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Online bookmaker: 2/1 odds of new CBA before Nov. 2

Oct 22, 2012, 1:30 PM EDT

Gary Bettman AP

Online sports book Bovada is offering 2/1 odds the owners and players will reach a new CBA before Nov. 2 and 1/3 odds it’ll be Nov. 2 or after.

Which is to say, Bovada doesn’t think a full 82-game season is likely, since a new CBA would surely need to be ratified by Nov. 2, if not earlier, for that to occur.

On the bright side, Bovada’s only willing to give 4/7 odds that the lockout will stretch past Dec. 31.

Not that site’s odds have been gospel when it comes to the NHL’s labor dispute. In June, it offered 1/5 odds a new agreement would be reached before the Sept. 15 expiration of the old CBA and 3/1 odds there’d be a lockout.

If only we had access to Gary Bettman’s betting account.

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  1. id4joey - Oct 22, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    Hang in their friends. We’ll soon be (thrash) talking about our most hated rivals and players. Though I wish we can just talk about the game and stay objective. Hockey is fierce and passionate so I suppose we fans have that in common.

    The deal is coming.

    • blomfeld - Oct 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM

      Id4joey = Agent of Hope

      It’s such a refreshing tonic to see someone else here at PHT show some “hope and optimism” amid what is otherwise a sea of despair and negativity. “Soon be talking about our most hated rivals and players” ? … “you’re darn tootin” as the decent folk of western Minnesota might say ! :)

  2. tmoore4075 - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    I don’t think they’ll be an 82 game schedule either and honestly I am ok with that. Get what you can fit in by April 13. When the season was supposed to end. I know both players and owners want as much money as possible and that’s why they want 82 games but I’d rather it be a little shorter.

  3. fortwaynekomets - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    I’m not sure why… but I have a feeling we are getting a full 82 game season, or no season at all.

    I don’t know what the NHL will do if they cannot make a deal this month. I kind of see them playing hard ball the entire way, and maybe cancel the whole season if they can’t do it in full. I feel the NHL would want to spare the embarrassment of a partial season, and maybe even cancel it as punishment to the NHLPA if they don’t agree on terms by Nov. 2nd.

    • lostpuppysyndrome - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:42 PM

      Yeah, it feels like an all-or-nothing situation. Either both sides are too stubborn and egos are too big for progress to be made, or they’re gonna get something done soon so they can finally drop the puck. I mean, if you look at player comments after the NHL’s proposal, it seemed to be “Great! Looks like we’re really close and we should have it done soon!” or “No way. The owners took advantage of us last time and they’re trying to do it again.” The only things that seem to be standing in the way are the egos involved, and relatively minor details. Ask anyone from the last lockout and they’ll tell you it wasn’t worth it.

  4. jimw81 - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    These odds are based on past lockouts in sports and lawyers talking to media at this point to get there faces in press. this is a different animal this time. This one is unpredictable.

  5. id4joey - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Reminder to all from Wikipedia.

    “The 2011–12 NBA season, the 66th season of the National Basketball Association (NBA), began with the signing of a new collective bargaining agreement (CBA) between the owners of the 30 NBA teams and the NBA’s players. The previous CBA, which was ratified in 2005, expired at 12:01 AM EDT on July 1, 2011, resulting in a lockout. With the new deal in place, the regular season was shortened from the normal 82 games per team to 66, because of the nearly two months of inactivity. The season began on December 25, 2011, and ended on April 26, 2012. The playoffs started on April 28 and ended on June 21”

    Hockey is a coming. Only questions left to answer is, when.

    • blomfeld - Oct 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM

      Great minds think alike !

      Id4joey – You’re thinking and analysis is terrific, as here again you provide a submission which clamors with reason … and holy crap do you ever think like me ! :)

      Your suggestion that Bettman and crew are using the 2011-2012 NBA experience as a template, is a direct “bulls-eye” as far as I’m concerned. Last January when the first murmurings of a potential lockout starting coming out, the previous fall’s NBA experience was one of the first things that came to my mind … don’t ask me why, it just did. Well lo and behold, look what’s unfolding now eh ? Anyway, I also discount the need for a complete 82 game schedule, at least as far as the thinking goes with these particular people. My thinking all along has been that we’ll end up with a 60 game “plus” schedule, based on a start date by approximately November 20th. Don’t ask me how or why, but I’ve just felt that “intuitively” right from the start.

  6. kitshky - Oct 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    2/1 before(!) Nov 2nd …hmm I could take that bet.

  7. blomfeld - Oct 22, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    “If only we had access to Gary Bettman’s betting account” ? …

    Well “we do” Mister Brough ! … or least we do figuratively speaking. Absolutely everything Bettman has done thus far is completely consistent with a “contrived” labor impasse, which is then followed by a late, albeit “calculated” start to the season. Never forget the old adage that “actions speak louder than words” ! I would submit that Bettman’s actions thus far have spoken “volumes” to us.

  8. id4joey - Oct 22, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    Blomfeld. Hmm! Should I take your words as a compliment. We think alike. Smiley! I have to admit than when you offer serious insight without your jokes, videos and pics, I do see we have things in common. 1) Elvis for sure 2) Kings.. To a certain degree after they added Sutter I started to appreciate their game. Saw a few games at Staples and one in particular against Van last year on New Years Eve. I was impressed. Unfortunately I moved from LA County in the midst of their march to the SC. 3) love for hockey to name the obvious

    • blomfeld - Oct 22, 2012 at 6:26 PM

      As a “compliment” my words must be taken ! The deal here with me boils down to basically nothing more than an issue of “hats” … that’s right, those things we wear on our heads ! You see, whenever I write at this excellent PHT forum, I’m continually “conflicted” in terms of which hat I’m going to wear ? Should it be a serious one ? .. a crazy one ? .. a thoughtful one ?.. a fun one ? .. a retaliatory one ? .. maybe even an Elvis one ? :)

      Anyway, good on you for being at least a “partial” King’s fan, though too bad you had to leave LA county there. 10 years ago I was living in Torrance before I moved back to Vancouver here. As you know, So Cal is not exactly “hockey country” to say the least. But when you do meet a hockey fan down there, they’re usually pretty intense and passionate. Keep up your terrific input here ! … and despite what my detractors think, I say it’s time for an Elvis video !

      one of my personal favorites …

      • id4joey - Oct 22, 2012 at 6:55 PM

        Yeah! Not to many hockey fans in So Cal. But, I have to admit I met a few. Some passing by, some have been there for a while. I met Wild Wing a few times. Good guy and a great hockey fan. Also ran into Teemu at a Starbucks in San Juan Capistrano. Very nice man. We chatted about the playoff run, his career, and a slew of other topics. He’s an awesome dude. During the draft I also ran into a childhood friend who has been a scout for the Islanders for quite some time. You just never know who you’ll run into in So Cal.

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