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		<title>By: 1clumsybear</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1clumsybear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NHL needs new comissioner.  Bettman is verymuch disliked, his stands are rigid and unfair.  He must go away.  Mario and Wayne as owners and explayers need to step up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NHL needs new comissioner.  Bettman is verymuch disliked, his stands are rigid and unfair.  He must go away.  Mario and Wayne as owners and explayers need to step up.</p>
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		<title>By: timmons94</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[timmons94]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[U can make money on hockey in buffalo. Great hockey town. I miss hockey]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U can make money on hockey in buffalo. Great hockey town. I miss hockey</p>
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		<title>By: elemeno89</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elemeno89]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[romney and ryan dislike your fact checking....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>romney and ryan dislike your fact checking&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: thedavesiknowiknow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thedavesiknowiknow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did your research for you. The Sabres have operated in the green 13 of the last 16 seasons (despite more than a few years without playoff games and the millions of revenue per game they generate), and the arena is usually sold out. If you&#039;re bored, I recommend reading &quot;Hop on Pop&quot;: it has lots of pictures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did your research for you. The Sabres have operated in the green 13 of the last 16 seasons (despite more than a few years without playoff games and the millions of revenue per game they generate), and the arena is usually sold out. If you&#8217;re bored, I recommend reading &#8220;Hop on Pop&#8221;: it has lots of pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: jersey77girl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jersey77girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 19:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you notice how no one mentioned the word lockout, or threatened one until Snider didn&#039;t get any new toys to play with this summer?  When Nashville matched the Flyers offer, did Snider figure, &#039;if he isn&#039;t playing for my team, then I&#039;m not supporting his salary&#039; [via the addiitonal revenue sharing the Flyers always end up contributing to].  So now they want the players to pay the salaries of those big stars signed to small market teams that are always on the receiving end of revenue sharing. 

It probably didn&#039;t help any when Columbus gave him a slap in the face trading Nash to Flyers division rival NY.  AFTER we traded them a decent goalie prospect [which they needed badly].  

Doesn&#039;t anyone wonder why NBC, [whose majority share of stock is owned by Comcast -- owner of the Flyers] was legally able to make a deal for television rights for the entire NHL?  Or how convenient it was that such a deal [which ensures NHL owners receive $200 million even if there&#039;s no season] right before the active CBA expired?  It&#039;s almost like Snider was paying-off the other teams to agree to the lockout.  

[The Comcast-NBC merger along with the NBC-NHL deals were supposed to also ensure that Comcast made it&#039;s RSN programming CSN Philly [aka Flyers games] available to competing television programming providers.  They not only didn&#039;t do that, but insisted that DirecTV and DishNetwork BLACKOUT round 1 playoff games from NBC Sports Center and CNBC in Philadelphia during Flyers games - including away games].  
By blacking out viewers in Philly who were unable to receive the game via CSN Philly because they didn&#039;t subcribe to Comcast, Comcast-NBC artifically LOWERED potential viewers, thus lowering potential ratings, thus lowering possible ad revenue, a portion of which would have been considered HRR to be split with the players [and other NHL owners].  By lowering ratings/ad revenues thanks to blacking out potential viewers, they took away possible ad reveue that could have been considered HRR instead turning it into desperate Comcast subscribers, revenue from which is NOT considered HRR.  Why are they allowed to continue doing this?  

Comcast [owner of the Philaelphia Flyers] annual report from 2011 shows over $50 Billion [yup BILLION] in revenues.  Yet they continue to sit here and fight over 10% of the entire league&#039;s $3.3 Billion of revenue that they consider to be &#039;HRR&#039; [EXCLUDES luxury suites AND the 40% of Comcast subscribers the FCC claims would leave Comcast if they made Flyers games available to other television providers]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you notice how no one mentioned the word lockout, or threatened one until Snider didn&#8217;t get any new toys to play with this summer?  When Nashville matched the Flyers offer, did Snider figure, &#8216;if he isn&#8217;t playing for my team, then I&#8217;m not supporting his salary&#8217; [via the addiitonal revenue sharing the Flyers always end up contributing to].  So now they want the players to pay the salaries of those big stars signed to small market teams that are always on the receiving end of revenue sharing. </p>
<p>It probably didn&#8217;t help any when Columbus gave him a slap in the face trading Nash to Flyers division rival NY.  AFTER we traded them a decent goalie prospect [which they needed badly].  </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone wonder why NBC, [whose majority share of stock is owned by Comcast -- owner of the Flyers] was legally able to make a deal for television rights for the entire NHL?  Or how convenient it was that such a deal [which ensures NHL owners receive $200 million even if there's no season] right before the active CBA expired?  It&#8217;s almost like Snider was paying-off the other teams to agree to the lockout.  </p>
<p>[The Comcast-NBC merger along with the NBC-NHL deals were supposed to also ensure that Comcast made it's RSN programming CSN Philly [aka Flyers games] available to competing television programming providers.  They not only didn&#8217;t do that, but insisted that DirecTV and DishNetwork BLACKOUT round 1 playoff games from NBC Sports Center and CNBC in Philadelphia during Flyers games &#8211; including away games].<br />
By blacking out viewers in Philly who were unable to receive the game via CSN Philly because they didn&#8217;t subcribe to Comcast, Comcast-NBC artifically LOWERED potential viewers, thus lowering potential ratings, thus lowering possible ad revenue, a portion of which would have been considered HRR to be split with the players [and other NHL owners].  By lowering ratings/ad revenues thanks to blacking out potential viewers, they took away possible ad reveue that could have been considered HRR instead turning it into desperate Comcast subscribers, revenue from which is NOT considered HRR.  Why are they allowed to continue doing this?  </p>
<p>Comcast [owner of the Philaelphia Flyers] annual report from 2011 shows over $50 Billion [yup BILLION] in revenues.  Yet they continue to sit here and fight over 10% of the entire league&#8217;s $3.3 Billion of revenue that they consider to be &#8216;HRR&#8217; [EXCLUDES luxury suites AND the 40% of Comcast subscribers the FCC claims would leave Comcast if they made Flyers games available to other television providers]</p>
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		<title>By: jersey77girl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jersey77girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The owners ARE making money while locking out the players.  NBC is paying the NHL $200 million for the 2012-13 season regardless of if there is a lockout or not.  And so long as there&#039;s no CBA in place, 100% of the $200 million goes to the NHL owners and 0% of the $200 million [considered HRR] goes to the players.  Why bother fighting over 47 - 57% when the owners can keep 100% of the TV ad revenue so long as they lock the players out of the entire season.  

