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“No progress” in latest CBA talks, says Daly (with video)

Oct 2, 2012, 1:02 PM EDT


We’ll give you the bad news before we get to the good news.

The bad news is that the NHL and NHLPA met briefly today in New York and got nowhere closer to reaching a new CBA.

According to deputy commissioner Bill Daly, there was “no progress” and “today wasn’t overly encouraging that’s for sure.”

The two sides have agreed to stay in touch, but no further meetings are planned.

“Unless [the players] show some willingness to compromise, I don’t know how we get this done,” said Daly, who added that the cancellation of the preseason cost the NHL about $100 million.

The good news is…we lied, there’s no good news.

Here’s Daly:

  1. ewoods6 - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    Continuing to sound completely one sided Daly. Looking at a picture of you makes me nauseous.

    Thanks for runing my favorite part of the year because you and your GREED driven politicans want more more more and more.

    • elemeno89 - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:59 PM

      im willing to hear a good reason as to why the owners and the nhl think the players should make concessions. but because that none has been put out there, it shows that greed is the driving factor. which is dumb, because in the end if this drives out for long, then the league will be a worse spot than it was seven years ago.

      why can’t the nhl and the owners see that.

      im really willing to listen, but you can only tolerate a kicking and screaming toddler for so long before it become annoying. give me something more bill.

      • elemeno89 - Oct 2, 2012 at 5:15 PM

        just to clarify im behind the players 100%. it just would be interesting to hear a legitimate argument other than “because we said so.”

  2. islesjb - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    I side more so with the players than I do with the owners but they are being way too rigid in these negotiations.

    Steve Jobs once said that “You cannot have a negotiation without compromise.” Well there’s no way a new CBA can be reached without some kind of compromise and at this point, the players seem unwilling to do so. I know it sucks that the owners are a bunch of money grubbing jabronies but if the players remain unwilling to compromise on salaries and hockey related revenues, the season is going to be lost. Even worse, its the very people that generate these revenues and pay the player’s salaries that are going to take it on the chin. Not to mention the businesses and hard working people that will be negatively impacted by a lockout in an already struggling economy.

    Both sides need to quit the pissing contest and get something done because this is past the point of ridiculous.

  3. eskurtaco - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    NHLPA greed…

    They get a guaranteed contract with no outlay of cash to buy a team, or the day to day expense of running a team including the payroll necessary to pay players, coaches, ticket reps, trainers, receptionist, office staff, GMs, etc.

    But that’s not enough. Now they want a bigger share even though they did not risk a penny.

    Would love to see the players start to break the ranks of NHLPA.

    How much of the revenue sharing will you get in the KHL?

    • killerpgh - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:31 PM

      Where did you hear the players want a bigger share? I have never read that anywhere.

      • freneticgarfieldfan - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:42 PM

        The NHLPA wants guaranteed increases of 2%/4%/6% in the next three years.
        Should the HRR growth be less, the players would get, according to their wish, a higher share than the current 57%.

      • hockeydon10 - Oct 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM

        No where. He’s making s**t up.

        The PA is assuming growth of 7.1%. If revenue grows less, they’ll get less, if it grows more they’ll get more. (The 7.1%, FYI, is what revenue growth averaged over the previous CBA. The one that spanned the worst economy in 80.)

        In fact, using the 7.1% growth, the PA’s proposal starts at 54.3% and goes down from there.

    • blomfeld - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:55 PM

      “How much of the revenue sharing will you get in the KHL?”

      No kidding eh ? :) You can just see Ovechkin going up to his new “mob” boss and whining … “where is paycheck ?” … to which the mob boss replies … “listen you idiot, how would you like your nuts ? … stir-fried or shoved down your stupid throat ? … now piss off and don’t bother me again !”.

  4. comeonnowguys - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    Just face facts that there will be no hockey this year. We’re dealing with two of the most loathsome public-facing officials in recent sports history in Fehr and Bettman.

    It’s going to be ugly. It’s going to be pointless, as this undermines any inroads the game made in the past few years. And it’s going to relegate hockey to the level of Arena Football and the English Premeir League in terms of American sports attention.

    • getadealdonealready - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:36 PM

      Sadly I’m starting to think you are right. THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!

