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It’s official — we have a lockout

Sep 16, 2012, 12:01 AM EDT

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The NHL’s collective bargaining agreement expired at 11:59 p.m. ET. With the two sides unable to reach a new agreement and owners unwilling to continue under the old one, the players are now officially locked out.

(Pause for dramatic effect)

This is the league’s fourth work stoppage in the last 20 years and its second in the last seven.

There’s no way of getting around it — today is a bad day for hockey, especially for the fans. Nobody wanted labor unrest to come to this.

But it has, which means it’s time to start the process of acceptance.

The first order of business? Venting! Yes, now is the opportune moment to commiserate and PHT’s comments section is the place to do it. Go ahead and express yourselves (not unlike Madonna. Or, N.W.A.)

Lay blame, share feelings, validate experiences, instill hope, show support, put aside your petty beefs and hey, maybe even express solidarity among folks you normally consider enemies. Looking at you, Flyers and Penguins fans.

As for when this thing might actually end? Here are a few key dates to keep in mind.

Sept. 23: Start of preseason

Oct. 11: Start of regular season

Nov. 23: 2012 Discover NHL Thanksgiving Showdown (Rangers vs. Bruins)

Jan. 1: NHL Winter Classic at Michigan Stadium (Leafs vs. Red Wings)

Jan 24-28: All-Star Weekend in Columbus

Feb. 17: Hockey Day in America (Red Wings vs. Wild, Penguins vs. Sabres, Bruins vs. Blackhawks, Flyers vs. Rangers)

Finally, here are some facts about past NHL work stoppages.

2004-05 lockout: Lasted 310 days, 1,230 games missed. The entire season was lost and it marked the first time since 1919 (flu epidemic) that the Stanley Cup wasn’t awarded. It also marked the first time a major North American sports league lost an entire season to a labor dispute.

1994 lockout: Lasted 104 days, 468 games missed. The season was shortened to 48 games (there was no All-Star game) and the revamped schedule included the regular season extending into May, the first and only time that’s happened in league history. Regular season games were limited to inter-conference play, meaning Eastern Conference teams did not play Western Conference teams.

1992 strike: Lasted 10 days, no games missed. The strike began with 30 games left in the regular season and all 30 were played.

  1. jimw81 - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:03 AM

    • lordfletcher - Sep 16, 2012 at 11:23 AM

      who is going to start the Facebook page for the fans holding out till we get better prices on seats and that the lockout ends soon? If the owners want to play hardball, maybe we should too, LOLOLOL!

      I have been paying over $70 per lower level ticket to the X in Saint Paul (and that number has gone up each season it seems). Decent seats, 11 rows up but nothing insane and or do I see many promo’s from the Wild giving merchandise or game work crapola to me, concession coupons….anything at all. Seeing as we spend almost 15k per year on tickets, I sure would like to have the owners meet the fans half way. With the money the owners make on tickets, TV deals, merchandise, concessions / parking, I find it hard to believe they NEED more and more each 7 years. (major markets more than small) …… I do think the CBA needs to help the ratio get closer to 50/50 but it shouldn’t be this hard for both parties to figure out their differences.

      It sure would be nice to have season start on time, especially here in Minnesota. 😦

      • ninerlover85 - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        I just created a Facebook page – it is called Stay home until NHL ticket prices drop – please like my page and share your thoughts!!!

      • daviddrazul - Sep 17, 2012 at 5:50 PM

        $70 for lower level? You can’t even walk into MSG for less than $80.

  2. jgibson233 - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    I blame Bettman and the owners on this one. FIRE BETTMAN!!

    • frank433 - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:27 AM

      Bettman works for the owners. The owners want the lockout. Bettman doesn’t do a deal his employers don’t want. We have a lockout.
      Why would the owners fire him? He is doing what they want. This isn’t bizarro world where we fire “good” employees. The owners are at fault here. There is nothing that Bettman could do by himself to get a CBA in place. Disagree with anything else he has done, but the lockout isn’t on him, it’s on the owners.

