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		<title>By: blomfeld</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/02/should-the-union-nhl-seek-mediation/comment-page-1/#comment-104548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blomfeld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 03:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you know tatdick ... you and your moronic ilk are &quot;exactly&quot; the reason why I&#039;ve always preferred the company of plants and animals to that of my own species ... sad but very true ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know tatdick &#8230; you and your moronic ilk are &#8220;exactly&#8221; the reason why I&#8217;ve always preferred the company of plants and animals to that of my own species &#8230; sad but very true &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hockeydon10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeydon10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No union = No CBA
No CBA = No salary cap
No salary cap = 10% of the teams accounting for 80% of the Stanley Cup winners for 10 years prior to 2004 (Wings, Devils, Avs)
No salary cap = even higher salaries for the top free agents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No union = No CBA<br />
No CBA = No salary cap<br />
No salary cap = 10% of the teams accounting for 80% of the Stanley Cup winners for 10 years prior to 2004 (Wings, Devils, Avs)<br />
No salary cap = even higher salaries for the top free agents.</p>
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		<title>By: hockeydon10</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/02/should-the-union-nhl-seek-mediation/comment-page-1/#comment-104496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeydon10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think they could get there, but not as an immediate solution.

The players don&#039;t want to reduce salaries, but are willing to reduce their percentage.

Seems the solution would be to reduce the percentage over a few years. This would allow teams close to the cap to keep all their players, but the cap would go up very slightly (if at all) as the percentage is reduced. Once it gets to 50/50, the cap will again go up, allowing salaries to rise.

The downside is free agency takes a huge hit. More teams stay close to the cap and would be unable to count on an extra 5-7 million every year to sign free agents. Then again, this opens up smaller markets to sign good free agents, resulting in more parity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they could get there, but not as an immediate solution.</p>
<p>The players don&#8217;t want to reduce salaries, but are willing to reduce their percentage.</p>
<p>Seems the solution would be to reduce the percentage over a few years. This would allow teams close to the cap to keep all their players, but the cap would go up very slightly (if at all) as the percentage is reduced. Once it gets to 50/50, the cap will again go up, allowing salaries to rise.</p>
<p>The downside is free agency takes a huge hit. More teams stay close to the cap and would be unable to count on an extra 5-7 million every year to sign free agents. Then again, this opens up smaller markets to sign good free agents, resulting in more parity.</p>
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		<title>By: tatdue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tatdue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@blomfeld - That&#039;s funny cause I have heard that this crap might be over by that date also...only I heard it from  Elliotte Friedman, Bob McKenzie, and Darren Dreger and it has nothing to do with your operation “let’s reduce the season by 20%” but it has everythng to do with the fact that that weekend is the start of the new NBC television contract which is worth a butt load of money! There&#039;s always hope right...lol...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@blomfeld &#8211; That&#8217;s funny cause I have heard that this crap might be over by that date also&#8230;only I heard it from  Elliotte Friedman, Bob McKenzie, and Darren Dreger and it has nothing to do with your operation “let’s reduce the season by 20%” but it has everythng to do with the fact that that weekend is the start of the new NBC television contract which is worth a butt load of money! There&#8217;s always hope right&#8230;lol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jimw81</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimw81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mediation and Binding arbitration would end this lockout in 8 hours. but the problem is that gary is against it and will anything to get that 17% rollback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mediation and Binding arbitration would end this lockout in 8 hours. but the problem is that gary is against it and will anything to get that 17% rollback.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeh8goodell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eyeh8goodell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try reading a newspaper sometime instead of sleeping under it. Bettman&#039;s pretty much running the show. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sports/hockey/on-hockey-bettman-is-the-undisputed-nhl-enforcer.html?_r=2&amp;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try reading a newspaper sometime instead of sleeping under it. Bettman&#8217;s pretty much running the show. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sports/hockey/on-hockey-bettman-is-the-undisputed-nhl-enforcer.html?_r=2&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sports/hockey/on-hockey-bettman-is-the-undisputed-nhl-enforcer.html?_r=2&#038;amp</a>;</p>
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		<title>By: icrew29</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[icrew29]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do away with the union. All players can become independent consultants and negotiate their own contract. Players will have a lot more freedom and can play wherever they please. Players need to take responsibility for themselves and not rely on someone else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do away with the union. All players can become independent consultants and negotiate their own contract. Players will have a lot more freedom and can play wherever they please. Players need to take responsibility for themselves and not rely on someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: monsterhockey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monsterhockey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Bettman have you noticed how much news this is making?  No, me either. Congratulations to all involved on pushing this league back into obscurity!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Bettman have you noticed how much news this is making?  No, me either. Congratulations to all involved on pushing this league back into obscurity!</p>
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		<title>By: blomfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blomfeld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 04:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHY TRY TO FIX SOMETHING IF IT AIN&#039;T BROKE ?

