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Daly: “I’m frustrated”

Nov 19, 2012, 9:34 PM EDT

NHL exec doesn't believe NHLPA's made a full proposal.

It’s relatively promising that the NHL and NHLPA met Monday and expect to meet Tuesday, but NHL exec Bill Daly’s simple statement to The Canadian Press’ Chris Johnston said a lot.

“I’m frustrated,” Daly said.

On the other hand, Daly told ESPN’s Katie Strang that recent comments from players – such as Kris Versteeg referring to Daly and Gary Bettman as “cancers” – aren’t something they take personally.

In (potentially) more productive news, Johnston reports that the NHL asked the players for a formal proposal on Tuesday, going as far to say that the league doesn’t feel like they’ve seen a full one.

Daly provided a little more insight to NHL.com’s Dan Rosen.

“We think it’s all tied together and we’d like to hear it all together,” Daly said. “If their proposal continues to be a guaranteed amount of players’ share dollars we have told them that sitting here on Nov. 19, that’s not a proposal that is acceptable to us or would ever be acceptable to our owners right now.”

Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos wonders if the sides will even meet tomorrow after taking everything under consideration.

If these reactions – and all the possible cancellations – are any indication, Nov. 20 could be a key day.

  1. flyeredup - Nov 19, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    C’mon Man! Kill the next 3 seasons. Rot NHL, ROT!

  2. blomfeld - Nov 19, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    DARKNESS ? …

    I believe that this week is truly “make or break” time, as we’re now getting to the point of < 60 game schedule which nobody wants or will even tolerate. And losing the entire season will be the equivalent of a "full" nuclear exchange. Therefore "something" has to happen this week ?

  3. ccmeaston - Nov 19, 2012 at 9:59 PM

    Your frustrated? Seriously! What about the fans? Think about our frustration. Both sides should stop acting so selfish.

  4. LoyalFan34yrsGoKings - Nov 19, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    Frustrated? Join the crowd of us hockey FANS,!!

  5. LoyalFan34yrsGoKings - Nov 19, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Flyer up you should SHUT UP

  6. mississippimudslinger - Nov 19, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    2012-2013 NHL season
    nah nan nah nah
    nah nah nah nah
    hey hey hey
    GOODBYE!

  7. id4joey - Nov 19, 2012 at 11:11 PM

    Frustrated… Are you kidding us? Lets be serious. You guys are exactly where you wanted to be. Dictating the timeline and slowly squeezing the players. Don’t think we’re all stupid enough to drink your cool aid.

    • blomfeld - Nov 20, 2012 at 12:33 AM

      Agreed Joey .. but Bettman’s little caper can’t continue for much longer, lest the entire thing get’s damaged forever …

  8. oldcat157 - Nov 20, 2012 at 12:08 AM

    The only way to have a fair deal for both sides and ensure the future of the NHL is to cancel the season.

    That way ESPN can focus on the NFL and NBA seasons and keep the spot light off the NHL.

    Like I’ve been saying all along, dump the NHLPA and hire college hockey players and set the pay scale and do not let it get out of control!

    3-5 years from now, there will be new faces and stars as well as a new fan base. Gotta start from the ground and go up. The current structure is no good. It feels like they went on a lockout a couple years ago and are at it again?

    NHL needs to make a bold move, lose some money for couple of years, gain a new fan base, and become profitable.

    Just trying to keep it real brah.

    • blomfeld - Nov 20, 2012 at 12:37 AM

      I hear ya friend, but you simply can’t do that. Or should I say you could, but then you’re talking about throwing an entire generation out the window, which will take many years to replace.

    • woodstakes - Nov 20, 2012 at 1:27 AM

      Boy, thats a GREAT idea!! Yup,sign me up.. I want to go pay NHL prices to see NCAA hockey!! That sounds like a GREAT DEAL! Meanwhile all the big boys are over in Europe making just fine cash and we’re all watching them on replays on ESPN and Live Streams Online. IF the NHL actually did what you suggested… they would be folded in 3 yrs tops! Your talking about a whole generation of players. Not just 2-3 yrs of change. Plus, when all the really good talent comes up they aren’t going to go sign in the NHL when they are drafted… they’ll get drafted by the KHL and go make twice as much. Because once the “real players” go overseas for good… all the money; i.e. Sponsors, TV Deals etc will soon then follow.

      I get so sick of people on PHT actually suggesting that the NHL should use replacements… its a terrible idea has never worked anywhere else it was done. We’re not talking about factory workers here, were talking about the best of the best 1% in the WORLD who play the sport. NOBODY watches hockey simply because theres a shark, a wing, a ‘B’ etc on the jersey… they watch because of the ‘Name’ on the back… they go to see Crosby, Ovie, Kovy, Parise, Nash, Malkin, Stampkos etc etc etc. All of you seem to think that if they (NHL) did do what you suggest suddenly the NHL would…. what… lower ticket prices??? YEAH RIGHT!! They would be asking the same if not MORE in order to make up for the losses of the lost season and the fact that nobody goes to games! Also, do all of you who post these things mean to say that your willing to pay NHL prices to watch low/mid level NCAA hockey players just because they’re in a Wings, Canucks, Leafs, Ranger etc sweater?? (I say low/mid level because all the top players will follow suit with all the other top players right on over to the KHL/Europe)

    • tatdue - Nov 20, 2012 at 11:02 AM

      @oldcat157 – Your idea is just so F’ed in so many ways I don’t even know how to respond to it except maybe to ask if you might have forgot to take your meds today?

      Just trying to keep it real brah….

  9. rainyday56 - Nov 20, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    They’re just jerkin chains now.

    There is a deal in place,

    The puck drops Dec. 3

  10. paperlions - Nov 20, 2012 at 8:34 AM

    Here is what I have yet to see explained.

    The players gave up a lot after the last strike, the NHL essentially go everything it wanted. Since then revenue has skyrocketed, the league made $1B more last year than they did 6 years ago. So, how was 43% of $2.2B okay for the owners, but 43% of $3.2B suddenly isn’t….have non-player costs really increased faster than revenue? Seems highly unlikely.

    The league has it self to blame for its finances, they over-expanded with owners pocketing 100% of expansion fees, those teams continue to struggle financially and the owners want the players to bail them out for the 2nd time in a decade. I’d love to see the league fold, the arenas sold off to a new group of owners and a new league formed with guys in charge of the business that know what they are doing.

  11. tfaltin - Nov 20, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Anyone who has seen my comments in the past knows I’m more with the PA this time around than the NHL, which makes this hard to say but…Daly’s…right…in this instance. It’s a comprehensive situation, and should be treated as such. Both sides have significant leadership issues.

  12. steve7921 - Nov 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    “So, how was 43% of $2.2B okay for the owners, but 43% of $3.2B suddenly isn’t”….I wish someone would ask Bettman and Daly that question.

    I am sure that they couldn’t give you a definitive answer. I am not taking sides in this stupidness but Bettman and Daly should be fired because of their miscalculations of the last CBA that put the owners back at the bargaining table again. If the argument is that Bettman and Daly didn’t miscalculate and are just shaking the players down for money…than they should be fired just for that!

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