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Report: NHLPA working on new proposal

Oct 4, 2012, 4:32 PM EDT


One of the owners’ big hangups with the players’ union is that they’ve yet to come back to them with another offer. That may soon be changing.

Andy Strickland of 590 AM in St. Louis reports the NHLPA is working on another proposal which they’re hoping to bring to the NHL soon. As of now, the two sides don’t have any talks scheduled and it wasn’t believed they’d meet again until next week.

The last time the owners and players met was last weekend but only non-financial topics were discussed. Without anything scheduled, it’s tough to say when things will get the opportunity to move forward (or backwards).

The fact the players’ union is working on something new, however, is a reason to be hopeful that perhaps things can get back on track to a settlement.

  1. bojangles83 - Oct 4, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    Lock both sides in a room with tables, washrooms, and food delivery services….force them to negotiate and and don’t let them out until they have agreed upon a deal.

    For the fans sake, get this over with.

    • paledevil - Oct 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM

      They would stay there for a month The season ticket holders wont get the preseason games money until late OCT… The owners are financing the strike and paying back season ticket holders with interest from their own investment..

      • barkar942 - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:18 AM

        Take away the tables, washrooms and food and it might just work. Oh yeah, no A/C either!
        GET A DEAL DONE!

    • nyrfan - Oct 7, 2012 at 11:05 AM

      I hate to burst your bubble, but the owners don’t care about us fans. They want more money and they don’t care if theirs hockey this year. The NHL franchises they own is not their only form of income. In a THN interview with Don Fehr, Don Fehr tells Adam proteau what the CBA negotiations are like. Fehr asked the owners ” When we have asked them basic questions like, ‘What do you think franchise values will increase to under your proposal?’ they say things like, ‘I don’t know.’ Well, give me a break. Or if we ask, ‘With your proposal, how does this affect the cash position of each individual team? They say, ‘Well, we don’t know.’ I understand why they say that – they say it because it won’t be helpful to their position. But it really doesn’t help the bargaining relationship for them to do that”. Don Fehr may not be a saint in all this, but he’s in it to get a deal done. The players have what they want. They just don’t want to let the owners to take more than they did in 04-05′. So you see. Locking them all in a room until they get a deal done isn’t gonna work because the OWNERS DO NOT CARE if we gave hockey this year. They get paid other ways. Unlike most of the players, who have to sign a contract to get paid. A contract the NHL owners don’t want to honor.

  2. bringbackthevipers - Oct 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    The players should give the owners what they want. In return they should just ask for Bettman to be fired. Players get to play and owners get to get richer. Sounds like a win win unless you’re Gary Bettman.

    • bcsteele - Oct 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

      Agreed. They can use his salary as part of a concession. And then when the players make a counter offer, they can use Daly’s salary as the second concession…

      • jtrain1966 - Oct 7, 2012 at 8:23 PM

        That’s not going to happen . If Bettman gets fired, you can bet that the next commissioner will be : Bill Daly !

  3. sjsharks66 - Oct 4, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    Agreed. Take the deal and fire Bettman. Maybe as the NHL grows and gains more fans they’ll have enough money to go back to what they are at now.

    • jtrain1966 - Oct 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM

      You know, I think the fact that people, meaning the fans, the players, & whomever else it concerns getting out there & complaining about Bettman might be pushing people away from the NHL ! Those people thinking if us fans, & the players are complaining about him that much it might not be a good watch .

  4. blomfeld - Oct 4, 2012 at 5:10 PM


    The bottom line is that even 40% of 3 billion dollars (ie: 1.2 billion) is still more than 50% of “nothing” … and obviously everyone knows that. So if “Joe Average” earning the Joe Average NHL salary of 2.4 million dollars decides that it’s a good idea to blow away the entire season over a lousy 5% disagreement with the owners (ie: 120 K), then indeed this truly is a lost cause.

