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Report: Flyers owner Snider pushing to solve labor strife

Nov 17, 2012, 1:01 PM EDT

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Is Ed Snider supportive of the league’s position regarding the lockout?

According to one report, not any more.

The Philadelphia Daily News claims Snider has emerged as a key figure in a significant attitude change among the NHL’s Board of Governors.

“If this is the deal we are going to get, what’s the point of dragging this out?” a source familiar with Snider’s thinking told the Daily News.

Reportedly, Snider wasn’t initially against the lockout, but now has “strong discontent” for Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs, who is believed to be one of the big supporters of NHL commissioner Gary Bettman’s position.

Oh, and here’s a twist — one of the franchises Snider might align with is Philly’s biggest rival, the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Here’s more, from the Daily News:

Despite their on-ice rivalry, there seems to be some thinking that the Flyers are interested in teaming up with the midmarket but high-revenue Pittsburgh Penguins to sway more governors toward a swift resolution. The Rangers are also viewed as anti-lockout.

At the very least, if the Flyers are changing their view, two important questions arise: Which other teams have shifted? Where is this whole thing heading?

While some of the smaller-market teams have been interested in a greater percentage of “hockey related revenue” to help get back in the black, there is a growing sentiment that any lingering effects from this lockout could wipe out a franchise in Columbus, Florida, Nashville or Tampa Bay entirely.

According to a source, the Flyers’ top-level executives presented their own proposal for the collective-bargaining agreement nearly 3 weeks ago. It remains unclear whether their proposal was the engine behind the league’s progress last week, when they strung together lengthy bargaining sessions in 7 out of 9 days.

This all comes after Snider publicly stated last week that he’s “awfully disappointed that we’re not playing hockey, but there’s not a thing I can do about it.”

It looks like that might have changed.

At the same time, we have to mention that TSN’s Darren Dreger was told Snider “remains strongly in Bettman’s corner.”

  1. somekat - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    This must be false. Because just last week, when he said he was doing everything he could, the idiot readers on this site talked about how bad of an owner we was, and how he was the cause of the problems, blah blah blah.

    When I pointed out that he is, and always has been one of the most player friendly owners, I got blasted

    Ed Snider = The best owner in hockey, period

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:31 PM

      What about John Spano, Boots Del Baggio, Jerry Reinsdorf, Ice Edge, Greg Jamison, Atlanta Spirit, Gary Bettman, Tom Hicks, Charles Wang (who at least pays his bills) or any of the other losers who Bettman has convinced to own bad teams? Good thing he kept Ballsillie out the last team this league needs is another really financially successful team…

    • mrchainbluelightning - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM

      OMG did Mike Illitch die?

      Snider can be as great as he wants to be and he will never be better than Mr. Illitch


  2. atwatercrushesokoye - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    I can imagine the folks at Rogers/Bell, MSG, the Canadiens owner etc (all teams making decent money) are also thinking the same thing, unfortunately for them Bettman changed the rules so he only needs 8 teams to agree with his position and he gets his way.

  3. oldcat157 - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Hopefully hockey gets cancelled this season. The fans, players, and owners need to learn a lesson.

    Everyone is in agreement that NFL, NBA, and NCAA football is much better entertainment and the only thing hockey does is take up air time on ESPN.

    From the fans, thank you NHL. Hope you all do some traveling with the families and get some well deserved rest and relaxation. See ya in 2014, brah.

    • zetaone - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:16 PM

      umad brah?

  4. alexb64 - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    It was no coincidence that negotiations were making genuine progress until Jeremy Jacobs returned to the table, which I assume is entirely why he made such a sudden return. Hopefully Snider, Burkle/Lemieux, Dolan, MLSE, Molson, etc can convince the remaining lockout supporters that they stand to lose way more than Jacobs’ quest for more money will win them. There’s a fair deal to be made, there’s no need to do possibly irreparable damage to the league because Jacobs wants to squeeze more blood out of the stone.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:36 PM

      The problem is that Jacobs and Bettman only need 6 other teams (I assume Bettman has Phoenix vote his way no matter what) to keep perpetuating what he wants, he had that put into his contract after the failed lockout of 94-95. So even if 24 teams desperately want to get back on the ice and will make a deal today, it can’t get done until they either find a 25th team or replace Bettman. In reality the little man has all of the cards when it comes to the owners.

  5. sportsfan69 - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Ed Snider,

    Are you the same guy that tried bully Shea Weber away from the Nashville Predators? Now, you’re the reason why we’re in this stupid mess. Where’s your integrity or do you need have any at all? Typical billionaire who lives by a different set of rules. ME, ME…….

    The NHLPA shouldn’t be happy either. You could lose over 120 player jobs with the compilation of Columbus, Florida, Nashville and Tampa Bay.

    Also, consider Phoenix, New Jersey, Edmonton, and Winnipeg after hockey is no longer financially viable in those markets too.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:53 PM

      Edmonton was 5th out of all NHL teams (ahead of Pittsburgh, Boston, Detroit etc) in profit in 2010-11. Winnipeg went from losing money in Atlanta to making it in Winnipeg. Those teams have full arenas every night and good local TV deals, salaries won’t kill those franchises, the Canadian dollar will. Its no coincidence that when Winnipeg moved and Edmonton was struggling the most the CDN $ was worth below $0.75 American, now it’s around par, as long as it stays somewhat competitive those teams will be fine.

