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CBA update: Sides still speaking, but no formal talks planned

Oct 30, 2012, 12:07 AM EDT

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Despite rumors that the 2013 Winter Classic might be canceled by Thursday, the NHL and NHLPA haven’t scheduled formal CBA negotiations as of Monday night, according to RDS’ Renaud P. Lavoie.

Lavoie reports that the two sides are still speaking via phone calls and e-mails, however.

As discouraging as this update might be, it shouldn’t be surprising considering the tensions that have been building since the NHL rejected the NHLPA’s three plans on Oct. 18 and November’s games were canceled.

Earlier on Monday, NHL exec Bill Daly insisted that there’s “still a large gulf to bridge.” On the other hand, some players are venting frustrations toward owners while others point fingers at both sides.

At the moment, it seems as if the hockey world’s attention will focus on more possible cancellations rather than the next round of meetings.

  1. sampulls - Oct 30, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    Players need to be taught a lesson.

    • flyerkidd - Oct 30, 2012 at 8:16 AM

      What about the owners?

    • eyeh8goodell - Oct 30, 2012 at 9:42 AM

      Oh yeah what lesson is that? Looks like it’s the owners that are learning the hard lesson…….that the free market they love so much dictates that the players have a globally marketable talent and they have simply taken their talent elsewhere. Looks like the NHL’s product has decided to up and be sold by other companies instead. LOVE IT. Love when corporate “free market” D-bags have their philosophy bite them right in the backside.

      • bhawksrule - Oct 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM

        Fans need to learn the lesson.

  2. flyeredup - Oct 30, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    Who cares?

  3. blomfeld - Oct 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM


    Contrary to the vast majority of opinion here at PHT, I for one sincerely believe that Gary Bettman cares very much for our beloved game of hockey. His cannot be an easy task, balancing the insatiable greed of NHL players against the callous and ever-unscrupulous demands of the “Corporation”. Like many of you, I also never really cared for Gary previously. But in recent times, especially during this impasse, I’ve come to realize that Gary is probably just a decent guy after all, trying to to do what’s best for the game we love. I mean seriously, what would you people prefer ? .. some patsy who just folded like a tent ? Think what kind of headlines we’d have today if some “namby-pamby” commissioner were to be in charge instead of Gary …

    – Suter Signs for 100 Million Dollars !
    – Ovechkin Announces That He Won’t Play on Weekends !
    – Luongo Signs for 20,000 Light Years !
    – Crosby to Open New Dress Shop !

    The bottom line friends is that we should “all” consider the difficult position which Gary is in before we judge. And we should “all” appreciate “that” which he has done for our beloved game. I’ll level with you people by telling you that I was seriously “sickened to my stomach” two years ago when Canuck fans “en masse” heckled and booed this hard-working man during the Cup presentation ceremony here in Vancouver. And yet as sure as “night gives way to the morning”, my anger was then completely assuaged this past June, by the “wondrous” cheers of support which the good folk of Los Angeles gave to Gary during the presentation of Lord Stanley’s mug to our glorious Kings ! So let’s not be irrational or blind to the truth. Fehr will be long gone tomorrow, no two ways about it. Whereas Gary will still be here, leading our league into the future, if for no other reason than the fact that he cares, just as he’s always done.

    • blomfeld - Oct 30, 2012 at 1:12 AM

      friends … the sentence above which says “Suter Signs for 100 Million Dollars” was a typo-error on my part, as he’s already done that … I intended to say “Suter Signs for 100 “Billion” Dollars” … please accept my apologies !

      • valoisvipers - Oct 30, 2012 at 10:07 AM

        Blomfeld apologises for a typo and gets 6 thumbs down for that, must be 6 trolls that need to get a life.

    • id4joey - Oct 30, 2012 at 7:10 AM

      Great post blomfeld. Very astute. Go Kings! Elvis rules! :-)

    • valoisvipers - Oct 30, 2012 at 10:01 AM

      Bettman won me over in the last lockout as he did improve the game and has grown the sport and it’s revenue greatly.Yes friends even in the unlikely sunbelt spots that are money losers will one day be solid hockey markets.It will take time, money and some grass roots work but it will work out in the long run and the league, the owners, and the players will all greatly profit from Gary’s effort. The key is to make sure that all teams can compete on an equal basis, thus the need for reduced players share of HRR as the 57% forcefully generates these so called ridiculous contracts that players happily sign. Share the wealth for health of our sport that we love and now miss.

  4. puckdog - Oct 30, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    The fans should form a union. If it weren’t for the fans and the hard-earned money spent, this situatuation would not exist. In the day it was about competition, honor, and glory. Business is so hardball. Fans, with all due respect, are whimps.

    • puckdog - Oct 30, 2012 at 1:22 AM

      Tell me why u disagree.

  5. finfan88shark - Oct 30, 2012 at 3:08 AM

    If we fans start a union who will be our figure head, and who will be in charge of PR? Who would be the fan unions chief negotiator? Is Goodnow still around? Or maybe one of The late Marvin Miller cronies? We would need someone to lie to the media, provide false information and act like a 6th grader during negotiations.

  6. trbowman - Oct 30, 2012 at 3:22 AM

    Fuc* them all.

  7. db105 - Oct 30, 2012 at 6:56 AM

    Just cancel the season.

  8. ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2012 at 6:56 AM

    You also made an error in that a light year is a measure of distance, not time. Womp

    • calmdownandthink - Oct 30, 2012 at 12:08 PM

      It’s both.

      • ibieiniid - Nov 2, 2012 at 2:13 PM

        no…. it’s not

  9. bleed4philly - Oct 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Professional athletes should be fighting for the average contract, not a share of league revenues, unions always get in the way of business. The NHL is willing to make everyone a millionaire to play hockey. Comparing that to the average person, they should take it.

    • eyeh8goodell - Oct 30, 2012 at 9:40 AM

      I think you need to go do a little research (not surprising for a Philly fan), not only on the history of corporations/unions but also on pro sports player contracts. The vast majority are NOT making millions.

    • hockeyflow33 - Oct 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM

      The average person doesn’t play hockey at that level

  10. takingbovadasmoney - Oct 30, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    valo-lol. Very funny. Put franchise where they will lose money for decades and then blame the losses on the players share of revenue. Survival of the fittest. Sorry to the good fans of Phoenix, Florida, Nashville, etc. If you make the playoffs and still can’t turn a profit, maybe you shouldn’t have a franchise.

    • valoisvipers - Oct 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

      Perhaps friend you might enjoy the NBA or MLB leagues that only a handful can compete and the rest of the league is but a farmteam for them to purchase their steers by the binder full.

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