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Alzner on lockout: “We’re definitely not going to win it”

Oct 6, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT

Karl Alzner #27 of the Washington Capitals skates against the Philadelphia Flyers at the Wells Fargo Center on March 22, 2012 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Flyers defetaed the Capitals 2-1 in the shootout.
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Washington Capitals defenseman Karl Alzner isn’t particularly experienced when it comes to lockouts, but if his quotes to’s Chuck Gormley are any indication, he’s a quick study.

Alzner’s assessment of the work stoppage sounds like it came from a veteran. The players know they’re going to lose; it’s just a matter of how much they might lose.

“I think both sides know what their next proposal is, it’s just who wants to give it first,” Alzner said. “The owners know what their bottom percentage is and I’m sure Don [Fehr] knows what’s going to be a good one for us economically.”

“But who’s going to be the first one to bite the bullet? No one wants to lose the negotiation. We understand we’re definitely not going to win it.”

Along with providing a sober assessment of the lockout, Alzner also shared his thoughts regarding Alex Ovechkin‘s threats to stay in the KHL.

“You don’t want to see that and you just hope it doesn’t happen,” Alzner said. “Honestly, I don’t know the seriousness of it. The only one who does know is him. For the sake of the Capitals I hope that’s not for real. He’s a big face of this league and we need to have him.”

  1. sampulls - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    2/3 of team losing money….players audit 12+ teams a year….they know this….of course they have to give in. Why wait?

    • stangz11 - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM

      They can’t give in right now. The offer that the owners have tabled is complete garbage for them. If the owners give in a little bit this thing might just get done (I hope)

  2. somekat - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Just for the idiot from that last story that claimed to “work in collective bargaining for years” and also that “Bettman tells the owners what to do”, read the quote above. “I’m sure the OWNERS (plural) know what their bottom percentage is, and I’m sure Fehr knows what going to be a good one for us”

    Most players have no idea, they are doing “what Fehr tells them to do”, while the owners, tell Bettman what they want done

    • adlent - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:53 AM

      I wouldn’t bank too heavily on thinking the owners control the process. Maybe a small collective of them, but it seems Bettman has very much consolidated power and that the owners have acquiesced because, despite how much we all hate him, he is constantly bailing owners out on their BS. He sort of is like the guy who takes emergency powers in a crisis, but won’t give them up.

      Still, while in the short run people can be happy about the idea that the players seem to think they’ll have to give in so we’ll get hockey back sooner, I don’t find this that encouraging. Just proves the owners can lock out the players, endure the hatred, and know once games start being cancelled the players will cave. This only encourages future lockouts.

      • somekat - Oct 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

        so how is that diffrent from 6 months ago?

        We all knew the owners could hold out, and don’t care about a PR hit, this is not news. Proof was not required, we ahve it from every other work stoppage in every other sport since the 80’s

      • blomfeld - Oct 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

        Never forget the old 80/20 rule friend, which applies to virtually “everything” in life … “technically”speaking, Bettman only needs 8 x owners on his side … though in reality, I suspect it’s even less than that ? …



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