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Report: Philly talking Subban trade with Montreal

Sep 12, 2012, 12:25 PM EDT

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Some curious news out of Montreal — according to RDS’ Bertrand Raymond, the Canadiens have had discussions with Philadelphia about the availability of P.K. Subban.

Subban, 23, is an RFA that’s spent the entire summer negotiating a new contract. An earlier report from TSN claimed the Canadiens had offered a two-year, $5.5 million deal for the speedy defenseman — one that Subban’s camp rejected — and talk from both sides throughout the offseason has been of the “we’re working on it” and “hopefully something will get done soon” variety.

According to Raymond, that narrative may have changed.

From RDS (translated):

There have been talks with the Philadelphia Flyers about his controversial defender, a thoroughbred that will always be hard to tame and whose attitude could possibly irritate [head coach Michel] Therrien…

…Presumably, the Flyers took the lead in trying to inquire about the status of the Subban. Is it available in the event that the offer is interesting enough [for] Montreal? Who knows how things happened between the two teams? Certainly they have chatted.

It’s not overly surprising Philly would make a play for Subban, especially after submitting a 14-year, $110 million offer sheet to Nashville’s Shea Weber, a deal the Preds eventually matched.

The Flyers need defensemen — they’ll likely start the season  without Chris Pronger (concussion), Andrej Meszaros (Achilles) and Andreas Lilja (hip) — and have been unabashedly bold in their pursuit of talent.

There’s also a sense of immediacy from the organization. As Raymond points out in his piece, Flyers owner Ed Snider is almost 80 years old and his recent investments (paying huge for Ilya Bryzgalov chief among them) suggest he wants a run at the Stanley Cup, and wants it soon.

  1. capesouth - Sep 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    It could work…he would need to cut the diving stuff out of his game. Would be dumb of the Habs though, unless they get a ridiculous haul in return.

  2. tomnickle - Sep 12, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Google translate is terrible.

  3. flyeredup202 - Sep 12, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Not sure if he fixes what the flyers need….. We need a STRONG stay at home d man that can move the puck and take the body…. Granted he can move the puck and this maybe my ignorance coming into play with him but can he hit? I only remember him being a diver and another body out there to irritate the other team? Comments welcome!

    • chrisvegas - Sep 12, 2012 at 2:08 PM

      Subban would be a great fit for Philly. Everyone hates him so he would relish his role on the Flyers. All the immature crap is just that. The kid is 23 he will grow up. Everyone always expects to much from young defenseman. I think he would be a great fit and the fact that he is young means that he cane grow with the rest of the teammates there. The only question is what would philly have to give up, because I wouldn’t trade any of those young guns except for maybe Read. The other guys are worth more then Subban in my opinion,

  4. mclovinhockey - Sep 12, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    Actually the habs don’t want to give him a decent amount of money for a decent number of years. Philly can give him a 5 year deal at about 4 mill a year and the habs won’t want to match it.

  5. mclovinhockey - Sep 12, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Oh yeah he can hit… Watch his hit on Marchand on YouTube. He creamed his corn. Only problems are he is cheap, dives and turns the puck over.

  6. bcjim - Sep 12, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    Bad move for Philly. Why would they wan to lose the respect and good-will of all NHL fans and risk their fine reputation by signing this classless disrespectful dive- Oh wait… No, make perfect sense.

  7. illcomm - Sep 12, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Subban has more class than Crosby n could whack him around during the season. We need dirty players to compete with the NHL sponsored team of Pittsburgh.

    • nach0mancandysandwich - Sep 12, 2012 at 3:04 PM

      Are you serious? Have you ever seen any of the other teams in the league?

    • nach0mancandysandwich - Sep 12, 2012 at 3:07 PM

      Sorry wrong post I have no idea what happened there haha

  8. lvshark22 - Sep 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    If they land him and all their D get healthy then the Flyers will have the best core in the game

  9. mclovinhockey - Sep 12, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Subban also is a free agent next offseason IF he does not sign, and with the possibility of a lockout top RFA’s like PK and Kane could just wait it out.

  10. sjsharks66 - Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Watch the video of letang diving on Subban. That was awesome. Subban is a punk.

    • bmscalise - Sep 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM

      Be careful using the word “dive” around here. He tackled him. And it was hilarious. Apparently Philly’s approach is to collect every tool in the league to get under the Pens skin – regardless of their mediocre skill set.

