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NHLPA wants to resume CBA negotiations next week

Nov 16, 2012, 11:02 PM EDT

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NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr and NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly talked briefly today, but they didn’t schedule a new meeting. All the same, the union hopes to resume negotiations next week, according to RDS’ Renaud Lavoie.

That’s in contrast to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman recently proposed two-week moratorium on CBA talks.

If the NHLPA gets its way and talks resume soon, there will still be a slim chance for a Dec. 1 season opener. The next round of cancelations aren’t expected until mid-week. At the same time, the two sides might still have a massive gap to close.

Based on the NHL’s charts, the latest NHLPA proposal would potentially provided the players with over $1 billion more than a 50/50 split over five seasons.

The main reason for that is because the union is seeking a guaranteed player share for 2012-13 that doesn’t factor in the lockout. For now, the union wants to focus on the overall structure of the deal before tackling the issue of revenues lost due to the lockout.

  1. antkowiak666 - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM


  2. id4joey - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    And, yes, here we go
    id4joey | Nov 16, 2012, 6:45 PM EST
    The players will be crawling back very very soon, and will give give and give back to the owners. It Is the law of the jungle, and the lions/owners will prevail. The players lost all their leverage on Sept 15. These guys make peanuts during the playoffs, and therefore would have gone on strike immediately when the season would have ended. So, stop with the notion that the players were ready to play on the old CBA. The leverage has always been on the owners side.

  3. stain67 - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    I realize there are a lot of people backing the players, I too think they should get paid….however they are going to have to concede. It is obvious the owners are not giving in.
    The players lost a whole season in 04-05 because they didnt want a cap. When they finally gave in, they found out the cap is not that bad. Players have been making more money than ever.
    The same thing is going to happen with this CBA. These players are going to make millions and if a lot of cases tens of millions over their short careers. Its getting harder for me to sympathize with these guys. Sign the deal at the 50/50, take the make whole the owners are offering and play hockey. Its better than working in an office for 40-50 hrs a week for 40+years.

    • stakex - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:59 AM

      So true, and going to your last point let me give a touch of perspective:

      An NHL player with a standard entry level deal ($800k) will make as much money in one year as an average American makes ($46,326) in 17 years. So remember that next time any of you actually think about feeling sorry for any of the players. You’re not watching hockey because guys who make AT LEAST more money in one year then most people make in 20 years don’t want to take a 13% pay cut.

      Of course with Fehr at the helm, I don’t see the players giving in any time soon.

      • williplett - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:04 AM

        The owners are asking players to take pay cuts after a few years of record revenues. It seems obvious that something is wrong when there have been three lockouts in less than twenty years and nothing really changes. The owners and the commish have seemed unwilling to consider other long term fixes-greater revenue sharing, contraction and franchise relocation-to go along with salary rollbacks.

        BTW, Gary makes about $8 million a year now without ever risking his life or health on the ice like the players who actually sell tickets do. How many years does the average American have to work to make as much as the guy who has been the one constant in the last three NHL work stoppages?

      • kyzslew77 - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:05 AM

        That’s hilarious.


        Go read a book.

  4. bjbeliever - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:52 PM

    I know I’d love to strike for 3 months and then get back pay – who are these people???

    • stakex - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:06 AM

      Well this isn’t a strike, its a lockout… which is pretty much the reverse of a strike. Still though, the players will not and should not be paid in full for the season. Both sides are to blame for the lockout, and both sides should pay.

  5. stain67 - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    Ask the Hostess workers union if they would like a do-over?
    They could have taken the concessions and be at work next week.

    • ron05342 - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:41 AM

      Imagine being a newly-laid-off Hostess worker who is an avid hockey fan?

      Black Friday came a week early for them.

  6. blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:22 AM


    Only three days ago, I had resigned myself to the fact that “all” was lost and that it was time for me to board the “doom and gloom” train with everybody else. Well I did board that train friends and to be quite frank with you, it made me sick to my stomach ! Now my original thesis calling for a “magical” breakthrough during the week of Nov 5-10 “plus or minus” 3 x days did prove to be invalid, as did my hope for common sense to prevail. Well tonight friends, I’ve just come to the realization that perhaps “all” isn’t lost after all and that we’re now possibly closer than ever to a conclusion of this madness ? My original postulation was made two months ago on September 16th, only 24 hours after the lockout began. So just like a battleship upon entering an engagement, who’s opening salvo lands “close” from a distant range, who’s to say that I didn’t have these bastards pegged from day one, albeit off by a few days ? My thinking during the past 24 hours or so, is that the excellent commenter called “Id4joey” may have had this right all along, by calling for an agreement to be reached by the US Thanksgiving and play to then commence by the start of December ? It makes sense when you think about it, no two ways about that … and something is definitely afoot here, don’t you agree ? :)


    GO “END OF LOCKOUT” !!!!

    • williplett - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:48 AM

      “…who’s to say that I didn’t have these bastards pegged from day one, albeit off by a few days ?”

