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	<title>Comments on: Fehr: &#8220;No reciprocity&#8221; from NHL after NHLPA proposal</title>
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		<title>By: Donkey Hodey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey Hodey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@joeb2

The Forbes numbers also don&#039;t include luxury suites, so those dollars have no effect on average ticket prices OR on what Forbes counts as part of their gate receipts; the net effect on the analysis is zero and there&#039;s still an unexplained difference.

If you&#039;re looking for something believable to show you how skewed the Forbes numbers are, I&#039;d point you to comments made by the NHL during the last lockout which said those numbers are extremely flawed, or by Ted Leonsis when he called the numbers incredibly flawed and said it was precisely because the NHL hides information.

Believe what you want because it&#039;s easier, but you&#039;re a sucker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@joeb2</p>
<p>The Forbes numbers also don&#8217;t include luxury suites, so those dollars have no effect on average ticket prices OR on what Forbes counts as part of their gate receipts; the net effect on the analysis is zero and there&#8217;s still an unexplained difference.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for something believable to show you how skewed the Forbes numbers are, I&#8217;d point you to comments made by the NHL during the last lockout which said those numbers are extremely flawed, or by Ted Leonsis when he called the numbers incredibly flawed and said it was precisely because the NHL hides information.</p>
<p>Believe what you want because it&#8217;s easier, but you&#8217;re a sucker.</p>
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		<title>By: aventador12</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ sjsharks66: you and me both. (-_-)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ sjsharks66: you and me both. (-_-)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kitshky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kitshky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Technically you&#039;ve jinxed an outcome .. sooo ... now we&#039;re gonna have a season!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically you&#8217;ve jinxed an outcome .. sooo &#8230; now we&#8217;re gonna have a season!!</p>
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		<title>By: woodstakes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[woodstakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NHLPA won&#039;t ask for anything like that... they would lose jobs. The Union wants as many jobs at the highest pay they can get.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NHLPA won&#8217;t ask for anything like that&#8230; they would lose jobs. The Union wants as many jobs at the highest pay they can get.</p>
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		<title>By: woodstakes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[woodstakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bah my miscalculation in haste, I realized after I hit post.. should say:

So that’s a difference of $1.2 billion in revenue increase from ’03-’04 to ’11-’12. Teams are paying out $367M more in contracts over the same period of time. So that’s $833M to the plus side, divided by the 30 teams that’s roughly $27.76M more per team… so if owners are so broke… where is all that money going??? It’s not going to the players, so who??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah my miscalculation in haste, I realized after I hit post.. should say:</p>
<p>So that’s a difference of $1.2 billion in revenue increase from ’03-’04 to ’11-’12. Teams are paying out $367M more in contracts over the same period of time. So that’s $833M to the plus side, divided by the 30 teams that’s roughly $27.76M more per team… so if owners are so broke… where is all that money going??? It’s not going to the players, so who??</p>
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		<title>By: woodstakes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[woodstakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys are all calling for another example of owners greed.. here&#039;s one:

&quot;Beyond the dissonance between the owners’ desire to pay less and their continued demonstrated ability to pay more, there are hard numbers. In 2003-04, the last season before the only labor-erased season in the history of major North American pro sports, NHL teams paid $1.332 billion in player salaries, according to USA Today’s salary database. In 2011-12, NHL teams paid $1.699 billion in player salaries. Adjusting for inflation, salaries rose just over $84 million over the last eight years, an average of $2.8 million per team.”

