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Crosby: “The whole process is frustrating”

Nov 27, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT

Sidney Crosby AP

Sidney Crosby admitted to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette* on Monday that he’s experiencing the same feeling as many in the hockey world: sheer frustration.

“I think a lot of guys are frustrated with … the not-talking,” Crosby said. “We understand the business side, that there are negotiations and proposals going back and forth, that kind of thing.”

“But I think the whole process is frustrating. If we really want to get something done, I feel like we have to be there every single day, no matter what.”

Instead, meetings are sporadic at best – unless you put a lot of stock in brief, informal phone calls. With negotiations stalled, the focus shifts to debates about mediation, decertification and cancellations.

It can indeed get under an invested onlooker’s skin, but Crosby hopes that the two sides grind it out.

“Getting frustrated isn’t going to change it,” Crosby said. “It’s up to everyone to find a way to make it work.”

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  1. richter35lundqvist30 - Nov 27, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    As a Rangers fan its easy not to be crazy about this guy but you have to feel for him. He’s finally healthy and now he can’t play. That being said it’s nice hearing someone say “…I feel like we have to be there every single day, no matter what.” If they negotiated 5 times a week from the get go instead of a bi-weekly gossip call for Daly and Fehr jr we would be talking about the would be Winter Classic instead of some dope’s twitter account.

  2. matt8204 - Nov 27, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Another reason to tell these guys to take a hike. The lack of effort and urgency to end this has been appalling, especially considering what happened eight years ago. It’s like someone surviving a near-death experience, then going right back to the same habits that almost killed him in the first place, with almost no effort to change his lifestyle.

    • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:02 AM

      I’m frustrated with all of them as well. That includes the owners and the players as well as their representatives in Bettman and Fehr. BUT, I love hockey and I want to see played HERE in North America at the highest level. What good can come from walking away from the sport?

      Human nature will always fill people with pride and greed it’s inevitable. They have to keep working at it and we have to have faith that the sport recovers and continues to grow.

      Hockey has the fewest amount of ghetto style thug personas of any of the major sports. Interviews with players are almost always coherent. I like the fact that if and when I have kids the values the players have match up to my values. All of that seperates hockey from any other sport and I’m not willing to turn my back on it, just because two lawyers (Bettman and Fehr) have made this labor negotiation their own personal Jihad.

      • matt8204 - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:25 AM

        Understandable. I wish I could support the NHL going forward, but I’m finding myself enjoying it less and less because of this. And you know they’re going to do the same dance when the next CBA expires. Nothing changes. I’m also tired of being taken for granted as a fan. If people did walk away, perhaps they’d think twice about doing this again. Look what happened to baseball after the ’94 strike. Attendance fell 20 percent when they came back. I think it put a bit of fear into everyone. It took a steroid-induced home run race to get people back. MLB hasn’t had any work stoppages since. Change only comes when there are consequences for your actions. If everyone comes running back after this one (especially if the season is canceled), the league and players will truly be emboldened next time. Let’s miss two seasons to get our own way- we know the fans will be there whenever we return.

      • williplett - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM

        1.) “What good can come from walking away from the sport?”

        I feel like the sport, at the NHL level, has walked away from me. And there is plenty of blame to go around.

        2.) “Hockey has the fewest amount of ghetto style thug personas of any of the major sports. Interviews with players are almost always coherent.”

        I can’t be the only one who feels like you pretty much meant “the sport with the fewest black trouble makers playing it” here. You should maybe check that. Anyway, there have been more than a few NHLers and prospects causing trouble of late and have you ever heard some of the leagues younger, less educated players take the mic? Saying the word LIKE every other word is usually not a sign of genius.

      • dimahdozen - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM

        fewest amount of ghetto style thug personas? Really? Did you see the start of the play offs last year? Half the damn league is all about violence and machismo. Maybe their rural North American educations have taught them the King’s english that you are accustomed to but if you really listen half of them are as dumb as a damn Golden Retriever, and we love them for it. I assume you didn’t mean it but I really DO NOT want my sport to become the home of racists and people who hate young inner city black men.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Nov 27, 2012 at 3:35 PM

        @williplett – 1.) walked away from you? As a sports league of business owners looking to make a profit, they are entitled to try and hash out whatever agreement they need to stay as profitable as they see fit. Supermarkets mark up every item 35 to 40% before they sell it, retailers have even larger margins than that., so why is it as soon as we attach a face to it in sports or finance do so many people act/feel like someone has just threatened their first amendment rights? I’m not trying to be condescending when I say “that’s the way capitalism works”, it’s simply a fact. Both sides want to playing games and making money and their both wrong because their pride and “take it or leave it” mentality is preventing that.