      • stakex - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:57 AM

        See this post right here is everything thats wrong with hockey fans right now. You can have an opinion of who you agree with, or disagree with… you can’t however have your own facts about the situation.

        And the facts would point to the players as the ones who drove this to lockout. Again, that doesn’t mean they don’t have a good reason for it… but it is what it is. Yes, the owners opened up this whole thing with a really agressive offer, but they are also the only side that made a meaningful move from their first offers (coming up from 43% to 49% for the players share). The players on the other hand have dug in on their first offer and keep saying they aren’t moving at all. So really, who is and isn’t doing anything the prevent the lockout?

        I do however agree with you that Bettman is just doing what the owners want him to do. Hes the face everyone targets, but hes a lot more of a figure head then most would think.

    • yashimotohiro - Sep 16, 2012 at 7:34 AM

      But Head MUST GO..This is the 4th work thing in 20 years????

      Once every 5 years Gary brings instability to the Game of Hockey.

      The Players said, we will play in GOOD Faith and Gary said FUG you you stupid Canadians. He HATES Canadians.

      In the last 20 Years NO CANADIAN TEAM has won the Stanley Cup. In the 20 years Before Gary the Canadian Teams won the Cup 14 TIMES!!!!

      1993 Patrick Roy and the Habs were the LAST Canadian Team to win the cup. Put this way, the kids going into College in Canada were not ALIVE since a Canadian Team won the cup.

      Gary is the mast hated American EVER in Canada. what a legacy

  3. kantnockdahustle89 - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    I used to think Bud Selig was the worst commish in the history of sports. Bettman has him beat by 10 fold. How’s that for legacy now you weeviling prick?

    • yashimotohiro - Sep 16, 2012 at 7:38 AM

      I REFUSE to go to see the Sabers ever again. ERIE OTTERS Season Tickets HERE WE COME!!! (OHL) (NHL =NO MORE HOCKEY LOOSERS Gary says under his breath)

      • johninpa - Sep 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM

        Looks like we’ll being seeing the Otters more often as well, rather than making the trip down 79 to Pittsburgh. Just as the NHL is getting more exposure and gaining in popularity, they pull this. By “they”, I blame both sides. Gain fans and you gain money. Turn the fans off, you lose money – and not just now, but for a long time in the future as you decrease your fan base – fewer TV viewers, fewer ticket sales, fewer souvenir sales and so on. The owners take the financial risk and want more, the players supply the product and they want more – I can understand all of that. What I can’t understand is the inability to see the long term view that would demand you grow the sport to gain income. Way to think long term, guys (and way to think of your fans)!

  4. jimw81 - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

    what 3.3 billion dollars? Poof! that’s right Bettman,Daily,Jacobs,Leapoild just made it go away.

    • mpg44 - Sep 16, 2012 at 9:32 AM

      I know my money will never be a part of any amount of revenue again !!

  5. jimw81 - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:17 AM

    btw gary congrats on your first hat trick #94 #04 #12.

    • kitshky - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:29 AM

      3 for 3!!
      3 for 3!!
      3 for 3!!

  6. aventador12 - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    The NHL, sadly, will loose a good percentage of it’s credibility and fan base come next season (if there even is one) after this lockout. It’s sad to realize and watch how people like the owners, players, and league officials, who makes a lot more than what an average person would make in a lifetime, can’t come to an agreement regarding money issues. And them not realizing that an average Joe like us fans who loves and appreciates the sport plays a huge role in their income, revenue and shares, yet still, just try to make ends meet with a regular day job, but still finds time to spare a little extra $$$ just to watch hockey games. Sad. Just sad and pathetic.

  7. mountainmantride - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

    Why the NHL is a joke. Simple Math:

    A little math summary for you hockey fans…last February’s Super Bowl was seen by 111 million people and the World Series and NBA Finals each averaged more than 16 million viewers.

