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Fehr: Latest offer rejections sign of “fairly long road” ahead

Oct 20, 2012, 5:20 PM EDT

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NHLPA boss Donald Fehr presented the NHL with three proposals in response to the league’s most recent CBA offer. It turns out that the league’s offer was, in Fehr’s words to the players, essentially a “take it or leave it” deal.

The union could offer tweaks, but the NHL wasn’t interested in going much beyond that.

Since then, QMI Agency has spoken to Fehr and asked him if the NHL’s quick dismissal of the league’s offers made him upset.

“I don’t get upset. I don’t get excited. It’s just another indication that this is going to be fairly long road,” Fehr said based on the Ottawa Sun’s transcript.

He said that the players might consider and evaluate a number of options if the league doesn’t eventually back down from their current stance and we end up in greater jeopardy of losing the entire season, but he didn’t go into details. However, he has previously implied that he might fight the salary cap itself if the lockout drags on.

Fehr also sidestepped the question of if the players are willing to lose this season if they feel it’s necessary to get a deal that they are comfortable with.

“Players will make all of those decisions and I never speculate about stuff like that,” Fehr said. “I have never my entire career. I think it’s counter-productive … You can judge the level of the resolve just by talking to the players and listening to them. I’m not concerned about the unity and resolve of the players.”

As it stands, Fehr says that while the union is still available to resume the negotiations, he claims “where the commissioner left it was: (Don’t call) unless you’re prepared to tell me you’ll accept everything that’s on the table.”

He says the exception is if the players want to entertain a “make whole” provision, which Fehr describes as “players paying players for the reduced salaries in the first two years.”

So to sum it up, we’re back in limbo, but we can hope that the players and owners latest offers brought them closer together in the long-term, even if it has divided them further in the short-term.

  1. id4joey - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    This is all good. Negotiations are on course in preparation for the start of the schedule by U.S. Thanksgiving. Others have made this prediction, and it sure seems that we’re heading in that direction.

  2. id4joey - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    “He said that the players might consider and evaluate a number of options if the league doesn’t eventually back down ”

    This is very positive. Right blomfeld?

    • blomfeld - Oct 20, 2012 at 8:18 PM

      “All the world’s a stage” …

      Positive it is friend ! :)
      Anyway, Fehr’s blathering above is actually a coded message which can be deciphered as follows … “not much longer to wait … November can’t come soon enough … hope we haven’t pushed things too far ? … God damn Bettman … should not have agreed to his stupid plan … please help me”.

      • hockeyflow33 - Oct 20, 2012 at 9:55 PM

        The fact that you were forced to create two screennames is beyond pathetic

  3. sampulls - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Fehr is a joke!

    • stakex - Oct 20, 2012 at 7:52 PM

      Oh hes no joke. He is the single biggest thing standing in the way of a deal.

      He is the one person in this whole battle that has absolutely nothing to lose if the NHL loses the season, and the brand is damaged. Say what you want about the owners, but they are losing millions of dollars right now. If the NHL is hurt by the lockout, they will feel it. The same can be said about the players themselves.

      Fehr though? He can walk away without so much as a scratch on him… and its very dangerous to have someone like that advising and leading the players.

  4. manchestermiracle - Oct 20, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    “Fairly long road?” These jokers can’t even see the road from the ditch they’ve been in for the last several months.

  5. id4joey - Oct 20, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Folks, there will be AHL hockey on TV this evening. Catch it.

    News flash Ben Eager in the can for assault at The Quail on Young St in Toronto. Get these guys back on the ice ASAP. .

  6. sabatimus - Oct 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM

    Fehr, of course you don’t get upset. You’re a lawyer who cares much more about the association than whether games actually get played. Of course, the irony of this is that the players are losing money the longer this goes on.

    Honestly, you’re starting to be as bad as Bettman.

  7. ron05342 - Oct 20, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    The league wasn’t interested in making a deal when they made that ridiculous and imbecilic first offer and the player’s union isn’t interested in making a deal with these ridiculous multiple offers…and as long as Fehr is running the NHLPA, this will be dragged out until June.

    2014.

  8. fortwaynekomets - Oct 20, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    he doesn’t get upset is all you need to know, folks.

