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Jets captain Ladd: Owners made “pretty low-ball offer”

Sep 10, 2012, 4:31 PM EDT

Andrew Ladd AP

On Monday, Andrew Ladd made it perfectly clear what he thought of the owner’s offer for a new collective bargaining agreement.

“Our offer is more on track than theirs and theirs was a pretty low-ball offer to start off with,” he told the Winnipeg Sun. “They haven’t really made any concessions so far.”

In what’s quickly becoming a negotiation where both sides are rallying the troops and digging in their heels, Ladd said the players’ union is as strong as ever — and put the stalled talks on the shoulders of the owners.

“If they didn’t start so low, maybe it would be easier to keep those discussions going,” he said. “We seem to be at an impasse right now. Everyone is kind of drawing a line in the sand and we don’t feel comfortable moving from where we are until they move a lot more.”

Ladd is a key voice in the current negotiations. He’s the Jets’ captain and one of the players set to go to New York this week for Wednesday/Thursday NHLPA meetings.

Ladd is also familiar with the framework of a lockout — the fourth overall pick in 2004, Ladd was sent back to WHL Calgary during the last lockout, which allowed him to participate with Team Canada’s gold medal-winning side at the 2005 World Juniors.

  1. bcsteele - Sep 10, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    I believe this is why I, along with loads of other people, are with the players. It’s not really that the owners asked for more, but SO much more. I understand where both sides are coming from, but you have to be reasonable. I thought the player’s offer was reasonable, while I couldn’t say the same thing about the owner’s proposal.

    Doesn’t matter though, at the end of the day they need to meet in the middle and get something done. Otherwise everybody is going to hurt…the owners, the players, and most importantly in my eyes…the fans.

  2. loinstache - Sep 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    It’s pretty easy to sympathize with players when we hear a lot of communication on their stance and why they aren’t pleased. Meanwhile the owners side has Gary ‘it’s not enough’ Bettman and evasive tight-lipped owners.

    • somekat - Sep 10, 2012 at 7:06 PM

      eh, it’s easy to sympathize with the players, because you want to. The owners first offer was ridiculous, that is a given. The one they made less than a week later, was much more reasonable. The players on the other hand, fire back with “share more revenue”. So in their minds, the fix is “all the owers make less money”, what business would decide that is a good idea? Easy answer, none.

      When players are above 55% income in any league, the system is broken. Players should not be getting half of income (not profits, income, huge difference), period. They do nothing but make money in the NHL, no financial risk for them whatsoever. Exactly the opposite. A player is probably making 10x (for a minimum player, more like 100x for a top player) than they would ever make doing anything else, and the only chance they have to lose money is their own bad decisions.

      The fact that people think the owners should be willing to take losses every year for the honor of owning a NHL franchise is amazing to me. Is it the owers fault the system is as broken as it is? Yes, in large part, but the players have a large part too. When the system is broken, this is the time to fix it. I’m not surprised the people who are getting the better end of the deal now aren’t happy about it.

      NHL teams are a business like any other from the owners standpoint, and they will be treated as such. People don’t spend hundreds of millions of dollars on teams so they can lost 10-15 every year, they do it to make money. The Cuban types that are doing it for their own ego reasons are few and far between.

      • lostpuppysyndrome - Sep 10, 2012 at 10:58 PM

        Well said.

  3. acieu - Sep 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    Agree with Somekat

  4. sampulls - Sep 10, 2012 at 9:50 PM

    I am a fan of Ladd’s but when teams are losing money…something h to give.

    • vanfoodman - Sep 11, 2012 at 2:42 AM

      FYI, as a league, the NHL made $3.3 BILLION last year. Yes, I said BILLION!!!

  5. vanfoodman - Sep 11, 2012 at 2:44 AM

    Yeah, poor owners, only made $3.3 BILLION DOLLARS last year. That’s BILLION with a B.

    • tealwithit - Sep 12, 2012 at 1:41 AM

      If you don’t know the difference between revenue and profit (gross vs. net), Google will tell you.

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