        @ both williplett and dimahdozen – Since I brought up the first ammendent, why is it sooo wrong to point out a trend so obvious that it smacks us in face all the time, yet no one speaks about because some people automatically assume it’s the hatred of young black men.

        Maybe it’s because people like myself wrongly label the problem as a “ghetto style thug persona” when in reality it’s simply players feeling a sense of entitlement or unjust victimization that manifests itself in obnoxious and often stupid behavior and communication. With that in mind somewhere along the lines I became disenchanted when people stopped revering guys like Warren Moon and allowed him to be replaced by Micheal Vick same as John Elway being replaced by Ben Rothlisburger. Or Hank Aaron’s classy humble persona being replaced by Barry Bonds same as Nolan Ryan being replaced Roger Clemons……..I could go on but hopefully you can see my point.

        Immature people can grow, mature and evolve regardless of race. But it seems that in hockey we hear more examples of the classy humble persona that guys like Hank Aaron, Nolan Ryan, Warren Moon and John Elway embodied. That is what I fear losing more than any season of any sport.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Nov 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM

        @Matt8204 – While I understand the feeling that “since what we say doesn’t make a difference, maybe leaving will”……I have a few feelings regarding that.

        1.) Baseball was America’s past time before ’94 strike. While basball has recovered some and a steroid induced home run race helped Football became the #1 sport during that same period. Baseball was drawing from a much larger base of hardcore fans before that lockout……..330 million people here in the states where its roots began compared to 30 million in cananda where hockey’s roots began.

        2.) Baseball still hasn’t completely reached pre 94 lockout support among baseball fans….heck many people simply still watch because football hasn’t started yet and basketball and hockey are finishing up. It’s really the only major sport that doesn’t have to compete with the other three for two full months of the year.

        3.) Do you really want Hockey to relect basball where parity is almost non existent considering 5 of 10 playoff treams were teams in the top 10 in spending. (8 in the top 15 if you really want to break it down) Add to that the fact that the average baseball salary is 3.3 million dollars and it’s no wonder only a third of the teams in the league can consistently compete.

        I studied finance, and I understand the notion of market value BUT in the same way I think columbus and pheonix are bad for the league in their inability to remain profitable I think Toronto, Montreal, NYR, Philly and Detroit are dangerous because of their ability to outspend 20 out of 30 teams at will.

  3. mpg44 - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    What an a$$hole!! He has been one of the keeping this circus going from the becoming . Beware what you wish for!!

    • ibieiniid - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM

      take this from a Flyers fan:

      You’re wrong.

  4. bigoldorcafromvan - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    As long as the NHLPA is keeping Fehr as the lead negotiator the players will not be playing in the NHL this year or even next. Decertify the PA and deal with it. Until then Sid your going to be frustrated everyday.

    • tatdue - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

      So smart guy, who do you think the players will have as representation after they decertify the union and take the owners to court?

      • bigoldorcafromvan - Nov 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM

        sounds like you have a man crush on for Fuhr.
        They can use their agents. The agents would do a better job than Fuhr can.

  5. ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    I actually love this accusation because race participation is not what I believe has changed the mentality of the players. This hot button issue has caused people to overlook the degeneration of how players carry and conduct themselves. And there are examples of this in every sport.

    Race is not an issue with me…..And, most player’s will act and speak more immaturally from ages 18 to 24 of any race. (And so have many of us btw.) But at some point I think we all would appreciate character and class to show through over chest thumping, incoherent interviews.

  6. cloudniner9 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    Enough is enough, these two idiots (Bettman and Fehr) have high-jacked the game we all love, it’s clear that neither one is a fan and dont care if they kill the NHL, It’s time for a group of players (thats you Sid) and the owners to step up fire these two and sit in a room together and fix this. Both sides have messed this up to a point that even hard core fans like me are turning away

  7. sharksfan97 - Nov 27, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Not many people care any more, Sid. To be honest, I still do but even that is fading gradually. The NHL is a dysfunctional mess and the fact that the sport is led by a draconian Napoleon (Bettman) does not help. If you look at the number of fan comments on these boards they accurately show the dwindling interest in this saga as well as the league. If it were possible, I’d love to see a competing league emerge, but because the league has been around for so long, and because of the money and people involved in the NHL, I think this idea is likely a pipe dream.

  8. Jeff - Nov 28, 2012 at 1:48 AM

    Accept the owners’ terms and it won’t be frustrating anymore.

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