  5. blomfeld - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    “Unless the players show some willingness to compromise, I don’t know how we get this done” …

    Is this Daly an idiot or something ? Of course the players are doing everything in their power to get this done ! Just take these “moral stalwarts” like Ovechkin and Kovalchuk for example, who’ve bravely done the “right thing” by going overseas to put European journeymen out of work. That’s the way you fix things ! In fact, it’s really no different than when you have an upset with your wife at home. Talking together and understanding each other is probably the worst thing you could ever do. Anyone with even half a brain, knows that the best way to remedy a marital upset is to go right next door and have an affair with your neighbor’s wife ! I honestly don’t know about this anymore ? Because if this idiot Daly is indicative of the owner’s thinking, then I fear we could indeed be in for a very long haul ? … and that’s truly a shame.

  6. mpg44 - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    Better figure it out quick , or there won’t be anything to split once you agree how to split it . 50% of zero is zero!!

  7. Stiller43 - Oct 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    Fans should lock them in a room and only give them food, water, bathroom breaks, etc., when progress is made.

    If the sides wanted a deal they would have one. Theyre both posturing.

  8. hockeydon10 - Oct 2, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Daly says unless the show willingness to compromise.

    From what, one may ask?

    The percentage they receive?

    They’ve already tabled a proposal that compromises on the 57% the previous CBA had them receiving. The new proposal starts at 54.3% and goes DOWN from there, to a low of 52.3%, with more room left to negotiate.

    Maybe on the definition of HRR?

    The now-expired CBA didn’t even use every dollar generated as a result of hockey, and the owners’ offer cut into that even more. The players should compromise by just giving in to this new HRR definition? Oh, wait, I know, the owners put out a stupid offer and then came back with one slightly less stupid. That doesn’t make them the good guys.

  9. blueswincup - Oct 2, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    Bill Daly, you are a dufus. Just say what everyone knows you’ll be saying in a few hours. “We have cancelled the first 2 weeks of the regular season.”

    I’ve got my Directv number on speed dial and once you say these words I will be calling and canceling my NHL Center Ice. You catch my drift you bald moron?!?!?!?!?!?!!

    • antkowiak666 - Oct 2, 2012 at 2:48 PM

      i cancelled mine back in early Sep.

  10. rocktheredskins - Oct 2, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    NHLPA – Waaah! I want millions of dollars!
    Owners – Waaaah! No, I want millions of dollars!
    Stadium workers – I just want a paycheck so I can feed myself and family.
    Fans – I just want some hockey.

  11. jimw81 - Oct 2, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    I wonder if Fehr told bettman and daily that your top players are playing in khl that is being stream for FREE through espn3?

    I don’t know how bettman and daly survive this fiasco after this mess.

  12. jimw81 - Oct 2, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Btw did anyone in the media tell daly the reason they lost $100 million in first place because they decided to have lockout in the first place?

  13. sippindasyzurp - Oct 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    I used to be JACKED for hockey to start up this time of year.. But for some reason I find myself not really caring if there is hockey any more…. At the end of the day, if the NHL folded I am sure I would be able to move on with my life and find something else to do with my dollars.

    I do feel empathy for the people that rely on the NHL to feed there families though, thats whose side I am on… Other than that I could care less about the NHLPA or the Owners.

  14. xaf605 - Oct 2, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    Agreed 100% sippin

  15. raider2124 - Oct 2, 2012 at 4:58 PM

    If hockey players and owners were smart. They never would have had a lockout years ago. This one may kill the sport in the u.s. Hockey was close to passing the NBA. They screwed themselves

    • chrisvegas - Oct 2, 2012 at 6:56 PM

      Exactly. I’m actually ordering the NBA ticket this year instead of hockey, Even if hockey comes back I’m pissed at the NHL. Also I usually go to 5-6 games a year, I’ll probably just go to Basketball/Football games instead.

  16. chrisvegas - Oct 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    The owners decided to go into a lockout when they could have played this season out and continued to negotiate. I despise the NHL owners. I will not put any of my money into hockey for several years. No more going to games and I’m not ordering the NHL Ticket as I have done for the last 10 years. That is the only way I know how to get them back and voice my displeasure. They take the fans for granted, so lets hit them where it counts. Lets show them that now they truly will lose money, because they allowed their greed to overcome common sense.

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