    But fear not, as I still maintain that this entire business is nothing more than a “charade” being orchestrated by Bettman and several of the key “power” owners, for the explicit purpose of eliminating the initial part of the 2012-13 season. If you don’t believe me, then that’s fair enough. Yet according to Dadoun, now even the Vegas odds makers are saying the same thing ! … weird huh ? :)

    • sunking1 - Oct 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM

      Yeah Blomfled, as a NHL owner every 7 years or so I just HAVE to eliminate a bunch of early season games to make all right with the world. The other 6 years, everything is fine. You figured out the master plan

      • blomfeld - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:09 AM

        This has nothing to do with “every seven years” you stupid idiot ! This is about the “here and now” today, where at least 4-5 x NHL franchises are litreally clinging to “financial” life support by the skin of their teeth ! If they go, then so goes the entire, misereable, rotten “House that Bettman Built” ! Being a member of the flock, perhaps that’s a bit too much for you to handle, eh ? Well regardless, that’s unfortunately the deal we have here.

    • desertfan - Oct 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM

      More than half of the teams are either losing money or make all their money after Baseball and NFL is done.

      How do you think they are voting??

      • blomfeld - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:22 AM

        October and November are financial “disaster” months for at least 2/3 of the NHL’s franchises. Granted, for strong teams like New York, Toronto and Vancouver it makes little difference if these games are played or not. However for the majority of teams like Florida, Carolina and Nashville, not playing these games makes “all” the difference between life and death. It’s unfortunate, but such is where we’re at, with the current state of our NHL.

  5. ducksk - Oct 4, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    If Bettman’s last CBA deal was so horrible for league why didn’t they fire him? Look, don’t be fooled, he does what a small group of owners tell him to do. Last CBA he made 2 million a year and now makes 8 million. Do you think he got a raise for not doing what the owners wanted? As for Fehr, he’s just as bad, he fuels the players greed by saying they deserve more. It all will not end til all the egomaniac’s -owners or players can say they won. Screw them.

    • stakex - Oct 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM

      Well last time the owners really just cared about the cap. The numbers weren’t that big of a focus. Now I don’t know the numbers that great, but about half the NHL teams do in fact lose money every year… so it is possible in my eyes the numbers skew to the players a bit too much.

      Either way, its about time the player are making a counter offer. this isn’t a negotiation with only one side making offers.

  6. capsrockva - Oct 4, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    Just get the GD thing done before the end of the f*****g month ends for the fans sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. firemarshal1 - Oct 4, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    Wow! About time.

  8. jimw81 - Oct 4, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    Gary Bettman : Does it contain a 17% rollback?

    Doland Fehr: No.

    Gary Bettman: no thanks

  9. braddavery - Oct 5, 2012 at 5:16 AM

    Blow the whole damn league up for all I care. I can’t even begin to explain how pissed off I am at this awful league. One of the best sports on earth ruined by a bunch of idiotic, greedy fat-cats. I won’t be back as a fan any time soon. That’s a promise. I’ll get my hockey fix elsewhere.

    • odj810 - Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM

      absolutely, can we get some KHL on tv? I think it would be great to boycott arena’s for awhile. put it in the fans hands.

  10. deadrabbit79 - Oct 5, 2012 at 6:19 AM

    To a lot of peoples point about locking them in a room and forcing them to negotiate. I can see it now….both sides standing in groups on opposite sides of the room like at your first elementary school dance….waiting for the other side to make a move while everyone whispers to each other and sips punch from those clear plastic cups.

    • jtrain1966 - Oct 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM

      HAHA ! That’s awesome . I can see it now, the people who’ll thumbs down your comment are the ones who don’t have a sense of humor, & probably got turned down at that dance !

  11. brookemendoff - Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Reblogged this on The Hockey Hub and commented:
    I think everyone forgets about the fans. When it was announced that games through Oct. 24th were being cancelled I can’t tell you how many people I know how were so upset. That’s right they weren’t mad they were upset that their favorite sport won’t be starting for at least another month. As a fan it’s sucks having to sit on the sidelines and just wait for something to happen. This article gives some hope that the lockout could come to a close before the end of 2012.

  12. bleedingteal4life - Oct 5, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    Who cares, it’s already ruined

  13. manchestermiracle - Oct 5, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    “The last time the owners and players met was last weekend but only non-financial topics were discussed.”

    Talking about who you like in the MLB playoffs can’t be considered progress of any sort….

  14. jtrain1966 - Oct 5, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    I think the only reason for doing something now from the Players prospective is they don’t want to look bad whenever the League brings in the Federal Mediator ! That wouldn’t look to good in the Mediator’s eyes if the Players, & their Reps didn’t show a willingness to negotiate !

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