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Report: If no deal in seven days, games to be canceled through December 15

Nov 14, 2012, 9:05 PM EDT

Gary Bettman AP

The NHL and NHLPA spent today not meeting about a new Collective Bargaining Agreement and now another deadline is on the horizon.

Chris Botta from Sports Business Journal reports that if a deal isn’t worked out in the next seven days, games through December 15 will be canceled. Botta adds that a “drop dead date” may come after that as the threat of wiping out the entire season might be the only thing to help the players and owners get things figured out.

Things ended on a poor note after Sunday’s talks concluded with a battle over contract rights becoming the latest roadblock to labor peace. Both NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly and NHLPA Executive Director Donald Fehr expressed frustrations in that meeting.

Meanwhile, NHLPA Special Counsel Steve Fehr says “when the moment is right, a deal will be done quickly.” That time doesn’t appear to be the present.

  1. jaybertx - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Good. Just put us out of our misery.

  2. mpg44 - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Could fehr and Bettman drop dead instead!!

  3. jimw81 - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    This goes to show you Bettman’s, Daily and Jacobs’s powertrip during this lockout but…

    i have been a loyal pa supporter, it’s time for NHLPA to make the move an concede on the contract issue. do what is best for the game and get this thing over with.

    • crosberries - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:55 PM

      Dropping down to 50/50 doesn’t count for anything for the players? Tell me what the NHL has conceded to the players?

      • stakex - Nov 14, 2012 at 11:12 PM

        Why do the owners have to concede anything to the players? They already pay them millions of dollars to play a game…

        Not to mention the players take absolutely no risk in the business, and if the league/team loses money the players still get paid in full. So when CBA negotiations come along, they are the ones that have to take the short end of the stick. They don’t take that short end of the stick at any other time (like some owners do when their teams lose money). Thats how it is. Can you tell me the last time owners buckled to the players in a labor dispute in any sport? I sure can’t think of any.

        Is that fair? Debatable, but it is the reality of the business world.

      • whateveryousaydude - Nov 15, 2012 at 11:13 AM

        i am still supporter of the loyal players association. i’m guessing not many of us would watch NHL without the players on the ice…oh wait, there would be no game. or at least not a game with players who have the skills of the NHL.

        if the owners are dumb enough to sign contracts that they later feel cost them too much, too bad. why did they agree to pay a player millions.

        and if the owners and league are dumb enough to put teams in cities that cannot afford to support an NHL team, why is that the players fault?

        bad management decisions are not the workers/players fault.

  4. flyeredup - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    Great News! I am hoping for 3 seasons to be cancelled. Rot and die NHL! Keep bickering!

    • stakex - Nov 14, 2012 at 11:17 PM

      I guess if Ilya Bryzgalov was my favorite teams goalie, I wouldn’t be eager to see hockey start any time soon either.

  5. LoyalFan34yrsGoKings - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM

    Flyeredup, how about shutup

  6. sidneydeane35 - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    Here we go same story once again. Owners trying to make up for the stupid 10 yr deals they signed before the strike. Only to make the same stupid mistakes all over again, after the lock out is over. Really getting tired of the same old song. At this point why not give us all a brake and just call the season. Just don’t expect us to listen to your whining over lost revenue when you do come back.

  7. jaybird22seven - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:42 PM

    Cancel the season !!! We can move on and forget about spending our time and money on this league !!!!

    • mountainmantride - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:50 PM

      Agree!

  8. icelovinbrotha215 - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:42 PM

    4 months of regular season hockey? Interesting. Sprints are always more entertaining. The problem is that how many people will be watching? I will be but with this economy and NHL taking the cake as a bottom feeder, the masses will find something better to do.

  9. jimw81 - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:49 PM

    i think nhl made this move because tomorrow players will lose their 3rd pay check plus they are still trying to cancel Christmas.

  10. mountainmantride - Nov 14, 2012 at 9:55 PM

    NHL is flirting with disaster. Every day more and more fans are leaving the sport. And rightly so (heck only 8 comments on this post. Eight? That’s it, eight people are engaged in this discussion). The NHL makes me laugh. That said, those who are fans out there will get the shaft in this deal again but this time they seem to be waking up to the idea that ‘maybe I won’t spend my money with these bozos anymore.’ The next big shoe (skate) to drop will be when we start hearing that sponsors are moving their money away from hockey, and not coming back, because a) the sponsors can’t count on this sport anymore and b) fans are moving elsewhere. The sponsor money will follow the fans.

  11. martysbetter - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    Just cancel the season already, enough with the theatrics.

  12. bricktop02 - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    It would be nice if the players could tell both sides to pound sand and go to hell and start their own league.

  13. mississippimudslinger - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    Glad to see most of the sensible posters on this topic here are in favor of cancelling this Gong Show Sport for the rest of the season … it’s become an embarrassment

  14. Stiller43 - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Can they fire fehr and daly, please?

  15. jimw81 - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    For people jumping off the CBA roller coaster, National cancel your season Tickets day is DEC 1st in NHL.

  16. sadhockeyfan - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    Greed at its worst! F&@k them all!