    Now, here’s what we have in the NHL, all feisty and such about their money and contracts and CBA and whatever else…So let’s compare…

    Tampa Bay’s win over Calgary in the 2004 Stanley Cup finals averaged 3.3 million viewers on ABC and ESPN,

    Carolina’s victory over Edmonton in 2006 averaged 2.8 million on NBC and OLN.

    Viewers rose to 5.2 million on NBC and Versus when Chicago beat Philadelphia in 2010. (wow that’s cool, big number eh, 5.2 million. Whew I’m nearly overwhelmed).

    Opps, next year viewership (NHL fans that is, probably you) then fell to 4.6 million on the same networks for Boston’s victory over Vancouver in 2011. Remember hockey fans that series was the “bite series” compliments of dick-head Burrows who actually bit another player’s hand. He bit him. And THAT’S hockey? Come on.

    Oh, oh…and then 3 million on NBC and the NBC Sports Network for Los Angeles’ win over New Jersey this year.

    Sooo now, let’s see just how much a JOKE the NHL really is (recap)…just for comparison with other leagues, last February’s Super Bowl was seen by 111 million people and the World Series and NBA Finals each averaged more than 16 million viewers.

    So let me get this straight: the players and owners are all in an uproar over a few million bucks. Whatever. Please, people move on. The NFL has some great games this weekend. Quit giving these idiots your time and money. It’s time. Really. It’s time. Change the channel. I know, I know it hurts to learn the truth. But it is time to move on from the this silly stuff. Come on now. Move on. The owners and players don’t give a rats “butt” about you. It’s time. Move on. Watch something else until these morons get a grip on the MATH. Duh.

    • phillyphever - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:24 AM

      This guy in real life.

      • mountainmantride - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:20 AM

        And, this just in…Burrows signs $18 million extension! OMG this can’t get any more hilarious. Vancouver fans will pay $4.5 mil per year for this guy. Whoa. You NHL fans are far more funny than that dude in the video. $18 mil. Christ I’m splitting at the seams. Dang, Bettman is right. You NHL fans will pay anything to watch this crap. You go girls.

    • stakex - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:01 AM

      So let me get this strait. You came here to whine about a sport you don’t even like? Wow… it must be nice to have no life and a ton of free time.

      Anyway, I prefer to watch an exciting sport… so I’ll wait for hockey.

      • mountainmantride - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:09 AM

        Been a hockey fan for 30 years my friend. And have watched this sport become the laughing stock of sports. Frustrating as it is. The MATH is what it is and the point is that FANS keep paying for this BS. Once the owners and players realize that the sport is small, and that the FANS pay the way they’d be best to shut up and put the game on the ice. ‘Till then, it’s off to the NFL. And the VAST majority of sports fans in the USA agree. Do the MATH dude.

    • bdawk20 - Sep 16, 2012 at 7:03 AM

      Just because not as many people like hockey as do other sports does not validate your “math”. People love hockey, some don’t. The NBA and NFL appeal to a wider variety of fan considering the makeup of our country, but that doesn’t diminish the sport…

      • mountainmantride - Sep 16, 2012 at 11:00 PM

        Yes it does validate my math. In fact more importantly (and to MY POINT) it validates that the NHL players and owners going on strike again is ridiculous. The NHL is a very small sport in terms of fans (TV viewers) yet both the players and owners act like this NHL thing is the second coming. My “math” and my point diminishes YOU, the fan. My point is that the fans need to demand that the players and owners put the game on the ice The players and owners need to QUIT yakking about a few million bucks when the BOTH make outrageous amounts of money for a very small sport. At the end of the day the players and owners should be freakin’ thankful that there are people who keep paying for this stuff. Hockey is a good game, it’s fun to watch. BUT. But, when the owners and players keep going on strike to spit the money from a very small fan base they are asking for trouble. I say, AGAIN, hockey fans take your money and go to another sport. This hockey thing is a joke and the joke’s on YOU.

