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NHL countered union’s proposals

Nov 8, 2012, 11:02 PM EDT

Gary Bettman, Donald Fehr Getty Images

The NHLPA came to the league with two offers on Wednesday. One dealt with revenue sharing and the other tackled the players’ share of revenue and the “make whole” provision.

It now looks like the NHL presented the union with a counter-proposal Thursday, according to several prominent reporters, including TSN’s Aaron Ward.

The specifics of the NHL’s latest offer are scarce, but ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun reported that the NHL is now willing to increase its commitment to revenue sharing beyond the roughly $200 million that it offered a month ago. The NHL also reportedly made an offer on “systemic player contract issues.”

The Canadian Press’ Chris Johnston speculated that the union is likely to come to Friday’s meeting with another counter offer.

Obviously, until the two sides can agree to a new CBA, anything can happen, but by the same token, as long as they’re exchanging ideas, there’s hope for the 2012-13 season.

Related:

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Bettman: “We have a lot of work to do and we’re working hard”

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Report: NHL memo Wednesday underscored importance of today’s meeting

  1. valoisvipers - Nov 8, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    Tough to get a deal struck when it is just the league making most of the concessions. Takes two to Tango.

    • mgp1219 - Nov 8, 2012 at 11:27 PM

      The league is making most of the concessions now because they were making most of the demands until now.

    • capesouth - Nov 8, 2012 at 11:39 PM

      The NHLPA going from 57% to 50% isn’t a concession..?

    • stratomaticfan - Nov 9, 2012 at 11:31 AM

      Um. League locked players out because the Owners were fiscally irresponsible. Players agreed to 50/50 going forward, as long as existing contracts are honored.

      The nitpicky contract limits, etc. can be worked out. If the Owners don’t honor their agreements, then their word is garbage and the players can’t trust them to negotiate at all.

      Unlike the last stoppage, this one is primarily on the Owners.

      • sunderlanding - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM

        First off the players have yet to agree to 50/50 going forward. They want to start at 53 and work down to 50/50 by year three. Secondly weren’t the players being irresponsible when they agreed to 100 million dollar contracts in markets they knew couldn’t afford it? It takes two signatures to make that contract legal, and the players are partly to blame for holding out until they got that 100 million. Are we really supposed to believe they had no idea this might be an issue later?

  2. jdrew506 - Nov 8, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    Yes there is also hope that butt-monkeys will come flying out of Bettman, Daly and Fehr to give them the same pain as they have given the fans

    • HawaiiHockey - Nov 9, 2012 at 12:49 AM

      Look- I want hockey as much as you do. But this whole chorus of complaints about the suffering of the fans is a total joke. If you’ve invested a bunch of money into seats and you don’t eventually get your money back for missed games, then OK, I’ll hear your complaints out. But to sit there and suggest that you’ve been in pain over not having hockey is a bit ridiculous. It’s called entertainment.

      • sunderlanding - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:32 PM

        Some people don’t have much to look forward to. It’s entertainment that makes life worth living, so when you don’t have it life can be painful. Why are depressed people depressed? Usually because they aren’t having any fun. When you work your crappy job and all you have to look forward to at the end of the day is watching your favourite hockey team, and you find out you won’t be able to because the two sides who make the game happen are arguing over who gets the extra millions it’s a bit painful.

  3. capsrockva - Nov 8, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    I don’t care what it takes, just get the dam thing done so WE THE FANS CAN WATCH THE GAME WE LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. fortwaynekomets - Nov 8, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    I am already over all this NHL bullcrap.

    I ordered my online subscription for the ECHL season! its awesome! any game, any time on demand OR live!!

    and I still got $2,406 left over to spend from my NHL ducks season tix!!!! Just go to America one sports dot com and ECHL pass is waiting for ya! you can buy single games, monthly, or season pass!!!

    Go Fort Wayne Komets!!!

  5. thedavesiknowiknow - Nov 8, 2012 at 11:55 PM

  6. drunknbflo - Nov 9, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    The owners should have to pay 100% of the contracts signed during the last cba. They are the ones who offered those contracts to the players.

    • bcjim - Nov 9, 2012 at 7:46 AM

      NOnsense. Everyone involved knew full well there was a looming renegotiation.

      In fact, in ANY given year, contracts may or may not be fully paid. Thats why they have escrow. Once HRR is determined escrow funds are either kept or returned. The players get a %. What their “contract” says is *never* necessarily what they get…unless revenue exactly matches projections.

      Get a clue.

  7. vanchuk - Nov 9, 2012 at 12:38 AM

    @capesouth

    Percent of revenue change cannot be considered a concession if the definition of revenue has changed drastically.

  8. sjsharks66 - Nov 9, 2012 at 1:27 AM

    Coming from the guy with the name hawaiihockey? Yeah, we love this sport. Wait months for it to come back. So yeah, we do have pain that it’s not starting.

  9. mississippimudslinger - Nov 9, 2012 at 2:53 AM

    I bet the players care and are thinking about EACH and VERY ONE OF YOU during all this … lol

    (well not really but …)

    • id4joey - Nov 9, 2012 at 8:44 AM

      missi, I propose we offer you a free PHT therapy session to help you reslolve your childhood issues. Are you in?

  10. buffalo65 - Nov 9, 2012 at 5:52 AM

    Do what you can, then let the players vote.

  11. irokkit - Nov 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM

    At least mudslinger.duuuuh didn’t comment this time.
    Uh,oh,wait………I hear stupidity…
    Yup! He posted.

  12. spochiefsfan - Nov 9, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    blomfield is still in the right…

    • blomfeld - Nov 9, 2012 at 2:21 PM

      Spochiefsfan – Thank you friend. Let’s just stay positive here and hope that they will resolve this thing in quick order. They better, because the general mood here at PHT has taken on a a very “belligerent and ugly” tone in recent days … and that’s a shame.

      Anyway, I bet a lot of the readers here weren’t aware that Spokane hosted the World’s Fair back in 1974, eh ? I love Washington state and I love making trips down there, which I do all the time. From the beautiful Palouse in your neck of the woods, to the Pacific shores at Long Beach, to my own home golf course in lil ol’ Custer just across the line … I always have fun whenever I visit your great state of Washington ! :)

  13. drunknbflo - Nov 9, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    If I was a player I would want all of the money my boss promised me in the contract that he signed off on.

    • bjbeliever - Nov 10, 2012 at 12:08 PM

      Ya but if you signed two contracts and one says you get a certain dollar amount, and the other says that dollar amount will go up or down depending on overall profit, would you throw a temper tantrum if it went down, but accept it if it went up? that would be acting like a child and in reality it would be that person who negotiated in bad faith

  14. bleedingteal4life - Nov 9, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Hawaiihockey, you should have your posting rights revoked!

  15. id4joey - Nov 10, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Sunderlanding, PHT is hardly the forum to provide misleading information about depression. If one is depressed because of the lockout then I suggest they see a therapist to get to the root cause of the problem. You can also search on google, or see Dr. Phil.

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