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	<title>Comments on: Report: Latest proposal would allow teams to go over salary cap this season</title>
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		<title>By: lordfletcher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lordfletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see. What expires after this year
2012-2013
PMB $4 million
Matt Cullen 3.5 Million 
Backstrom 6 Million 

2013-2014
Heatley 7.5
+ half of the team so they will have several other contracts signed or moved by now, and or rookies starting. 

The Wild will be in zero cap issues for at least 3/4 years. 


Capgeek.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see. What expires after this year<br />
2012-2013<br />
PMB $4 million<br />
Matt Cullen 3.5 Million<br />
Backstrom 6 Million </p>
<p>2013-2014<br />
Heatley 7.5<br />
+ half of the team so they will have several other contracts signed or moved by now, and or rookies starting. </p>
<p>The Wild will be in zero cap issues for at least 3/4 years. </p>
<p>Capgeek.</p>
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		<title>By: claysbar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[claysbar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim Thomas signed a 35+ contract which states, in short, if you signed a player to a contract after the age of 35, regardless of whether the player plays or where (minors, overseas), that team is on the hook for his salary against the cap unless that player is sent to the minors after the first year of the contract, in which they would receive 100k in relief.  

Article 50.2(c)(iv) All Player Salary and Bonuses earned in a League Year by a Player
who is in the second or later year of a multi-year SPC which was
signed when the Player was age 35 or older (as of June 30 prior to
the League Year in which the SPC is to be effective), regardless of
whether, or where, the Player is playing, except to the extent the
Player is playing under his SPC in the minor leagues, in which
case only the Player Salary and Bonuses in excess of $100,000
shall count towards the calculation of Actual Club Salary. 
Article 50.5(d)(i)(b)(5)All Player Salary and Bonuses earned in a League
Year by a Player who is in the second or later year
of a multi-year SPC which was signed when the
Player was age 35 or older (as of June 30 prior to
the League Year in which the SPC is to be
effective), but which Player is not on the Club&#039;s
Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster
or Non Roster, and regardless of whether, or where,
the Player is playing, except to the extent the Player
is playing under his SPC in the minor leagues, in
which case only the Player Salary and Bonuses in
excess of $100,000 shall count towards the
calculation of Averaged Club Salary]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Thomas signed a 35+ contract which states, in short, if you signed a player to a contract after the age of 35, regardless of whether the player plays or where (minors, overseas), that team is on the hook for his salary against the cap unless that player is sent to the minors after the first year of the contract, in which they would receive 100k in relief.  </p>
<p>Article 50.2(c)(iv) All Player Salary and Bonuses earned in a League Year by a Player<br />
who is in the second or later year of a multi-year SPC which was<br />
signed when the Player was age 35 or older (as of June 30 prior to<br />
the League Year in which the SPC is to be effective), regardless of<br />
whether, or where, the Player is playing, except to the extent the<br />
Player is playing under his SPC in the minor leagues, in which<br />
case only the Player Salary and Bonuses in excess of $100,000<br />
shall count towards the calculation of Actual Club Salary.<br />
Article 50.5(d)(i)(b)(5)All Player Salary and Bonuses earned in a League<br />
Year by a Player who is in the second or later year<br />
of a multi-year SPC which was signed when the<br />
Player was age 35 or older (as of June 30 prior to<br />
the League Year in which the SPC is to be<br />
effective), but which Player is not on the Club&#8217;s<br />
Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster<br />
or Non Roster, and regardless of whether, or where,<br />
the Player is playing, except to the extent the Player<br />
is playing under his SPC in the minor leagues, in<br />
which case only the Player Salary and Bonuses in<br />
excess of $100,000 shall count towards the<br />
calculation of Averaged Club Salary</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a fact, not sure why you would give it a thumb&#039;s down]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fact, not sure why you would give it a thumb&#8217;s down</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No because he goes on the suspended, did not report list and his number isn&#039;t counted against the cap until he comes back]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No because he goes on the suspended, did not report list and his number isn&#8217;t counted against the cap until he comes back</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea, I agree with you but I just can&#039;t see this being a big deal because of how few players it pertains to but I didn&#039;t think we&#039;d even miss training camp so what do I know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I agree with you but I just can&#8217;t see this being a big deal because of how few players it pertains to but I didn&#8217;t think we&#8217;d even miss training camp so what do I know?</p>
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		<title>By: hockeydon10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeydon10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 00:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point. Players may push back a little on this, trying for 6 or 7 year max rather than unlimited, in order to get concession on something else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. Players may push back a little on this, trying for 6 or 7 year max rather than unlimited, in order to get concession on something else.</p>
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		<title>By: hockeydon10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeydon10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 00:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: players that don&#039;t return