    • mpg44 - Sep 16, 2012 at 9:38 AM

      But football is really boring to watch. They stand around for 40 seconds and then play for 15 seconds . Only to hen stand around again for 40 seconds. No thanks , I would rather go support minor league hockey or even junior league hockey, a real sport played by men who have a ton of heart

      • mountainmantride - Sep 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

        Yes, that’s my point. Support college hockey. Support junior hockey. Support a sport where the players and owners have heart. But hockey fans continue to support this stupidity. The Burrows contract. The Suter deal in Minny. The mulitude of third and fourth liners who are making a lot of money for playing a few shifts a game. So the owners and players want MORE money from YOU. If you support college, junior and local hockey and QUIT spending money and supporting this joke that has become the NHL you will send a powerful message to the owners and players.

  8. heavymetalhockey - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:20 AM

    My anger is that of a thousand thousand red hot suns. The walls of the cosmos tremble at the sheer magnitude of my frenzied roars of rage. The force with which a thrust of my clenched fists pierces a starless sky shatters worlds and breaks the veil of night. The pure hate that burns at the center of my being consumes all of creation, leaving naught but a supermassive black hole that seeks only to destroy. A void within, teeming with the gaseous remnants of the celestial, as it rips matter apart atom by atom. All that remains is emptiness. Silence.

    For the love of hockey.

    • titknocker - Sep 16, 2012 at 8:29 AM

      Quite the imagination you have there. Must of been some good mushrooms you ingested there.

    • johninpa - Sep 16, 2012 at 11:13 AM

      If that doesn’t express the frustration us hockey fans are feeling right now, nothing does.

  9. caps247 - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    Wake me up when the lockout ends.

  10. phillyphever - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    Great, there goes my only relief from the Eagles. Again, why is Bettman still the commissioner? What has he done to still have this job?

    • andyreidsbuffet - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:58 AM

      Hey don’t forget about those Phils. Great effort tonight against a true contending team.

      • heavymetalhockey - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:08 AM

        Great game, they showed a lot of heart.

        The Eagles have a tr00 #1 elite QB. Super Bowl bound, for sure.

  11. pariseinminnesotabichez - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    Bettman can suck a dick

    • heavymetalhockey - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:37 AM

      He’s already sucking 30.

  12. mrdrewstone - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM

    I know I’m only 1 person, but f u NHL and Gary, I will spend my $ in other places. Greedy f’n owners, stop crying poverty!!

  13. andyreidsbuffet - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    Snider, Jacobs, and Bettman, THE UNHOLY TRINITY

  14. andyreidsbuffet - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    These 3 clowns belong in the lake of fire and sulphur

  15. gilmour93woo - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:50 AM


  16. islesbro19 - Sep 16, 2012 at 12:54 AM

    Im a season ticketholder for the islanders and i was getting ready for a season where the islanders had the pieces to make the playoffs. Then we have another lockout. This sport isn’t worth my time anymore

  17. therealjr - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    I understand the doom and gloom, but I’m saving my anger for missed games. Wake me on October 11.

  18. barkar942 - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:18 AM

    MOVE ON!

  19. ninerlover85 - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:24 AM

    I have been blasting on Twitter all night!! Nobody has sympathy for millionaires – or billionaires – on strike. Now they can all fly to Cabo and sulk, while waiting for their 5 digit weekly checks to roll in again. What about the people who just lost their jobs – and possibly their homes? – because of all of this… Wealthy people do not fraternize with normal people, and I’ll bet most of these people we’re mad at do not personally know anyone who has been laid off, lost their jobs, and been stuck on unemployment (or worse!). Well, as a former Hartford Whaler season ticket holder, and after 4 strikes/lockouts, these people have piddled in my Cheerios for the last time. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!!!

    On Twitter, my name is Whalerlady, and I am trying to start a fan movement. This entire country’s been overvalued and subsequently devalued over the last 15 years. Fans (most of whom are struggling in this economy) should not have to choose between hockey tickets and normal weekly expenditures. So, let’s see if we can make the NHL roll their ticket prices back, like all of our homes’ values and our salaries have been!! If you like this idea, please tweet #NHLFANSTRIKE or #STAYHOMEUNTILNHLTICKETPRICESDROP – or write a letter to someone in a position to publish it.