      You did. And all the other people who brought up the fact that you were wrong.

      • blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:06 PM

    • mississippimudslinger - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:52 AM

      Blomfeld, I’m curious…… with you being as grotesquely overweight and obese as you most likely are, do you ever find yourself getting short of breath as you slobber all over and pound the living daylights out of your poor little keyboard when you’re typing all your ignorant drivel?

      • blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    • daburghdabest - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:54 AM

      Blomfield you have a family reunion in a bowl every time you take a crap.

      • blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    • id4joey - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM

      Hey! blomfeld, stick around bro. We’re still not out of it. The a holes around here don’t know better than us. The season is not lost until it’s cancelled. F everybody here who thinks otherwise.

      • blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:24 PM

        Id4joey – Thank you friend. I tried being negative like everyone else here by throwing in the towel on the season and all. But after 72 hours, I realized that “negativity” just isn’t for me ! And neither is this business of insulting fellow commenters, like the filthy vermin “mudslinger & daburghdabest” are apt to do. The bottom line Joey is that I think we were both right from day one. There will be a season and it will start in all likelihood by early December, just as you had originally postulated ! :)

  7. blkhwk21 - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Who Cares!! Call it a year, figure it out in the offseason

  8. mississippimudslinger - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:02 AM

    This just in….. Bryzgalov still sucks!!!!

    • blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM

  9. stakex - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:11 AM

    This PR crap from the players about wanting to keep “negotiating” needs to stop.

    When all you want to do is meet with the other side and keep repeating the same demands over and over again… you’re not negotiating. Look at last week. The players were saying for weeks that they were the ones wanting to talk and blah blah blah. Once they finally met with the owners, what did they actually end up giving in on? Nothing at all. That just proves they really don’t want to talk, they want to demand.

    So don’t blame the owners for not wanting to talk. Idiot fans with only half a brain see an article like this and say “Gee, if only the owenrs wanted to talk”. However talking between the two sides is only a good idea if one side is ready to change its position. If no one is willing to budge, its not a good for both sides to get together… because you just end up with a short, hostile meeting like we saw at the end of last week.

  10. mississippimudslinger - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    The Flyers havent won a Stanley Cup since Leisure Suits we’re cool!

    • blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:27 PM

  11. icrew29 - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM

    Nothing is going to get done with Bettman and Fehr. Those two gentlemen need to go away and bring in a mediator. Use one player rep from each division and one owner from each division. Both sides are just throwing more money away by paying Bettman an Fehr who only care about winning so they can maintain there positions. When these two are not meeting, please tell me what are they doing. Hockey will not be played in the NHL this season.

  12. sportsfan69 - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Hey Blomfeld, you’re alive. Far out man! Awesome!

    • blomfeld - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM

      Sportsfan69 – Hello friend and thank you. Yes, I tried the “negative” approach and it just wasn’t for me. Just as this business of insulting fellow commenters isn’t for me either. Take it easy man, as something is definitely afoot now with this “fake” labor impasse.

      Earps = Blomfeld, Sportsfan, Id4Joey, Paledevil

      Clantons & McLaury’s = mudslinger, daburghdabest and a bunch of other scum

  13. canuck54143 - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    The NHLPA has to be the dumbest Labour group in all of sports. First they hire the guy that killed baseball America’s past time (By the way NFL thanks this guy, they are the top dog because of him). Then they watch two major sport’s strikes before them which resulted in players giving back to 50/50 splits, in return got both leagues to look into player safety more. The NHL needs a true 50/50 split to make the league work. The only way i can see both groups win is make it a 10 year deal like NFL did. Work first three years down to 50/50 split giving players what they want. In return the owners get to amnesty on play contract per year during first three years. (except contracts signed this summer). That makes it win win for both parties, and ultimately a win for fans with 10years of labour peace.

  14. oldcat157 - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Noooooooo! Don’t resume negotiations! At least think about the NFL fans and wait until after the Superbowl!

  15. sportsfan69 - Nov 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM


    Alright, I’ll chill out. Monday should be a big day.

  16. id4joey - Nov 18, 2012 at 11:55 AM


    Please note that someone has now begun posting here under the erroneous names of “blomfelb” and “Ib4joey” ! Of course these names are fake and they should in no way be confused with either “yours truly” or blomfeld. blomfeld already has a good handle on who’s behind this little caper. But for good measure, he has also asked his old friend “Stransky” to take a look into this (ie: Stransky is a physicist and an expert in forensic causation analysis) and he’s assured blomfeld that he’ll have the name of this imposter within 48 hours, with a margin for error of “plus or minus” 2.5 hours. Once this imposter has been identified, then suffice it to say that he/she will be “dealt with” quickly and ruthlessly.

    • williplett - Nov 22, 2012 at 3:05 AM

      This is a fine way to convince people that you guys are not the same person. Just saying…

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