No, they would be suspended and would not count against the cap. Same thing happened with Radulov when he left for the KHL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: players that don&#8217;t return</p>
<p>No, they would be suspended and would not count against the cap. Same thing happened with Radulov when he left for the KHL.</p>
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		<title>By: hockinj25</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockinj25]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t know Parise and Suter only signed 1 year deals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know Parise and Suter only signed 1 year deals.</p>
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		<title>By: claysbar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[claysbar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure that Thomas would. Unless they agree to retro-remove the 35+ rule. They may not physically have to pay him if he does not play, but the contract would still count against the cap. Again, unless they change the ruling on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure that Thomas would. Unless they agree to retro-remove the 35+ rule. They may not physically have to pay him if he does not play, but the contract would still count against the cap. Again, unless they change the ruling on it.</p>
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		<title>By: rsl22</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rsl22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I agree that we&#039;re talking about a small number of players, but five years still seems short. 

Based on the 13-year contracts we&#039;ve seen, I&#039;d say 7 years is a bit more reasonable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I agree that we&#8217;re talking about a small number of players, but five years still seems short. </p>
<p>Based on the 13-year contracts we&#8217;ve seen, I&#8217;d say 7 years is a bit more reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Thomas will come off which is like $9m so the B&#039;s are in good shape]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Thomas will come off which is like $9m so the B&#8217;s are in good shape</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many guys actually get contract offers over 5 years though? Off the top of my head I can&#039;t imagine it&#039;s more than 2 or 3 per team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many guys actually get contract offers over 5 years though? Off the top of my head I can&#8217;t imagine it&#8217;s more than 2 or 3 per team.</p>
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		<title>By: soj83</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[soj83]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the cap floor rule is the same, some teams may be wanting to add salary to get to the floor through a trade for Thomas (BOS), Redden (NYR), Gomez (MTL) etc.

I also wonder how defectors contracts would be treated.  If Kovalchuk, Bryzgalov, Ovechkin or others don&#039;t come back, would they count against the cap?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the cap floor rule is the same, some teams may be wanting to add salary to get to the floor through a trade for Thomas (BOS), Redden (NYR), Gomez (MTL) etc.</p>
<p>I also wonder how defectors contracts would be treated.  If Kovalchuk, Bryzgalov, Ovechkin or others don&#8217;t come back, would they count against the cap?</p>
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		<title>By: lordfletcher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lordfletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[luckily the Wild have plenty of $$$ coming off the books after this year and rookies started their deals. Whew! that would suck for 2013-14-15-16 ....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>luckily the Wild have plenty of $$$ coming off the books after this year and rookies started their deals. Whew! that would suck for 2013-14-15-16 &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rsl22</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rsl22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[5-year contract limits is going to be a big deal. Players won&#039;t agree to that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5-year contract limits is going to be a big deal. Players won&#8217;t agree to that.</p>
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		<title>By: freneticgarfieldfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[freneticgarfieldfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Chiarelli has sleepless nights. Should the LTIR cap rule not change, he may simply put Savard on LTIR (they pay his salary anyways).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Chiarelli has sleepless nights. Should the LTIR cap rule not change, he may simply put Savard on LTIR (they pay his salary anyways).</p>
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