Comments on: Goldwater still watching as Coyotes lease agreement goes before Glendale council

By: rainyday56

rainyday56 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:54:32 +0000

Plain and simple, if the arrangement is approved by council, this will arm Bettman with the ability to demand fiscal public funding from any other prospective jurisdiction that is seeking an NHL franchise/relocation.

Lord knows the league needs it, the financial sword of Damacles hangs over their heads if the insurance companies all of a sudden refuse to underwrite their player’s headaches.

Oh and before I forget:

Dec 3.

By: kalebreedy

kalebreedy — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:38:39 +0000

you may want to add this to the gift clause information. The AZ Supreme Court clarified it: “The Arizona Supreme Court set forth a two-prong test
for Gift Clause compliance in Wistuber v. Paradise Valley
Unified School District, 141 Ariz. 346, 687 P.2d 354
(1984). It held that an expenditure by a governmental
entity does not violate the Gift Clause if both (a) the
expenditure has a public purpose and (b) the consideration received by the governmental entity “is
not so inequitable and unreasonable that it amounts to
an abuse of discretion, thus providing a subsidy to the
private entity.” Id. at 349, 687 P.2d at 357 (internal
quotations and citations omitted).

this comes from http://www.squiresanders.com/files/Publication/6cf9da46-f13b-4b7a-b0a2-a6717f156792/Presentation/PublicationAttachment/1a1ee531-9962-451a-896f-66180da64fe5/Arizona_Supreme_Court_Clarifies_Gift_Clause_Requirements_for_Tax_Incentives_in_Economic_Development_Agreemen.pdf but you can check the case yourself, so it isn’t as simple as goldwater would like

By: blomfeld

blomfeld — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:09:37 +0000

Thanks Tats ! Yeah, there’s no question that this likely all boils down to good ol’ fashion greed in the end and nothing more. The good thing however is that if this is “premeditated” as we suspect, then there’s probably a “premeditated” end date planned as well ? … at least that’s what I’m hoping. We’ll see eh ?

By: tatdue

tatdue — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:46:14 +0000

On this I agree with you blom……Jamison will go away and the deal will fall apart once the CBA is worked out. He has never shown that he has any operating cash and can only afford the asking price with help……He’s just making it look good (the sale) so that Bettman can control Phoenix’s vote throughout this nonsense…..I’ve always agreed with you that this crap was premeditated by the owners but just never agreed as to why……For me the answer has always been simple, it’s just plain old fashioned greed and control…..

By: blomfeld

blomfeld — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:56:49 +0000

WOULD SOMEBODY JUST SHOOT THE DAMN THING !

No offense you Yotes fans, but having an NHL team there in Phoenix makes about as much sense as someone opening up a tanning salon in the Sahara Desert ! It’s ridiculous and it’s never going to work “profitably”. Anyway, I’m convinced that this Jamison character is just a “smoke screen” designed to camouflage this mess until the CBA business is concluded. After that, I can see the Coyotes finally being relocated by Bettman and crew “post haste”. I do empathize with the few fans there in Phoenix, with the emphasis being on “few”. I’ve worked and vacationed in Phoenix over the years and to this day, I’ve never “ever” met a live, breathing, fan of the Coyotes ? So when the team does go, it won’t be such a big deal. The “few” fans they have can simply switch over to being LA Kings fans. We’re their natural brothers and we’re only a short 6 hour drive away on the I-10. Welcome aboard friends !

By: ron05342

ron05342 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:36:49 +0000

I find it very interesting that the Coyotes have decided not to play in Phoenix/Glendale this season so far.

Oh, wait…