  9. csilojohnson - Oct 20, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Its great that both sides are thinking of the fans.

  10. jasndc75 - Oct 20, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    the nhl is done. somebody just start a new league

  11. stakex - Oct 20, 2012 at 7:56 PM

    I love how he blast the league for their “Take it or leave it” stance, when the players are the ones who refuse to move from their opening position. Sure the owners set a bad tone with a laughable first offer… but they have in fact moved from that position to the middle. The players? All three of their latest offers are in the same ballpark as their first offer. There is very little movement from their side.

    If this keeps up, and this nimrod does go ahead and put the cap on the table… fans better get ready to lose next season too. Because the owners will not react well to that.

  12. tackledummy1505 - Oct 20, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    At this point I don’t really care what Fehr says. Point is that this league is going to die, because the players want as much money as possible. I’m sorry but for a guy who makes about average money and puts his life on the line every day in the military doesn’t sit there and complain about what he’s making. These guys have the best job in the world in my eyes and yet they want to be paid as much as the owners do. Seriously? Look if Mario Lemeuix can make what he made and become an owner himself in Pittsburg, how can’t the players of today do the same? This sounds selfish and doesn’t seem like the words that we hear most of the players are saying. They want to come back to hockey and play. Fehr says they’ll come back to play, but only if they keep making as much money as possible. Awesome! This is a joke anymore.

  13. thedavesiknowiknow - Oct 20, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    (I got this)

    Dear Donald Fehr,
    I lost a quarter. It’s shiny, and it’s somewhere in New York.

  14. websurferdude - Oct 20, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    I’m at the point I don’t care if hockey comes back or not. It took me years to come back from the strike of 2004-2005. I have picked a side and I hope the players don’t give in. If the owners want to sign these players to the grossly amounts of money and years and then decide that they don’t want to pay them, yea I would stay away to.

  15. firemarshal1 - Oct 21, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Tick, tock that’s nobody making money. If the season is cancelled. EVERYONE’S FUTURE TAKE WILL BE A HUGH FINANCIAL LOSS, THAT NO ONE WILL EVER RECOVER FROM. The owners will close shop, and players will find real life is very difficult and challenging to make a descent living. Especially, with limited education and job skills. Just something to think about before you let your emotions and pride get the best of you.

    As fan, I’m actually starting to get use to having NO HOCKEY. There is the MLB playoffs, NFL, and the movies/theatre/concerts.

  16. creek0512 - Oct 21, 2012 at 1:12 AM

    Does anyone honestly think Fehr cares if they play at all this year? This is the guy who led the cancelation of the World Series.

  17. gp424 - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:05 AM

    Time to bring in the replacement players, and anyone who wants to play in the NHL. Start a new league NAHL National Assoicated Hockey League. Same owners same team names since the teams own those rights. Each team can sign 25-30 players they wish to sign anyone who wants to play. NHL union breakers, NHL Free Agents, players from Europe and AHL players who want to actually earn big paychecks. Use the same rules as the owners proposed on their CBA. When a player signs his contract he is committed to not strike during the term of his contract. Allow players to forum a union. Award the Stanley Cup (as it can be sold from the NHL to the NAHL for say $100.00). Lets get it rolling Bettman, owners. Screw the players who don’t want to play, screw Donald Fehr. As a season ticket holder for an NHL team I am in.

  18. davida2012 - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:53 AM

    I am in too. I agree with the military fella , players own up play and shut up !! Your over paid already!! I’m sick of hockey now. I have almost more respect for NbA ghetto negro league now and I uses to hate it. At least they stopped this. U Guys are going to Europe and don’t care !! I say stay there and stay in Canada eh ??!!!

  19. rbern11162 - Oct 21, 2012 at 6:49 AM

    Fehr better smarten up . The owners shut this game down for a year once . They have no problem doing it again . Then where will the players be . They definitely won’t have as good a deal on the table as they do now . In fact I bet the salary cap will be back to 2005 levels. I knew this was going to happen when they hired that jackass fehr.

  20. shrshot - Oct 21, 2012 at 7:55 AM

    Fehr is a self serving a-hole who will drag this out to pad his pockets until the players force him to make a deal. Lawyers are just plain evil

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