“While salaries are slightly higher than they were eight years ago, NHL revenues are not. In 2003-04, league revenues were $2.1 billion. In 2011-12, that figure reached $3.3 billion.&quot;

source: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2012-08-23/nhl-labor-talks-gary-bettman-lockout-sept-15-cba-player-salaries-zach-parise

So that’s a difference of $1.2 billion in revenue increase from ’03-’04 to ’11-’12. Teams are paying out $367M more in contracts over the same period of time. So that’s $833M to the plus side, divided by the 32 teams that’s roughly $26M more per team… so if owners are so broke… where is all that money going??? It’s not going to the players, so who??
IDK apparently a lot of teams are WAY richer than we all thought and maybe if the elites think we should have 30 teams in the locals we do, well maybe they should figure out another way to share the revenue. Because, getting back 7% or even 15% more ISN&#039;T going to save 15-18 teams. Yet, they are unwilling to adjust the way they are doing things; it’s ALL the player salaries that are the problem here. I don&#039;t THINK SO!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are all calling for another example of owners greed.. here&#8217;s one:</p>
<p>&#8220;Beyond the dissonance between the owners’ desire to pay less and their continued demonstrated ability to pay more, there are hard numbers. In 2003-04, the last season before the only labor-erased season in the history of major North American pro sports, NHL teams paid $1.332 billion in player salaries, according to USA Today’s salary database. In 2011-12, NHL teams paid $1.699 billion in player salaries. Adjusting for inflation, salaries rose just over $84 million over the last eight years, an average of $2.8 million per team.”</p>
<p>“While salaries are slightly higher than they were eight years ago, NHL revenues are not. In 2003-04, league revenues were $2.1 billion. In 2011-12, that figure reached $3.3 billion.&#8221;</p>
<p>source: <a href="http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2012-08-23/nhl-labor-talks-gary-bettman-lockout-sept-15-cba-player-salaries-zach-parise" rel="nofollow">http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2012-08-23/nhl-labor-talks-gary-bettman-lockout-sept-15-cba-player-salaries-zach-parise</a></p>
<p>So that’s a difference of $1.2 billion in revenue increase from ’03-’04 to ’11-’12. Teams are paying out $367M more in contracts over the same period of time. So that’s $833M to the plus side, divided by the 32 teams that’s roughly $26M more per team… so if owners are so broke… where is all that money going??? It’s not going to the players, so who??<br />
IDK apparently a lot of teams are WAY richer than we all thought and maybe if the elites think we should have 30 teams in the locals we do, well maybe they should figure out another way to share the revenue. Because, getting back 7% or even 15% more ISN&#8217;T going to save 15-18 teams. Yet, they are unwilling to adjust the way they are doing things; it’s ALL the player salaries that are the problem here. I don&#8217;t THINK SO!</p>
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		<title>By: ermur22</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ermur22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about contracting some teams? The ones that don&#039;t make money get rid of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about contracting some teams? The ones that don&#8217;t make money get rid of.</p>
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		<title>By: valoisvipers</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valoisvipers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@sippindasyzurp Good post, it was nice to hear from a small market team&#039;s point of view as I totally agree that for parity to remain in the NHL the owners must get what they need to put the lights back on again.I&#039;m happy that you got your Jets back where they belong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sippindasyzurp Good post, it was nice to hear from a small market team&#8217;s point of view as I totally agree that for parity to remain in the NHL the owners must get what they need to put the lights back on again.I&#8217;m happy that you got your Jets back where they belong.</p>
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		<title>By: valoisvipers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valoisvipers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well at least 57% REVENUE parasites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least 57% REVENUE parasites.</p>
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		<title>By: valoisvipers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valoisvipers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@slickvb82 You make a lot of valid points but you are trying to educate the remedial class dropouts.Very hard to do but thanks for trying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@slickvb82 You make a lot of valid points but you are trying to educate the remedial class dropouts.Very hard to do but thanks for trying.</p>
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		<title>By: joeb2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joeb2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@chrisvegas,
You keep referencing the same blog post that is wrong. Here is his logic:
&quot;For instance, last year, the Colorado Avalanche reported $7M more in gate receipts than the Florida Panthers, despite the Panthers drawing 1,100 more fans per game and having a higher average ticket price.&quot;
He didnt even bother to look at the fact that the average ticket prices did not include premium seats or luxury suites which completely change the landscape of ticket revenue. The article has some good points, but it does nothing to discredit Forbes, but certainly does show his sloppy research. Is Forbes 100% correct - I doubt it, but until I see something better, or something that would prove them wrong, I will trust their number!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chrisvegas,<br />
You keep referencing the same blog post that is wrong. Here is his logic:<br />
&#8220;For instance, last year, the Colorado Avalanche reported $7M more in gate receipts than the Florida Panthers, despite the Panthers drawing 1,100 more fans per game and having a higher average ticket price.&#8221;<br />
He didnt even bother to look at the fact that the average ticket prices did not include premium seats or luxury suites which completely change the landscape of ticket revenue. The article has some good points, but it does nothing to discredit Forbes, but certainly does show his sloppy research. Is Forbes 100% correct &#8211; I doubt it, but until I see something better, or something that would prove them wrong, I will trust their number!</p>
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		<title>By: slickvb82</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slickvb82]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@joeb2 - thank you!! Exactly my point every time with this chris character. BOTH sides are at fault, its not just the owners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@joeb2 &#8211; thank you!! Exactly my point every time with this chris character. BOTH sides are at fault, its not just the owners.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisvegas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisvegas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[joeb2 read that article for the truth on the Forbes article. The rich are always losing money it is a wonder how any of them stay rich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joeb2 read that article for the truth on the Forbes article. The rich are always losing money it is a wonder how any of them stay rich.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisvegas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisvegas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2012/9/30/3427436/misconceptions]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2012/9/30/3427436/misconceptions" rel="nofollow">http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2012/9/30/3427436/misconceptions</a></p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah! I know, and you&#039;re right. Players will have to sign shorter contracts then, and start exploring alternatives. Like playing overseas. Bottom line they are the employee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah! I know, and you&#8217;re right. Players will have to sign shorter contracts then, and start exploring alternatives. Like playing overseas. Bottom line they are the employee.</p>
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		<title>By: cspsrbums</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cspsrbums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They show that they lose money Leonis moves his money around his business and and the Phone Booth to make it look likes the Caps lose money why do you think he wanted The wizards so so he can move money there. Another losing team. Caps hevea old out the last few years but reported a lose I doubt it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They show that they lose money Leonis moves his money around his business and and the Phone Booth to make it look likes the Caps lose money why do you think he wanted The wizards so so he can move money there. Another losing team. Caps hevea old out the last few years but reported a lose I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: joeb2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joeb2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The owners ARE losing money - an estimated 16-18 teams lose money per Forbes.  You may want to believe a blogger on sbnation with his questionable analysis that was pretty easily called out on the comments, but I will stick with Forbes for accuracy on the state of the NHL franchises.until proof appears otherwise. 

