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PHT Morning Skate: Trembling at the prospect of a multi-year lockout

Oct 11, 2012, 9:00 AM EDT

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PHT’s Morning Skate takes a look around the world of hockey to see what’s happening and what we’ll be talking about around the NHL world and beyond.

From the “even worse than you imagined” lockout files, two different columnists wonder if the lockout could last multiple seasons.

First, Gary Lawless ponders a 24-month work stoppage. (Winnipeg Free-Press)

Meanwhile, Bob Hepburn brings up the idea of it lasting up to three years. Yikes. (The Toronto Star)

Pivoting ever so slightly, Michael Grange has a message to the owners: do the right thing and see where it leads. (

Scott Burnside views the players’ labo(u)r board challenges as an “exercise in pettiness.” (ESPN)

Josh Yohe runs down 10 things we might end up missing from the 2012-13 season. (Sulia)

Pension Plan Puppets provides a little lesson in “lockout economics.” (Pension Plan Puppets)

“The Freakonomics of fan protests.” (Raw Charge)

Duncan Keith calls the lockout “embarrassing for everybody.” (

Tyler Seguin is trying to make the most out of his Swiss exodus. (

  1. antkowiak666 - Oct 11, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    “First, Gary Lawless ponders a 24-month work stoppage.”if this was to happen you might as well fold the entire league.noone will miss it even after 12 would have moved on by then.

  2. getadealdonealready - Oct 11, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    That sounds about right, the wild finally might be relevant and the whole stinking league folds!

  3. dcbear90 - Oct 11, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Ya, that’s ridiculous. This thing will get figured out by New Years Day at the latest.

  4. skillful999 - Oct 11, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    hmmm. split it 47.5- 47.5 and give the last 5% to kids who cant afford to play hockey… how about that.?

  5. falstaffsmind - Oct 11, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    There is more English Premier League soccer on TV than Hockey these days ,even without the lockout. While they bicker, another sport is quietly passing them by.

    • martysbetter - Oct 11, 2012 at 10:41 AM

      This is where my attention has gone to during this lockout – if this thing lasts more than an entire season I’m not sure I’ll ever watch the NHL again to be honest..

      • crosberries - Oct 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM

        If soccer becomes bigger then hockey I will completely give up on sports.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM

        Soccer is already bigger than hockey.

      • eastcoastcynic - Oct 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM

        Re: Soccer is already bigger than Hockey

        Bigger doesn’t mean better. It would be like saying Justin Bieber is better than Saint. Vitus (Black Sabbath influenced metal band for those unfamiliar:)).

  6. joeyashwi - Oct 11, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Under Bettman the NHL has somehow managed to become less popular, tv coverage wise anyway, than UFC, NASCAR, English Premier League Soccer, and even poker. Poker!!! His arrogance that we the fans are going to flock back is wrong. In the end they are arguing over a bigger piece of a rapidly diminishing sized pie. They may get their 57% of HRR but that revenue is going to be rapidly dwindling. Nice job everybody involved. On a side note, kudos for burying the NHL on a network that hardly anybody had access to (versus). Was excited to watch a full season on NBC sports. I’m sure Bettman figures everybody will just buy the NHL package from their providers. We won’t!

    • eyeh8goodell - Oct 11, 2012 at 10:57 AM

      I despise Bettman as much as anybody, but hockey has never been a premier ratings draw. Even when ESPN had the contract they didn’t give hockey the time of day in their broadcast schedule. Right now the ratings are the highest they’ve been in a long time. One thing I agree with Bettman on was the move to kick ESPN to the curb. While the idea of having games on OLN seemed a head scratcher at first, a plan was obviously in the works. VS became a half decent channel that showcased hockey more than ESPN ever did. And now that has blossomed in the NBC Sports channel, which is still giving hockey more play than ESPN ever did.

      That said, Eff Gary Bettman.

  7. grillmarks - Oct 11, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Multi-year work stoppage? Why not just fold and never have the NHL again?

    It makes my blood boil. I just don’t get it… simple as that.

  8. Phil Young - Oct 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    That freakonomics link isn’t working for me. Anyone else able to get to that article?

  9. eyeh8goodell - Oct 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    No way there’s a multi-year stoppage. They couldn’t possibly that dumb/greedy. But then…….I said that going into this work stoppage too, that couldn’t possibly be so dumb as to have another lockout and kill all the gains and momentum had built and enjoyed after the last one. But they proved me wrong.

    Money = Power. Power Corrupts.

  10. fortwaynekomets - Oct 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    Hockey is going nowhere and the owners know that.

    The owners know we will wait an entire season, or two, to watch our hockey!

    It’s very messed up because the ONLY PEOPLE GETTING SCREWED ARE THE FANS. and the owners know we’ll be back buying our season tickets the day Bettman ends the lockout.

    honestly guys, just start following the AHL or the ECHL. the talent is so stacked now because of the NHL lockout. plus we got KHL games airing on ESPN 2. I just want to watch good competitive hockey, if there is no NHL, so be it. there is nothing we can do but protest. because in this situation its always Fans loss > NHL’s loss, sadly.

    • gallyhatch - Oct 11, 2012 at 1:21 PM

      As an NHL season ticket holder, and I have to call you out on this one. . . . I’m not getting screwed so much as I’m being inconvenienced.

      The people getting screwed are the ones who work for the arenas who are losing work / paychecks because of this bs. Yeah, I’m frustrated I won’t get my hockey this fall (hopefully it gets figured out by New Years) but I genuinely feel bad for my beer guy who counts on the money from the hockey games to support his family (& everyone else at the arenas who count on the games for their livings). Those are the people getting screwed.

      Me? I’ll spend less time in front of a t.v. or at the arena this fall. While I’m bummed there’s no hockey, I’m hardly getting screwed.

  11. id4joey - Oct 11, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Right now we have NFL, NBA, and MLB playoffs, which leaves a small piece of the pie for the NHL. The biggest TV event of the regular season for the NHL is of course the WC, which I believe is overrated. But that’s for another day. So, the season may very well start on time to benefit from the revenues generated from the WC.

  12. fortwaynekomets - Oct 12, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    yeah I have to agree with you about the stadium workers, etc. but WE ARE GETTING SCREWED.

    you might not think you are, but when someone pulls the rug out from under your feet… yeah I feel screwed.

    when I invest literally all my time and money into the NHL, only to have it taken away every 5 years, I’m being screwed over as a fan because they know we will be back.

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