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Steve Fehr: “When the moment is right, a deal will be done very quickly”

Nov 12, 2012, 3:43 PM EDT

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NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr says he and NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly share something in common — they know what the finish line looks like.

Now they just need to figure out a way to get there.

“One thing Bill Daly and I agree on,” Fehr said while speaking at Toronto’s Prime Time Sports Management Conference. “When the moment is right, a deal will be done very quickly.”

According to TSN, Fehr told conference attendees there are three major hurdles in preventing a new CBA from being completed: splitting money, player contract rules and which side pays for damage caused by the lockout.

Fehr also said the discussion of involving a mediator has been tabled — something the NHLPA is interested in — but said his impression is that the NHL “isn’t terribly interested it.”


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  1. davebabychreturns - Nov 12, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    Hah – so basically how to split up the money, what types of contracts will be allowable and who takes the blame for the lockout (and assumes the lion’s share of the financial losses) are all that’s left?

    That means they’ve sorted out revenue sharing and what else, exactly? How to split the bill for lunch?

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - Nov 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM

      They can’t agree on how to split 3.5 billion, how are they going to agree on splitting a lunch tab?

      • blomfeld - Nov 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM

        Despite the fact that your views are typical of the borgeoise “apathy and negativity” which abounds here at PHT, I do readily acknowledge you two for being posters of “decency” which you both are … :)

        Nonetheless, something is about to happen !

        Back on Sept 16th I postulated that a “magical” agreement would occur during the week of November 5-10 with a margin for error of “plus or minus” 3 x days. That equates to a time period extending from Nov 2 to Nov 13. And since today is only Nov 12th, I continue to have “every” confidence that my original calculations were correct ! Never forget the saying that “night is darkest just before dawn”. All it’s going to take, just as Fehr is alluding to here, is a simple phone call from one party to the other saying “okay man, let’s do it” … and then we’ll have a season under way within a matter of days ! :)

        Good times are just around the corner now … I can feel it in my bones man ! :)

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - Nov 19, 2012 at 1:52 AM

        Your delusional

  2. coreydm80 - Nov 12, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    Roller coaster

  3. lostpuppysyndrome - Nov 12, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    “Which side pays for damage caused by the lockout”? Boy, if we haven’t seen finger pointing and PR spin yet, we will shortly. How can you even quantify or evaluate that? I didn’t even realize this was a point of debate.

    • davebabychreturns - Nov 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM

      Well, if the NHLPA is negotiating based on a specific dollar amount for this season (as opposed to a certain percentage of HRR which can of course fluctuate) then any games lost means that the % they are asking for increases.

      If they’re asking for $1.87b – which is 57% of $3.2b – in the first year and 16 games are cancelled, all of a sudden that $1.87b figure might turn out to be more like 73% of HRR for the year.. a number the owners would never accept.

      Basically each side can probably agree to what HRR “should have been” for this year fairly easily.. the difference between that and where it ends up will have to be accounted for by sacrifices from each side.

      My hope is that this is the last part of the negotiation and whoever “wins” the negotiation for the split of HRR over the course of the CBA accepts a marginal victory on this front (ie. if the players get a 54/46 split for this year then they agree eat a 40/60 split of any losses from projected HRR rather than trying to force it entirely on ownership).

      That being said each side has reason to believe the other has been obstinate and uncooperative, and if anger drives this part of the negotiation it could be a major problem.

    • jernster21 - Nov 12, 2012 at 4:05 PM

      If they haven’t already established the fact that there will be no winner at the end of this lockout then they might as well shut down the league for good.

  4. eyeh8goodell - Nov 12, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    I feel like both Donald and Bettman need to stay away from the table. Things seem to go more smoothly when Steve and Daly have the talks.

    • dprouse - Nov 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM

      It’s easy, though, for the #2 guys to make nice. The top guys have to answer to their respective memberships when this is all over, particularly if some powerful factions decide they don’t like the deal you made. This is a little bit like backup goalies and backup quarterbacks always being very popular with the fans, until such time as they become the starter…

  5. hanisflyingsolo - Nov 12, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    NHLPA can’t seriously be trying to get paid in full for this year. The owners are not getting 82 games of revenue therefore players can’t get 82 games of pay checks. If I were a player I would realize there is no way I would get full value this year and I’d be on the phone with Herr Fehr telling him to get a deal done cuz every game lost is money I lose. If I’m an owner I’m giving Fehr the finger if he demands 82 games of paychecks.

  6. stakex - Nov 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    The fact that the players expect the owners to pay them in full for the season is a joke. If the season is 60 games, you get paid for 60 games… not 82. If thats a main sticking point, this is going to take a long time.

  7. kgg6 - Nov 12, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    I’m not a big hockey fan. I’m a sports management student so I’m following this lockout as a student only. But honestly the best thing for the NHL to do is to fold the entire league. There are too many huge issues that both sides will not let go and they are not looking at it from hockey fans stand because they don’t care about the fans. just fold the league already and let a new one come up. The NHL is a joke from an administration point of view.

    • tfaltin - Nov 12, 2012 at 6:03 PM

      Remind me not to hire you at ANY point if there is ANY chance of ANY adversity within the company I work for.

    • Human Cannonball - Nov 12, 2012 at 6:35 PM

      What about the hundreds of millions that owners paid for their franchises? Chalk that up to experience, I guess. Better luck next time. There’s no commodity to be found in a one-hundred-year-old major sports league, huh?

      Here’s hoping your sports management classes fall somewhere between home economics and shop class, because if you’re in college and can’t exercise better critical thinking, we’re all screwed.

    • valoisvipers - Nov 13, 2012 at 10:03 AM

      Get out of school now kid, as you are not getting any benifit from it.Ask student loans for a brain.

  8. coreydm80 - Nov 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Kgg6… That’s the best way to handle this?

  9. nothanksimdriving123 - Nov 12, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    “When the moment is right”? Well, there is a solar eclipse this week. I think that would make a nice moment. What better moment could they want?

    • mrwings787 - Nov 13, 2012 at 11:56 AM

      sounds like an erectile disfunction commercial

  10. tackledummy1505 - Nov 12, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    I agree with the guy saying fold the league. We’re going to be right back at this in 5 years and if we have the same douches at the table, you better believe that we’ll be in trouble again. This is pathetic, especially when the players made out huge in the last deal. That deal got done and so far we’ve had 3-4 teams either being put up for sale or in trouble of collapsing. This isn’t good business people and if the players are so worried about their money, they should be looking at their league. No owner will step foot in certain teams and buy them. That means less revenue and less money to go around anyway. So the NHL should be prepared to cut a couple teams from the league, because they won’t make the bottom line, the league’s amount of players will shorten, so guys who depend on the league to be 4th liners won’t make $500,000 to $800,000 a year, they’ll only make like $35,000 to $50,000 a year if they’re lucky. The players are killing this league and soon there will only be a few places to play hockey and less players in it. So go ahead NHLPA go f the role-player guys job, what do you care your getting your money. Fehr brothers = death to hockey. Both should be shot on scene if you could get away with it.

  11. LoyalFan34yrsGoKings - Nov 12, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Maybe they are waiting to see if the Mayans were right. 12/21/2012. Seriously

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