  17. claysbar - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    As like most of us, I love the game, would sell my kidneys to have the talent they have to play it. Every day makes it harder to care. I live about 4 hours away from “my” team. I do my best to get out there as often as I can. I scrimp, I save, I do without. I used to side with the owners, I’m traditionally against unions, just on philosophical sides. At this point though, it’s irrelavant. All parties have shown their true skins and that is enough for me.

  18. csilojohnson - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    I would like to see an article about NBC’s take on all this. They just signed a big TV deal with the NHL. Where is the pressure from them to get this deal done? I guess I can assume NBC still gets paid somehow?

    • cbab03 - Nov 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM

      Comcast which owns NBC also own’s the Flyers… It is believed the deal was written as is so the NHL had a Lockout Fund, from one of their sports top owners basically.
      These are the same people who put a ridiculous 10 year offer sheet in front of Shea Weber only days before the lockout…

      It’s bad, and it’s only gonna get worse from here on out…

  19. semin28 - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    Just cancel the whole season already

  20. vanchuk - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    NBC only gets paid by their sponsors…however, the NHL still gets paid by NBC this year.

  21. vanchuk - Nov 14, 2012 at 10:50 PM

    Sorry, accidentally hit post…

    If the season is lost, NBC gets a “free season” of programming from the NHL at the end of the contract. At least that’s what I’ve heard on sports radio from people who apparently know what they’re talking about. Though I often question their knowledge

  22. dannythebisforbeast - Nov 14, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    That’s ok the way the NHL is going this will be their last paying TV contract so the last year free would just be like the first year of their bargain basement TV deal.

    Can someone answer this. Wasn’t last years ratings (playoffs,winter classic etc) te highest EVER??

    If that’s the case and they blow this season I bet it takes until the next CBA before ratings approach what they recently were.

    My opinion has always been that NHL was content with a ballpark 60 game schedule for this season. So they were in no rush to negotiate and also thought once they started players would fall right in line and sign a deal.

    I think they grossly misjudged and never considered they would have to give on almost any points other than increasing from the absurd 43%(?) from their original offer.

    fifty games or none at this point. Crazy thing is last year was probably first time I watched almost every playoff game of every team,even after my team was out.
    Now I almost don’t give a sh!t, because of their arrogance and their complete disrespect of the fans

  23. stakex - Nov 14, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Want to see whos bluffing? Wait till its time to cancel the season.

    I would bet big money that the players fold, and sign on the dotted line in short order at that point. There is simply nothing to gain for the vast majority of the players by losing the whole season. Not to mention if the season is lost, the owners REALLY aren’t going to budge… in fact the owners bottom offer might get even worse.

  24. Stiller43 - Nov 15, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    Stakex,

    Who do you think makes the nhl, and all its owners the money?

    Nobody buys a ticket to see an owner…own. Or buys the owners jersey. The PLAYERS bring in the money. Thats why the owners should concede something, to match the players already going down from 57 to 50%

    • whateveryousaydude - Nov 15, 2012 at 11:17 AM

      AGREED! i am still supporter of the loyal players association. i’m guessing not many of us would watch NHL without the players on the ice…oh wait, there would be no game. or at least not a game with players who have the skills of the NHL.

      if the owners are dumb enough to sign contracts that they later feel cost them too much, too bad. why did they agree to pay a player millions.

      and if the owners and league are dumb enough to put teams in cities that cannot afford to support an NHL team, why is that the players fault?

      bad management decisions are not the workers/players fault.

  25. db105 - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    Cancel the season please. I want to get a full refund on my season tix.

  26. id4joey - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:15 AM

    Just saying,mpg1219……..

    id4joey | Nov 10, 2012, 9:28 AM EST
    The league is dictating the timeline of this labor dispute, which is their right since they are the employers. The league has already cancelled all games until the end of November. So, the earliest the season can start is Dec 1st, which would come at least 1 week after the start of a shortened training camp. In essence the NHL has given themselves and the PA until Nov 20 to find a compromise to start on Dec 1st. I’m no genius, but I’m willing to bet the NHL will NOT cancel the whole month of Dec if there is no agreement by Nov 20. They will probably cancel games on a weekly or bi- weekly basis to slowly put pressure on the players. Now, assuming they start sometime in January, this would mean the owners would have saved a boat load of money by not having a full training camp, and no hockey operations expenses throughout the slow month of November.

  27. kodyknight2821 - Nov 15, 2012 at 7:11 AM

    Sigh… Look at what this lockout has done to us fans. I read 1/2 of these comments and most are arguing and bickering. WHY WHY WHY.

  28. bleedingteal4life - Nov 15, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Stakex, everytime the players step out on the ice they are taking a risk. Everytime they get on a bus, or a PLANE there is a risk. Owners gave out these contacts knowing they were not going to honor them. Everyone needs to give a little. Think of the players at the bottom of the barrel who aren’t making big salaries. They risk most of all. They need to live off this money for the rest of their lives.

  29. eyeh8goodell - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    C’mon NHL, cancel those games. You know you want to.

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