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	<title>Comments on: Roenick: No reason NHL/NHLPA can&#8217;t be close to a deal</title>
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		<title>By: scrouch</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Completely agree with Roenick (which is strange because I normally don&#039;t agree with him at all).  But in this case I can&#039;t see what&#039;s taking them so long either.  They aren&#039;t in disagreement over the whole economic system and aren&#039;t even disagreeing at where the revenue split should end up.  If there were major differences in those areas I could see this taking some time, but they&#039;ve effectively agreed to the system going forward.  The only difference is in how to get there and even in that area we&#039;re talking about what amounts to a few percent difference over a couple seasons.  It&#039;s a standoff in which they aren&#039;t actually in  much disagreement.  If the games that have already been cancelled aren&#039;t rescheduled, the players will have already lost more than they&#039;re fighting to keep.  Even with the negativity towards the league from a lot of fans they&#039;ve probably already hurt the league enough to lose that money from lower revenue even if it was a full season.  

When they&#039;re down to fighting over a few hundred million (which is all it would be if revenue growth was even modest), it doesn&#039;t take long for that to just disappear.  The best deal the players can likely get is to forget about the full contracts and go to probably 53%, 51%, 50% over the next few years.  With growth that would be maybe a 7% hit on their salaries next season and little to no hit in the seasons after that.  If they lose a full season or even half a season to hold out for that deal, they will have already lost far more than that.  At some point they need to be practical about this.  They aren&#039;t fighting for future players in this case because they&#039;re going to a 50/50 split within a few seasons either way so future players will be operating at 50/50.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree with Roenick (which is strange because I normally don&#8217;t agree with him at all).  But in this case I can&#8217;t see what&#8217;s taking them so long either.  They aren&#8217;t in disagreement over the whole economic system and aren&#8217;t even disagreeing at where the revenue split should end up.  If there were major differences in those areas I could see this taking some time, but they&#8217;ve effectively agreed to the system going forward.  The only difference is in how to get there and even in that area we&#8217;re talking about what amounts to a few percent difference over a couple seasons.  It&#8217;s a standoff in which they aren&#8217;t actually in  much disagreement.  If the games that have already been cancelled aren&#8217;t rescheduled, the players will have already lost more than they&#8217;re fighting to keep.  Even with the negativity towards the league from a lot of fans they&#8217;ve probably already hurt the league enough to lose that money from lower revenue even if it was a full season.  </p>
<p>When they&#8217;re down to fighting over a few hundred million (which is all it would be if revenue growth was even modest), it doesn&#8217;t take long for that to just disappear.  The best deal the players can likely get is to forget about the full contracts and go to probably 53%, 51%, 50% over the next few years.  With growth that would be maybe a 7% hit on their salaries next season and little to no hit in the seasons after that.  If they lose a full season or even half a season to hold out for that deal, they will have already lost far more than that.  At some point they need to be practical about this.  They aren&#8217;t fighting for future players in this case because they&#8217;re going to a 50/50 split within a few seasons either way so future players will be operating at 50/50.</p>
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		<title>By: fortwaynekomets</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy Roenick didn&#039;t seem too optimistic on Costas Tonight.  


He sounded like &quot;well... I hope there&#039;s a season, I hope a season can be salvaged.  it obvious the players and owners aren&#039;t coming to an agreement, so hopefully someone will step up and say he look we need to do what&#039;s right for the gale of hockey.&quot;

but we all know that is not happening!  
the day the NHL owners do something for the spirit of the game... well, ill be very surprised!


I&#039;m honestly over it.  we&#039;ve already missed a half a season pretty much.  I got my ECHL and AHL stream subscriptions @ American One Sports online, I&#039;m good!!! 
GO KOMETS!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy Roenick didn&#8217;t seem too optimistic on Costas Tonight.  </p>
<p>He sounded like &#8220;well&#8230; I hope there&#8217;s a season, I hope a season can be salvaged.  it obvious the players and owners aren&#8217;t coming to an agreement, so hopefully someone will step up and say he look we need to do what&#8217;s right for the gale of hockey.&#8221;</p>
<p>but we all know that is not happening!<br />
the day the NHL owners do something for the spirit of the game&#8230; well, ill be very surprised!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m honestly over it.  we&#8217;ve already missed a half a season pretty much.  I got my ECHL and AHL stream subscriptions @ American One Sports online, I&#8217;m good!!!<br />
GO KOMETS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: steelers88</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelers88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah sure]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah sure</p>
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		<title>By: paledevil</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 22:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last season basketball was lackadaisical.  Last night i watch a game with 30+ turnovers.. Dont hope for the same level of play until 2014]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last season basketball was lackadaisical.  Last night i watch a game with 30+ turnovers.. Dont hope for the same level of play until 2014</p>
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		<title>By: jayreiterman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayreiterman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s about dam time, they don&#039;t realize the fact they are loosing fans like in the 2004-2005 NHL lockout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about dam time, they don&#8217;t realize the fact they are loosing fans like in the 2004-2005 NHL lockout.</p>
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