This problem is a shared problem with BOTH the owners and the players at fault. And the biggest loser is us fans!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The owners ARE losing money &#8211; an estimated 16-18 teams lose money per Forbes.  You may want to believe a blogger on sbnation with his questionable analysis that was pretty easily called out on the comments, but I will stick with Forbes for accuracy on the state of the NHL franchises.until proof appears otherwise. </p>
<p>This problem is a shared problem with BOTH the owners and the players at fault. And the biggest loser is us fans!</p>
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		<title>By: cspsrbums</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cspsrbums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Id4 
Yes players can negotiate their contracts just to have the owners lock them out again in 5-7 years so they can get out of paying their contract they agreed on]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Id4<br />
Yes players can negotiate their contracts just to have the owners lock them out again in 5-7 years so they can get out of paying their contract they agreed on</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These guys are owners, and highly competitive. They have a right to increase profits. Simple as that. The players get their chance to increase their take home pay by negotiating new contracts. they have a team of accountants and agents trying to get as much money as possible from the owners.  That&#039;s the nature of the business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys are owners, and highly competitive. They have a right to increase profits. Simple as that. The players get their chance to increase their take home pay by negotiating new contracts. they have a team of accountants and agents trying to get as much money as possible from the owners.  That&#8217;s the nature of the business.</p>
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		<title>By: sippindasyzurp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sippindasyzurp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in Winnipeg where the better the deal the owners get, the better it is for the Winnipeg Jets viability long term, plain and simple. The lower the salary cap ceiling, the more chance the Jets have at retaining there young players and potentially making some decent free agent signings.