    WE PAY THEIR SALARIES – the players’ salaries AND the owners’ salaries. We can make a difference if we try hard enough.

    Thank you all for reading this, and putting up with me. Time for more beer, and KHL updates. (end rant)

    • ninerlover85 - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:55 PM

      I just created a Facebook page – it is called Stay home until NHL ticket prices drop – please like my page and share your thoughts!!!

  20. snowman218 - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:26 AM

    Question … … Since there is a Lockout, can I still play NHL 97′ on my PS 1, or is that Disallowed .. ?

    • hockeydon10 - Sep 16, 2012 at 8:00 AM

      Yes, but not ’94, ’04, or ’12

      • snowman218 - Sep 16, 2012 at 11:15 AM

        you mean ’13, which I will not be buying

  21. grudenthediva - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:50 AM

    This doesn’t apply to everyone, but I’ve been getting a kick out of some of the people crying about how the owners need to quit being so greedy, how they need to share, think of the poor fans, etc.

    Then they pimp Romney/Ryan LOL

    • hockeyflow33 - Sep 16, 2012 at 1:58 AM

      The two have nothing to do with each other.

      Also, using lol past the age of 12 is embarrassing

      • stakex - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM

        Actually if you know anything about politics, and the crap Romney/Ryan plan to do… grudenthediva makes a good point.

  22. stakex - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:23 AM

    I actually find it quite sad how so many fans are dug in on blaming one side or the other without looking at the whole picture.

    For example, the majority of the blame seems to be directed firmly at the owners. However, the players have moved off their original position less then the owners have and have themselves made no serious effort to avoid the lockout. It really does take two to tango in this situation, and the players should not be given a free pass. I mean lets face the facts: The players are going to lose this fight in the end… or at the very least will have to give some serious ground. The owners are simply not going to meet the players where they have currently dug their heels in. Is that fair for the players? Not really… but thats the way it is.

    Now before anyone says “But the players signed these deals with the owners, and expect to get that money!”, that not really true. They have all known the CBA expired this year, and only an idiot would have thought a cut in player revenue wasn’t going to be on the table (and will be part of a final, I promis). So they all signed these deals knowing damn well they might be altered in the CBA talks… so its kinda shady and disingenuous for them to dig in their heels on this topic and whine about it now.

    In the end, we’re all going to miss hockey later this year because one bunch of millionairs are fighting with another bunch of millionaires about how to split up a small portion of their $3.3 billion. When I look at it like that, its hard to side with any of them. Its greed all the way around, and its not just the owners, or the players, or Bettman (its really not Bettman at all, despite him being the one taking most of the heat from fans). Its all of them.

    • heavymetalhockey - Sep 16, 2012 at 3:02 AM

      I agree, both sides deserve blame. Personally, I direct much of my anger towards Gary Bettman. What got me the most upset throughout this whole ordeal was his total failure to maintain the well-being of the NHL.

      I liken the duties of a league commissioner to those of a CEO of a major company. Chief among them is to ensure the growth of the league/company and maintain its stability. So I wonder, what has Gary Bettman done in that respect? To take measures that grow the fanbase and bring the sport into relevancy, only to take it out back and shoot it ten times in the head is tragic.

      Bettman has now overseen THREE work stoppages during his tenure. In what universe is that remotely acceptable? Professional sports is an entertainment industry; by failing to produce a product for your consumers, you only succeed in driving them away. Not to mention, this is perhaps the worst possible time to lock out your players for reasons that don’t need repeating.

      In my own fantasy land I like to dream that the Board of Governors would take a “vote of no confidence” and kick GB out. A man can dream.

    • hockeydon10 - Sep 16, 2012 at 8:03 AM

      The players moved from “let’s continue to play under the expiring CBA where we get 57%” to an offer that has their share drop down to 52.3% over a few years, with more room left to negotiate.