Operation &quot;let&#039;s reduce the season by 20%&quot; is going according to plan perfectly, so who the hell needs a bunch of stupid mediators ?  It&#039;s sad to say, but like with most things in life involving humans, this is all about &quot;money&quot; and nothing more .. don&#039;t kid yourselves friends.  Nonetheless, our season &quot;will&quot; commence by the US Thanksgiving holiday weekend, that I can guarantee ! ... and don&#039;t say then then you didn&#039;t hear that first from Blomfeld, eh ?  ;)

Hey man ... we LA Kings are like seriously &quot;hungry&quot; to do you people again !  :)  :)  :)   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IWYmo2LceE&amp;feature=related]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY TRY TO FIX SOMETHING IF IT AIN&#8217;T BROKE ?</p>
<p>Operation &#8220;let&#8217;s reduce the season by 20%&#8221; is going according to plan perfectly, so who the hell needs a bunch of stupid mediators ?  It&#8217;s sad to say, but like with most things in life involving humans, this is all about &#8220;money&#8221; and nothing more .. don&#8217;t kid yourselves friends.  Nonetheless, our season &#8220;will&#8221; commence by the US Thanksgiving holiday weekend, that I can guarantee ! &#8230; and don&#8217;t say then then you didn&#8217;t hear that first from Blomfeld, eh ?  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hey man &#8230; we LA Kings are like seriously &#8220;hungry&#8221; to do you people again !  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    </p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='635' height='388' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/9IWYmo2LceE?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: cowboyscanada</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/02/should-the-union-nhl-seek-mediation/comment-page-1/#comment-104432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cowboyscanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of people are sick of this.  I really hope the season is completely wiped out.  Enough is enough,,, Billionaires arguing with millionaires....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of people are sick of this.  I really hope the season is completely wiped out.  Enough is enough,,, Billionaires arguing with millionaires&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: csilojohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[csilojohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 02:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There shouldve been one from the start. They should be required in these negotiations. You need an unbiased perspective to wade through the BS pissing contest that must go on on these rooms. This stuff seems elementary. Im no genius, but the bar on average intellect seems to be very low these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There shouldve been one from the start. They should be required in these negotiations. You need an unbiased perspective to wade through the BS pissing contest that must go on on these rooms. This stuff seems elementary. Im no genius, but the bar on average intellect seems to be very low these days.</p>
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		<title>By: firemarshal1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[firemarshal1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 02:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Mnwild15,

I totally agree 50/50 split.  If they don&#039;t agree with the Owners. Go to binding arbitration, that won&#039;t favor the NHLPA.  The arbitrator may suggest an agreement similar to the NFL&#039;s agreement.  No guarantee contracts.  No more W. Redden or S. Gomez contracts.  The players can soak with that though.  Oh the way, the players are really looking out for the fans and arena vendors?  Where&#039;s their counter proposal?  Oh that right, there isn&#039;t one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mnwild15,</p>
<p>I totally agree 50/50 split.  If they don&#8217;t agree with the Owners. Go to binding arbitration, that won&#8217;t favor the NHLPA.  The arbitrator may suggest an agreement similar to the NFL&#8217;s agreement.  No guarantee contracts.  No more W. Redden or S. Gomez contracts.  The players can soak with that though.  Oh the way, the players are really looking out for the fans and arena vendors?  Where&#8217;s their counter proposal?  Oh that right, there isn&#8217;t one.</p>
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		<title>By: mnwildfan15</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mnwildfan15]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[50/50 split get it over with already any word on realignment yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50/50 split get it over with already any word on realignment yet?</p>
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		<title>By: sampulls</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/02/should-the-union-nhl-seek-mediation/comment-page-1/#comment-104419</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sampulls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2012 is the year of QB&#039;s with good reputations going down in the drain....thought Rogers was above this....turning into a crybaby. Too bad, I sorta liked him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2012 is the year of QB&#8217;s with good reputations going down in the drain&#8230;.thought Rogers was above this&#8230;.turning into a crybaby. Too bad, I sorta liked him.</p>
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		<title>By: sampulls</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sampulls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya...this is all about Bettman.   Go crawl back under your rock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#8230;this is all about Bettman.   Go crawl back under your rock.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeh8goodell</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/02/should-the-union-nhl-seek-mediation/comment-page-1/#comment-104415</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eyeh8goodell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Bettman must be pulverized to dust. He is in dire need of a humbling. Mediation won&#039;t offer that. He has too much unchecked power and this is the time to strike him down..........much like Lord Vader cast Emperor Palpatine into the pit to finally rid himself and the galaxy of his evil. There&#039;s plenty of hockey for the fans to watch outside the NHL if they need hockey that bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Bettman must be pulverized to dust. He is in dire need of a humbling. Mediation won&#8217;t offer that. He has too much unchecked power and this is the time to strike him down&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.much like Lord Vader cast Emperor Palpatine into the pit to finally rid himself and the galaxy of his evil. There&#8217;s plenty of hockey for the fans to watch outside the NHL if they need hockey that bad.</p>
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		<title>By: revansrevenant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[revansrevenant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, mediation isn&#039;t the answer. Binding arbitration is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, mediation isn&#8217;t the answer. Binding arbitration is.</p>
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