Better yet, cities like Nashville are paying the NHL owners even MORE money.  On top of the contracted $$ to &#039;manage&#039; the arena, Nashville had to pay an additional $8 million to the predators to help them find alternate entertainment to keep the arena occupied.  If you ask me, hosting a &#039;lockout&#039; shouldn&#039;t be considered a very good way to &#039;manage&#039; an arena for the city and those cities paying out public funds to the owners locking out teams should ask for a refund on their &#039;arena management&#039; fees they&#039;re paying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The owners ARE making money while locking out the players.  NBC is paying the NHL $200 million for the 2012-13 season regardless of if there is a lockout or not.  And so long as there&#8217;s no CBA in place, 100% of the $200 million goes to the NHL owners and 0% of the $200 million [considered HRR] goes to the players.  Why bother fighting over 47 &#8211; 57% when the owners can keep 100% of the TV ad revenue so long as they lock the players out of the entire season.  </p>
<p>Better yet, cities like Nashville are paying the NHL owners even MORE money.  On top of the contracted $$ to &#8216;manage&#8217; the arena, Nashville had to pay an additional $8 million to the predators to help them find alternate entertainment to keep the arena occupied.  If you ask me, hosting a &#8216;lockout&#8217; shouldn&#8217;t be considered a very good way to &#8216;manage&#8217; an arena for the city and those cities paying out public funds to the owners locking out teams should ask for a refund on their &#8216;arena management&#8217; fees they&#8217;re paying.</p>
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		<title>By: flyersfan67</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flyersfan67]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lockout ends if snider, Jacobs and ilitch all decide enough is enough. They run the league, they have the most power and influence, not that idiot bettman, he answers to those three]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lockout ends if snider, Jacobs and ilitch all decide enough is enough. They run the league, they have the most power and influence, not that idiot bettman, he answers to those three</p>
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		<title>By: scionofflame</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scionofflame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not the point of the article. The point of the article is that not every GM is probably &#039;fully on board&#039; with a lockout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the point of the article. The point of the article is that not every GM is probably &#8216;fully on board&#8217; with a lockout.</p>
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		<title>By: scionofflame</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scionofflame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seriously doubt that Nashville owners want a lockout much the same. Nashville is owned by committee with a group of local Nashville business owners, and they all bought the team because they love hockey.

Obviously they&#039;d want a new CBA and to talk over revenue sharing because Nashville -is- a smaller market, but not at the cost of a season when the Predators popularity in the area was just hitting another big swell. Huge loss of momentum for a small market team.

It&#039;s not easy to be the owners that vote &#039;No&#039; against the lockout and then get to sit in the room with everyone that voted &#039;Yes&#039;. I can see gather why it was unanimous to start the lockout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously doubt that Nashville owners want a lockout much the same. Nashville is owned by committee with a group of local Nashville business owners, and they all bought the team because they love hockey.</p>
<p>Obviously they&#8217;d want a new CBA and to talk over revenue sharing because Nashville -is- a smaller market, but not at the cost of a season when the Predators popularity in the area was just hitting another big swell. Huge loss of momentum for a small market team.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not easy to be the owners that vote &#8216;No&#8217; against the lockout and then get to sit in the room with everyone that voted &#8216;Yes&#8217;. I can see gather why it was unanimous to start the lockout.</p>
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		<title>By: jimw81</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimw81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, lenio signing is working out perfectly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lenio signing is working out perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: elemeno89</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elemeno89]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[all sarcasm aside.  i firmly believe that he is one of the owners that has no issue with how things are now.  we all its the big guy in larger markets that are driving up the costs for the smaller markets to keep their players.  like the markets involved with signing shea weber, zack parise, ryan suter, among others...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all sarcasm aside.  i firmly believe that he is one of the owners that has no issue with how things are now.  we all its the big guy in larger markets that are driving up the costs for the smaller markets to keep their players.  like the markets involved with signing shea weber, zack parise, ryan suter, among others&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eberwizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eberwizzle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any fool that buys the Sabers definitely doesn&#039;t care about money]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any fool that buys the Sabers definitely doesn&#8217;t care about money</p>
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