      What part are they not budging on? Handing over immediate kickbacks to the owners, allowing the owners to reneg on the contracts they signed the players to.

  23. mrpickled - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:26 AM

    A’s Giants 49ers………. Suck it east coast

  24. turtlematt18 - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:51 AM

    Bettman is a joke. If he cared about the game like a commissioner is supposed to he would drag the two sides together whatever way possible instead of throwing that idiotic smile of his around.

  25. blomfeld - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:52 AM

    BETTMAN ROCKS ! … GO LOCKOUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

    Hey man, it sure does feel like Christmas eve tonight, eh ? Nothing could be funnier, with rats screwing rats and even more rats getting burned in the process ! The bottom line is that the little, slimy “New York” weasel known as Bettman, is now going to get his stupid “sunbelt” experiment shoved right up his own ass ! Now I don’t know about you guys, but for me personally, I seriously love when things like this happen ! … it’s like, “good times … hey man, how’s it going ?” Hopefully and God willing, this lockout will go on for many years and then some …

    the NHL seriously rocks man !!!!!!

  26. turtlematt18 - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:56 AM

    The owners have brass ones to lock out the players when they are the ones to blame in offering such outrageous contracts. If I was offered the offer sheet that Shea Weber got from the Flyers I wouldn’t say no either then the Predators match it come on.
    Thanks Bettman and the Nhl for screwing us fans once again.

  27. 4cornersfan - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:59 AM

    Compared to other major sports leagues hockey is at least marginal, and probably 3rd tier, ranking below college football and basketball. Instead of attempting to expand what is essentially a regional sport that is not especially suited for TV and corporate sponsorship in its present form, the owners and players have been locked in a death match while their fan base is unhappy and dissolving. Pro football and baseball learned their lessons about lockouts and strikes and have prospered through cooperation between ownership and labor. Pro hockey appears to be poised to take its place with lacrosse and softball as a very minor sport.

  28. aventador12 - Sep 16, 2012 at 3:28 AM

    3 lockouts in his tenure as an NHL commissioner? Talk about a “Hat-Trick” taken to an extreme level. FAIL!

  29. mungman69 - Sep 16, 2012 at 3:29 AM

    The players AND the owners lose here. The only winners are the fans who save their money. Now, instead of throwing their money away on hockey games the fans can use their money for more useful purposes.

  30. mungman69 - Sep 16, 2012 at 5:55 AM

    Hey, aren’t the owners losing money now also? Is owning a pro hockey team just a sideline, you know, a hobby, for most of these rich owners? Don’t major companies like Comcast own a lot of these teams?

  31. gibbskins9 - Sep 16, 2012 at 6:51 AM

    No regard for the fans, I’m done with hockey forever, hope the sport folds

  32. jaybird22seven - Sep 16, 2012 at 7:19 AM

    It’s time to scrap the NHL and start a WHL ( World Hockey League ). Where you play on a team from which country you were born. Six Canadian teams with only Canadian players. Six American teams with just Americans. A couple Russian, Swedish, And Finland teams. Oh and I forgot no Gary “Pinhead” Bettman to kill hockey !!!!!!!

  33. zeus1973 - Sep 16, 2012 at 8:10 AM

    F…%&#! Bettman and all the owners!!!…

  34. rpiotr01 - Sep 16, 2012 at 8:24 AM

    This lock-out is 100% on the owners. Players would have been willing to move on percentage of revenue, no question, but that isn’t enough for these greedy, stupid slimeballs. The low ball percentage offer, the mandatory give-backs – just think of the gall of that for one moment! Owners have been signing players to contracts that they have no intention of honoring! What kind of people are these?

    These was never an honest negotiation on the owners’ part. They knew from the start they were asking for something that no self-respecting union would give without a fight.

    These guys are so undeserving of the loyalty of hockey fans it makes me sick, but the truth is, we love the GAME. Not the owners, not even our teams. We love the GAME, and we’ll be back to watch it.

  35. mclovinhockey - Sep 16, 2012 at 8:39 AM

    I think I ate too much Mexican food, I got to take a huge Gary Bettmen right now.