  11. theawesomersfranchise - Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Unreal set of skills Subban possess
    Unfortunately he also has words like….
    Unsportsmanlike conduct attached to him
    Understandably though coaches and GM’s think they can coach him up to his potential
    Underachieving players usually get a wake up call after their first trade so if this goes down Subban will
    Undoubtedly if he becomes a Flyer he will become a fan favourite in short time

  12. mclovinhockey - Sep 12, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    What was awesome about it? Subban hit Malkin twice, then pushed him and letang jumped him. I already said Subban is dirty, letang is not perfect, last playoffs he was just as bad as Neal, Crosby and Malkin with the diving and cheap shots… Used to love Malkin Neal and Letang as well but lost respect for them.

  13. blackholeson21 - Sep 12, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Welcome to the dark side. We have epic gingers. LOL!
    I hate Subban and have loved watching him play for the Habs and hope the Flyers aren’t thinking of trading anything more than prospects or draft picks. Subban does have an upside of being young with some experience.
    Why do they say the Flyers will likely start the season without Pronger, Lilja, and Mezsaros? Is there some chance one of them will be ready if there is no lockout? If that is the case, why trade for Subban?
    I think the word likely does not mean what you think it means.
    Maybe you should say highly unlikely that Pronger will ever play again, or that Lilja will play before December, or that Meszaros will play at all unless the Flyers make it deep into the playoffs.

  14. bcisleman - Sep 12, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    We are really desperate for hockey “news”, aren’t we? Undoubtedly the “story” is simply Philly making an inquiry that I am sure MTL rejected. Unless MTL has idiots for management again, it wont happen.

    • kmacle - Sep 12, 2012 at 3:29 PM

      “Unless MTL has idiots for management ”
      Did you miss the Kaberle trade?

      • mclovinhockey - Sep 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

        they have new management.

  15. pens5829 - Sep 12, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Hilarious. This articles mentions absolutely nothing about the Penguins, Crosby, Malkin, or Letang, yet mclovinhockey and illcomm still have this fetish with Pittsburgh. Kind creepy…

    • mclovinhockey - Sep 12, 2012 at 7:56 PM

      ??? did you miss the other comments about the pens?? it was a response. glad to see you are paying attention.

  16. habsflop - Sep 12, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    I think Subban has a ton of upside, he needs a solid veteran to look up to keep him under control. I truly believe Montreal is not the place for him, he buys into the diving and flopping they teach there and it hurts his game. IF he were to play alongside a Weber, Chara or Pronger he would learn a lot and become a top d-man in this league. Will not happen in MTL

  17. ricepilof - Sep 12, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    whoa, shocker! Philly is looking to trade players. OMG OMG. This might make them a little better but c’mon now, this guy fought Brad Marchand and that fight was a tie. He does have some killer hip checks, but still won’t make Philly any better than they were at anytime in the past few years.

  18. malkinrulez - Sep 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    Philly fans can’t stop thinking about the Pens! # jealousy

  19. id4joey - Sep 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Personally, I don’t believe this clown Bertrand Raymond. This guy is always working the same angle. He’s probably spinning this to promote trading an English player for a French one.

  20. phillyphan83 - Sep 12, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Shows how smart you pens fans are, mclovinhockey is a PENS FAN! You must be new here if you don’t know that.

    • mclovinhockey - Sep 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

      actually I hate the pens, I am a hockey fan first, then a flyers fan. Just because I post my comments unbiasedly is not a reason to act like an idiot.

  21. icelovinbrotha215 - Sep 12, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Holla at ya boy when ya see him in the streets. Ah, you know I’m loving this talk.

  22. jkaflagg - Sep 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    Think the ‘conversation’ would go something like this:

    Canadiens: any deal must include Schenn or Couturier….

    Flyers: see ya later…..

  23. phil5111 - Sep 13, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    He is a perfect fit for the Flyers and their fans. He is a punk, he dives, hacks, wacks after the play, complains. Perfect fit.

  24. csilojohnson - Sep 13, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    Would make a lot of sense. Dirtiest player in league going to a classless org. like Philthy.

  25. joewilliesshnoz - Sep 14, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Another cheap shot artist for coach Lav’s gutless style of hockey.

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