So you all can go hating the owners but I am ok for the owners keeping them locked out for the season if it means a better deal for them in the long term, just based solely on the benefit for the team I cheer for.

Now feel free to rip me to shreds...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Winnipeg where the better the deal the owners get, the better it is for the Winnipeg Jets viability long term, plain and simple. The lower the salary cap ceiling, the more chance the Jets have at retaining there young players and potentially making some decent free agent signings.</p>
<p>So you all can go hating the owners but I am ok for the owners keeping them locked out for the season if it means a better deal for them in the long term, just based solely on the benefit for the team I cheer for.</p>
<p>Now feel free to rip me to shreds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cspsrbums</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cspsrbums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really think these teams lose money every year this is just a hobby to most owners . They move money to make it look like a loss, so yes the owners are parasites]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really think these teams lose money every year this is just a hobby to most owners . They move money to make it look like a loss, so yes the owners are parasites</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well! Lol! You can look it that way. But I&#039;m sure you know it&#039;s just about keeping some leverage. What little he has he wants to keep.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well! Lol! You can look it that way. But I&#8217;m sure you know it&#8217;s just about keeping some leverage. What little he has he wants to keep.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisvegas</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisvegas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Fehr is expection another lockout once the next CBA expires? lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Fehr is expection another lockout once the next CBA expires? lol</p>
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		<title>By: elvispocomo</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elvispocomo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[flyered up too please]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flyered up too please</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So....the players whose skill is 100% responsible for all HRR, are the parasites?  Not the owner, who only facilitate the exhibitions, after sucking tax payers dry and the pocking more money than the players everyone comes to see....right, it&#039;s the players that are parasites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;.the players whose skill is 100% responsible for all HRR, are the parasites?  Not the owner, who only facilitate the exhibitions, after sucking tax payers dry and the pocking more money than the players everyone comes to see&#8230;.right, it&#8217;s the players that are parasites.</p>
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		<title>By: jaybird22seven</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaybird22seven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Season is over !!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Season is over !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: id4joey</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[id4joey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we can expect the ownership to counter. Ther are at least 2 issues; there is a $100 million gap between the players and owners proposal with respect to players share, and free agency after 8 years instead of 7. 

There is no way the next CBA will expire in 5 years as proposed by the PA. The NHL was founded in 1917, so don&#039;t expect the NHL to agree on that. Smart move by Fehr though. The NHL will be looking to celebrate the 100th anniversary of its existence, avoid a lockout and certainly hoping to recover damages from this lockout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can expect the ownership to counter. Ther are at least 2 issues; there is a $100 million gap between the players and owners proposal with respect to players share, and free agency after 8 years instead of 7. </p>
<p>There is no way the next CBA will expire in 5 years as proposed by the PA. The NHL was founded in 1917, so don&#8217;t expect the NHL to agree on that. Smart move by Fehr though. The NHL will be looking to celebrate the 100th anniversary of its existence, avoid a lockout and certainly hoping to recover damages from this lockout.</p>
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		<title>By: capsrockva</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[capsrockva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t f***ing believe this crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please just get the dam thing done for the fans sake really]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t f***ing believe this crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please just get the dam thing done for the fans sake really</p>
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		<title>By: mississippimudslinger</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mississippimudslinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Drew  your life must  suck living in pennslytucky]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew  your life must  suck living in pennslytucky</p>
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		<title>By: flyeredup</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/21/fehr-no-reciprocity-from-nhl-after-nhlpa-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-113229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flyeredup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great News!  Shut down 2013, 2014. 2015 as well!  Seeeeee Ya!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great News!  Shut down 2013, 2014. 2015 as well!  Seeeeee Ya!</p>
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