and Mesa (which are even further away). They have their huge complex (similar to the New England Patriots, and Philadelphia sports teams, etc) all in one area. They have shopping and dining, hotels, plus the Arizona Cardinals stadium next door. But that’s pretty much all there is over there; it’s surrounded by suburbs and farmland. Our basketball and baseball teams however are downtown (where I think they should be).

    I had the same issue in Buffalo with the Bills. I couldn’t understand why they would build the stadium out of the heart of downtown Buffalo. It would seem more economically viable to the team and city which shares its name for them to be in the same location, and not out in suburbs where no other businesses can flourish, and less people make it to games. However, Buffalo sports teams have never really had this issue, even though they have gone a combined 80+ years without winning a championship (Bills/Sabres).

  12. fiddytucker - Nov 30, 2012 at 3:09 AM

    samurai3939 | Nov 27, 2012, 11:02 PM MST
    Yet another Bettman mess. Coyotes are one of the reasons we are having a lockout now. Should have been moved or folded five years ago.

    This guy? I would like to see his before and after pics from the sex change operation.

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