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	<title>Comments on: NHL, NHLPA to meet Tuesday, continue ignoring the elephant in the room</title>
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		<title>By: joewilliesshnoz</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fire the two bums at the top of both sides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fire the two bums at the top of both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: blomfeld</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RATTUS BETTMUS ? ... RATTUS FEHRUS ? ...

Friends ... as the ardent and zealous LA Kings fan which I am, I implore you to &quot;stand down&quot; from your fears of the so-called doom which these rats are presenting.  I &quot;can and will&quot; assure you that this is nothing more than a bunch of &quot;make believe&quot; ... and therefore as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, we &quot;will&quot; have our beloved game of hockey back before long !  Never forget that there&#039;s a reason why we&#039;re conversing here today in English, as opposed to French or Spanish.  For even when faced with adversity &quot;square in the face&quot; in battle, the British &quot;soldier of foot&quot; would never consider flinching for even a second until the word to &quot;fire&quot; was given.  So let us be likewise, in terms of our feelings towards these fake negotiations.  They&#039;ll be back soon enough, because &quot;they know&quot; that &quot;we know&quot; that they &quot;conditionally&quot; line their pockets with our &quot;unconditional&quot; love for the game !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgL-tfgg7iQ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RATTUS BETTMUS ? &#8230; RATTUS FEHRUS ? &#8230;</p>
<p>Friends &#8230; as the ardent and zealous LA Kings fan which I am, I implore you to &#8220;stand down&#8221; from your fears of the so-called doom which these rats are presenting.  I &#8220;can and will&#8221; assure you that this is nothing more than a bunch of &#8220;make believe&#8221; &#8230; and therefore as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, we &#8220;will&#8221; have our beloved game of hockey back before long !  Never forget that there&#8217;s a reason why we&#8217;re conversing here today in English, as opposed to French or Spanish.  For even when faced with adversity &#8220;square in the face&#8221; in battle, the British &#8220;soldier of foot&#8221; would never consider flinching for even a second until the word to &#8220;fire&#8221; was given.  So let us be likewise, in terms of our feelings towards these fake negotiations.  They&#8217;ll be back soon enough, because &#8220;they know&#8221; that &#8220;we know&#8221; that they &#8220;conditionally&#8221; line their pockets with our &#8220;unconditional&#8221; love for the game !</p>
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		<title>By: larrybiv</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every time my favorite sport picks up a head of steam in popularity here in the U.S.......it shoots itself in the proverbial skates.  A hole in the ice that they just can&#039;t fix with water.  Bettman and colleagues shoot too damned hard, ruin the net, so that NO ONE can play, nor watch.  Compared to the other 3 major sports, their potential for injury is not equal to their salaries.  Lowest paid and higher risk other than football.  Give in Bettman.  I want my NHL HOCKEY!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time my favorite sport picks up a head of steam in popularity here in the U.S&#8230;&#8230;.it shoots itself in the proverbial skates.  A hole in the ice that they just can&#8217;t fix with water.  Bettman and colleagues shoot too damned hard, ruin the net, so that NO ONE can play, nor watch.  Compared to the other 3 major sports, their potential for injury is not equal to their salaries.  Lowest paid and higher risk other than football.  Give in Bettman.  I want my NHL HOCKEY!</p>
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		<title>By: chiadam</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe they should have put aside their copy of &quot;CBA Negotiations for Dummies&quot; and started this months ago. Forget leverage and posturing, because they&#039;re slowly killing the game. The level of hatred for Bettman and his masters is getting out of hand. They might lose fans out of sheer contempt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they should have put aside their copy of &#8220;CBA Negotiations for Dummies&#8221; and started this months ago. Forget leverage and posturing, because they&#8217;re slowly killing the game. The level of hatred for Bettman and his masters is getting out of hand. They might lose fans out of sheer contempt.</p>
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		<title>By: silversun60</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silversun60]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed.  Part of the problem in earlier negotiations was the NHL saying: We want them to take (for arguments sake) 53%.  Then the NHLPA saying: Yeah but their 53% is really 47%.  

At least if they figure out what HRR is, they will be talking about the same numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  Part of the problem in earlier negotiations was the NHL saying: We want them to take (for arguments sake) 53%.  Then the NHLPA saying: Yeah but their 53% is really 47%.  </p>
<p>At least if they figure out what HRR is, they will be talking about the same numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: killerpgh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[killerpgh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 19:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It makes sense to be to do it this way. Why try figuring out a percent if you don&#039;t know what the whole is?  Agreeing to a 50/50 split would be stupid if the owner won&#039;t agree to the same Hockey Related Revenue sharing as last CBA. Figuring out what the &quot;pie&quot; is and than working on what amount each side get seems like the only logical way to start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense to be to do it this way. Why try figuring out a percent if you don&#8217;t know what the whole is?  Agreeing to a 50/50 split would be stupid if the owner won&#8217;t agree to the same Hockey Related Revenue sharing as last CBA. Figuring out what the &#8220;pie&#8221; is and than working on what amount each side get seems like the only logical way to start.</p>
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		<title>By: jimw81</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimw81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 19:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bettman and Jacobs wont start hrr discussions unless players are willing to take 15% paycut. it&#039;s no starters for them.

Adam Proteau @Proteautype
Another source says two men in particular are the chief drivers of the league’s all-or-nothing demands: Gary Bettman and Jeremy Jacobs.

Adam Proteau ‏@Proteautype
Bettman wants a better deal than David Stern got for the NBA; Jacobs – who doesn&#039;t know all players on his own team – just wants more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bettman and Jacobs wont start hrr discussions unless players are willing to take 15% paycut. it&#8217;s no starters for them.</p>
<p>Adam Proteau @Proteautype<br />
Another source says two men in particular are the chief drivers of the league’s all-or-nothing demands: Gary Bettman and Jeremy Jacobs.</p>
<p>Adam Proteau ‏@Proteautype<br />
Bettman wants a better deal than David Stern got for the NBA; Jacobs – who doesn&#8217;t know all players on his own team – just wants more.</p>
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