      • therealjr - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:30 PM

        But the Canadian Ballet was so much better at 75 cents on the dollar.

    • liamj55 - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      Bye bye Nashville, Florida, Phoenix maybe NJ. Hello Seattle and maybe Ontario. Everyone knows this is the way to go. These markets cannot support the game so don’t have the game in that market. Once this lockout is over they should award the Flyers Shea Weber anyways. Everyone already hates him so he might as well orange and black. It is his birth rite.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 17, 2012 at 4:47 PM

      sportsfan69, you are one funny fellow. The nashville predators are one of the teams that has us in this mess, not Ed Snider. Maybe they should have let Snider bully Weber away from them because nashville signed him to a contract they can’t afford and now do not want to pay.

  6. mrchainbluelightning - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    I guess there is a single thing you can do huh Ed?

  7. chrisk61 - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    i blaster snider last wk and stand behind it. for context i am flyers season ticket holder for nearly 20 yrs. the board of gov’s tells bettman what to do, not the other way around. anyone who thinks the commissioner in any pro league controls the owners is naive. the commissioner is the messenger of the owners’ msg; he doesn’t craft the owners’ message. snider is a weasel. he was the source of the problem, as a hardliner, and now he wants to be viewed as the savior. it is BS. fact of the matter is nhl is starting to worry about lost revenue and negative public/fan sentiment. put another way, donald fehr is winning. he is playing a waiting game and the owners are starting to get nervous and impatient. also comcast/nbc (remember comcast-spectacor now owns flyers) may be telling snider to intervene and get something done. to position snider as a savior is laughable and naive. believe nothing you read. it is all spun to someone’s benefit.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:04 PM

      There’s a reason Bettman had it put in his contract that he needs 8 of 30 teams to agree with him in order to get his way, he was mad after 1994-95 because he felt some owners went behind his back. Google it, Bettman speaks for the BOG but he’s made it ironclad that he can be the voice of the minority.

  8. capsfan19 - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    This goes out to all those morons who take sides with the pro-lockout owners… There is discontent amongst their ranks, just screams mutiny on the S.S. Bettman

  9. pastabelly - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    Great, that’s what it takes. In the NFL it was Bob Kraft. Snider, do it. You’re the man.

  10. mississippimudslinger - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Hey Ed since you’re in a pushing mood, why dont you PUSH that clown of a goaltender you signed for 8 years out a window !

  11. sportsfan69 - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Hey Big Ed or should you be called Mr. Ed – from the television show.

    Let Gary Bettman do his job.

  12. jimw81 - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    key sentence of the story: “That all has changed. On Friday, multiple sources indicated Snider’s “strong discontent” for Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs, a big-market owner who has been one of the lockout’s ringleaders.”

    This entire lockout has been run by bettman, daily and jacobs the entire time with their own conceived agenda . What happens during lockout with conceived agenda, mutiny, something the owners are officially have on their hands.

    • blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:32 PM

      “This entire lockout has been run by bettman, daily and jacobs the entire time with their own conceived agenda” …

      Or in other words, a Von Schlieffen Plan !

      Yes Jimw81, that is “precisely” what I’ve been saying all along ! This is indeed a “preconceived” plan being driven by Bettman “in concert” with several key power owners. The elimination of October and November from the schedule was obviously one goal, which they’ve now achieved. A second goal is likely to strike a new CBA which will equate to nothing short of a “diktat” as far as the players are concerned. On that score, it’s probable that they’ve run into some unexpected headwinds, though I do see them prevailing nonetheless. And there are likely some other goals which Bettman and company are seeking to attain, which only in time will become apparent for all to see. In the meantime however, I suspect that Snider’s latest remarks above are nothing more than semantics, setting the stage for a possible “magical” breakthrough as early as this coming week. We’ll see eh ? :)

  13. thedavesiknowiknow - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM

  14. cspsrbums - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Where is Id4Joey the owners sound a little upset I see a collapse amongst them

  15. id4joey - Nov 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    cspsrbums, a double collapse. Best scenario possible for a resolution to this conflict.

  16. kilejo - Nov 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    I say you scrap this season, contract the small market teams (Pho, Nash, Fla, TB, NJ, Columbus) and start over next year. The leaugue can redraft 10 unprotected players. The guys that fall off because they were not redarfted probably shouldn’t be in the NHL anyway. The league would be great again. ,,,and contract the commissioner too. Hockey as great a sport as it is is not really a big 4 sport in the States. Be realistic, get rid of the bottom feeders, and move on to a better game. Teams like NY, Phi, Mon, Chi, Det and Van should not have to suffer for the crap they bought in within the last 25 years.

  17. rainyday56 - Nov 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    Dec. 3

  18. grudenthediva - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    I love the people still saying Tampa Bay will be one of the first teams to get axed. I get it, you Toronto and Philly lovers would love to poach Stamkos and seem to think it’s an entitlement, but it’s just not going to happen. Top of the line arena, great owner, strong management and a solid team. And yes, it’s been eight years, but they’ve tasted the silver this century, unlike your clubs.

    Sorry bout it. Not going to happen. Take the Panthers, sure, but this perpetual obsession with axing the Lightning is ludicrous.

  19. buffalomafia - Nov 19, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Philly wont win squat unless they get a goalie!

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