  36. ducksk - Sep 16, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Thanks NHL for being such role models. Try explaining this to 3 sons who love hockey. You can all kiss my anus. All of you greedy $ hungry goons.

  37. capsfan19 - Sep 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Hmmmmmm thank god for international
    soccer. Ha there would be riots if there was a lockout in europe. Owners can get away with anything here.

  38. ducksk - Sep 16, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Most players barely have a high school education level. Avg 3 million a year. Loosing 10 million to most owners is chump change and a write off anyway. Most fans are pissed this morning and head to work for jobs that suck to get by to buy a ticket and a sweater. Not this one anymore.

  39. capsrockva - Sep 16, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Get the dam deal done so no games are missed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope CSNWashington will air Hershey bears games if there is no capitals games this season

  40. 4ahlbears - Sep 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    And to think I look forward to PAYING 18 dollars every Friday night to play the game I love.

  41. deadrabbit79 - Sep 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Said it before and will say it again. I will turn my attention to the OFFICIAL new 4th sport……Soccer. There is always plenty of MLS and Barclays Premier League on.

  42. phillyphannn83 - Sep 16, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    ” Lay blame, share feelings, validate experiences, instill hope, show support, put aside your petty beefs and hey, maybe even express solidarity among folks you normally consider enemies. Looking at you, Flyers and Penguins fans.”

    NEVER!!!! That’s blasphemy!!!!!

  43. kalfut321 - Sep 16, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Bring on the American Hockey League more fan friendly. Less expensive to attend. Far more entertaining than watching overpriced players and stupid owners. cry about a few million $$$. Oh yeah fire the commissioner and find some one with the balls to stand up to both sides

  44. redwingsfan999 - Sep 16, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    Pathetic, thats all there is to say

  45. redwingsfan999 - Sep 16, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    Let’s just hope there’s a season by November

  46. phillyphannn83 - Sep 16, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    mountianmantride, no one is forcing you to watch hockey. If you don’t like the sport then just forget about it. As the numbers you posted prove, alot of other people already have. But those of us that love the sport still have a right to enjoy it. Hockey isn’t my favorite sport but it is by FAR the best sport to watch live.

  47. kreidersauce - Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    This is absolutely almost all on the owners heads.

    Its a lockout, not a strike. The players are perfectly willing to continue to play under the old CBA which saw the league generate record revenues last season. The problem is that only some teams are making money. That is a revenue sharing issue. However instead of addressing how the league shares revenue (like the players proposal attempts to do) the owners are trying to apply a temporary fix by lowering the cap, which even if they succeed will just put them back in a lockout scenario when the next CBA expires. Furthermore its atrocious that the owners driving the bus on this (Jacobs, Snyder) are the owners of the teams that are signing guys to ridiculous offer sheets and 6 year extensions while the league pushes for a 5 year limit.

    My proposal is that whatever percentage the cap ends up dropping should also be applied to a ticket price reduction. However the owners are too dumb and greedy to ever do that.

  48. manchestermiracle - Sep 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    As a fan of the defending SC champs I must say I’m quite disappointed, but not surprised. I am a bit surprised to read that some of you (and not just the fringe element) have made the decision to stop spending your hard-earned dough on these prima donnas. I’m just hoping you maintain that attitude through at least a couple of weeks of the new season (if they even have one). That would be the kind of message these trolls understand.

  49. blastardo - Sep 16, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    I’ve only been a fan of NHL since the last lockout but I’m still as disappointed as everyone else.

    I don’t know where the owners or the NHLPA get the idea that they have leverage against the other side because neither truly care about the lockout. Players have other means of playing hockey while the owners refuse to continue with the current CBA due to financial concerns.

    Bettman and Daly shouldn’t be allowed to run a lemonade stand, let alone the NHL.

  50. hockeylifenow - Sep 16, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    Join my facbook group “no lockout nhl” lets get a huge fan response and show the nhl and nhlpa our passion and love for the game!

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