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NHLPA memo calls offer a “major move in the owners’ direction”

Nov 21, 2012, 1:56 PM EDT

Donald Fehr: Sidney Crosby AP

In a memo to the players, NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr shared details of today’s union proposal to the NHL.

Fehr calls the offer a “major move in the owners’ direction” that leaves the two sides $182 million apart over five years, and that gap is “undisputed.”

The memo also outlines the players’ offer with regards to issues like revenue sharing, back-diving contracts, burying contracts in the minors and discipline.

You can read the full memo here.

Clearly the NHLPA wanted the details of its proposal to go public. Now it’s the NHL’s turn to feel the pressure.

  1. chrisvegas - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Will the owners stop crying now and get a deal done?

  2. pariseinminnesotabichez - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    Lets get this done! Cmon Owners!

  3. blkhwk21 - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Owners will state that its a move in the right direction, however there is still allot of ground to be covered. NHLPA will then state that they are at a stand still – same story different week. Figure it out by Oct 13

    • blitzrunner29 - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:17 PM

      Perhaps…..but that would be better than Daly issuing another “Not even close” statement.

      • chrisvegas - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM

        Exactly blitzrunner29. Now if the owners are serious about getting a deal done they need to give up some of their demands and meet the players in the middle. Though we have all seen how unreasonable and greedy the owners are, so blkhwk21 may be right that in the sense the owners may not be satisfied with this offer and demand more. The players on the otherhand have put their egos to the side and showed again a real willingness to get a deal done.

  4. sjsharks66 - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    I think we find out today that we have a season.

  5. Stiller43 - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    The owners will probably say that theyre almost a quarter billion short of making anything close to acceptable.

    Granted i dont have the full details of the gap the PA is trying to bridge, but it seems like they are meeting the owners more than halfway…i hope the owners can meet them halfway (or whatever %…)

  6. bcsteele - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    This is a pretty fair deal after reading the whole thing. I do wish the term was longer to avoid all this BS. Fingers crossed.

  7. blkhwk21 - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Chris- I hope I’m not right, I thought we were days away from a deal two weeks ago and then it all went south. Tired of getting my hopes up- but definitely want hockey to resume

    • chrisvegas - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:43 PM

      Me to but you are just being realistic. Hopefully this is a big enough move by the players to get a deal done with the owners.

  8. thomaspratt - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Sounds fair and sounds like an ingenious way for the PA to once again put the onus on the league. Either the league is interested in a compromise and is loathe to cancel a second full season in less than 10 years, or they are simply interested in plowing the PA under. My own perception is that the league felt like they would be able to control the lockout, but are maybe now realizing they don’t have control at all. Maybe that miscalculation will cause the league to moderate their position

  9. habsman - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    It is not a good sign that the PA has decided to release this memo before a response from the league.

    • chrisvegas - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:49 PM

      Both sides always do that. Nothing out of the ordinary.

  10. shotzongoal - Nov 21, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    This will be hard for the owners to swallow

    “There are no guarantees or fixed targets, other than a requirement that, beginning with the second year of the Agreement, players’ share, expressed in dollars, may not fall below its value for the prior season. This proposal allows us to determine players’ share regardless of the effects of the lockout and its aftermath.

    • davebabychreturns - Nov 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM

      Yep. Again, in principle at least, the players have avoided an offer that involves complete and direct linkage.

      However in practice it would be pretty tough to see HRR fall as far as it inevitably will this year and not bounce back in subsequent years.

    • tatdue - Nov 21, 2012 at 4:18 PM

      Owners chose the lock out = owners pay for the lock out….

      • habsman - Nov 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM

        The players forced the lockout by refusing to negotiate for seven months prior to the start of the regular season schedule.

  11. finfan88shark - Nov 21, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    Of course the NHLPA is going to say that. So did the NHL in their last offer. Both sides just need to shut up and get a deal done.

  12. capsrockva - Nov 21, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    If the owners don’t take this proposal and move a little towards the players then we won’t have hockey for a long time. I’ve read the entire proposal and it seems to me that the players moved towards the owners w/ this. If they don’t than we can forget about a season this year and perhaps many more. Get the deal done already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • valoisvipers - Nov 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM

      I suggest you reread it, I think you skipped over a few tidbits.

  13. valoisvipers - Nov 21, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news but this so called new offer is not going to fly.
    Fehr again has failed and lied. He says no guarantees other than a requirement that, beginning with the second year of the Agreement, players’ share, expressed in dollars, may not fall below its value for the prior season. He also says that Player share will equal 50% of HRR, plus these fixed dollar payments attributable to the first four years of the agreement:

    – 2012/13: $ 182M
    – 2013/14: $ 128M
    – 2014/15: $ 72M
    – 2015/16: $ 11M
    So basic what he saying is 50-50 split plus 182 million in the first year and then the players can not make any less each year after. How is this a new offer or any kind of concession. It’s a guaranteed key to the owner’s vault.

  14. sadhockeyfan - Nov 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    Get over it people! This season is NOT going to happen! Greed at its worst!

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