Screw them both. NFL is turning into a year-round event anyway.

Also, I can’t fault the agents for operating under the same parameters as Kovy’s, Hossa’s, etc. agents. This was already in the works because of what already existed.

Very Well said, I have been saying the same thing since this all started. @Chrisvegas, what do you think these players are making overseas? Many have signed in Tier-2 and Tier-3 leauges, what do you think they are making? I’d bet its less than $1,000 dollars a game. Here’s the deal, the game could die and the Owners would still be Millionaires, and Billionaires, the players would not. So, let me ask you again? Who has more to lose? I’m not picking sides, but I’m a realist, the only way this gets settled is for the players to back off the hardball and throw an extremly reasonable offer at the owners, one that meets more of their demands than of the players. Until that happens, hockey will continue to erode and soon there will be no professional North American Ice to play on (albeit, that is a long ways off). Like I said, a 50/50 split now for the players will have to be a 45/55 split next season for them to recoup lost money, because the overall pie will be smaller.

I wonder if part of the reason the All-Star game was awarded to Columbus was that it coincided with the end of the CBA? With the little general’s propensity to lockouts, I wonder if he was thinking, “Well, as we get close to scuttling the ’12-13 season, I don’t want the fans getting all riled up about missing the All-Star Game, so we’ll give it to some crap-hole like, oh, maybe Tampa Bay, or – NO – I GOT IT!!! Let’s have it in COLUMBUS!!! That way NO ONE will even care!”

Discuss…

(I gotta take this tin foil hat off – it’s making me dizzy.)

Losing 100% for one year is about the same as 7% over 14 seasons, and even if these players were thinking of such long careers, the time value of money is significant, and $1MM now is worth a lot more than $1MM in 2026 (around $2MM with 4% interest).

(Also, I’m not on the owners side at all, they can go to hell.)

I understand you may already get the local teams on tv, and the occasional versus (or whatever it is) game for “free,” but wouln’t you watching help generate to the ratings and thus help the NHL get a bigger TV deal?

You’re still contributing to the nhl’s bottom line!

And I, like many, would love to see you turn down some NHL gift…perhaps a signed and personalized jersey from your favorite player.

Source: Wikipedia

The 2011 NBA lockout was the fourth lockout in the history of the National Basketball Association (NBA). The owners began the work stoppage upon expiration of the 2005 collective bargaining agreement (CBA). The 161-day lockout began on July 1, 2011 and ended on December 8, 2011. It delayed the start of the 2011–12 regular season from November 1 to December 25, and it reduced the regular season from 82 to 66 games.

The main issues dividing the owners and the players, represented by the National Basketball Players Association (NBPA), were the division of revenue and the structure of the salary cap and luxury tax. During the lockout, teams could not trade, sign or contact players, and players could not access NBA team facilities, trainers or staffs. Some players signed contracts to play in other countries, mostly in Europe and Asia, with most of those players having the option to return to the NBA upon the lockout’s conclusion. After a tentative deal was reached on November 26, owners allowed players to have voluntary workouts at team sites starting December 1. After the deal was ratified on December 8, training camps, trades and free agency began the next day.

If a man shakes another mans hand it’s a deal and should be upheld. This is 2012, since when does that happen anymore??

Look I hate the greedy few owners that are holding this up, but I don’t feel sympathy or take blame away from the players like parise, suter and their agents.