Comments on: Would NHL lockout violate Quebec labor laws?

By: somekat

somekat — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:34:12 +0000

although you are correct where it was founded, the NHL is in fact an American orginaization, they did it for tax purposes long ago (specifically, to save the canadian teams from ridiculous federal tax rates). But you are correct that they have to honor local labor laws, unless they have a waiver saying otherwise.

Also, using Wikipedia as a source is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen. I can go there right now and change Bettmans page to say he died in a tragic circus midget accident

By: tatdue

tatdue — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:54:04 +0000

Oh phillyphannn83, ye of little knowledge, Wikipedia is free try it out – the NHL is an organization (or franchise) – each team is its own company and even though the NHL’s headquarters is in New York, the NHL was founded on November 26, 1917, in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Furthermore since each team is its own company each team must abide by the labor laws which apply to each teams location….If it was an American business what you are saying still makes no sense what so ever….McDonalds is an American business so does that mean that the franchises all over the world don’t have to abide by the labor laws of the countries they’re located in?

By: atwatercrushesokoye

atwatercrushesokoye — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:48:15 +0000

They have to pay them and provide them with full benefits though.

By: atwatercrushesokoye

atwatercrushesokoye — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:46:41 +0000

Seriously? So when you travel to foreign countries do you demand the locals follow your American rights and rules?

Despite what you seem to think when a company expands to a new location it’s up to them to follow the local laws not up to the new location to adopt to the laws of that foreign entity. Take Honda for example, it’s a Japanese company, would it be acceptable for them to demand all of their American employees work 60+ hours a week (no overtime) because that’s what Japanese laws allow?

As for the arguement “so what? They don’t have to hold games or practices” technically I guess that’s true but no lockout means that they have to honor the contracts of all of those players meaning there will be full pay and full benefits. Also they would possibly be setting themselves up for breach of contract lawsuits with Sportsnet, TSN, and CBC, they sold tv rights to these companies promising them games to televise except if there’s a lockout, but there won’t be a lockout in those areas yet the NHL won’t be providing them with a product to televise.

By: hystoracle

hystoracle — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:12:16 +0000

Except Toronto and Ottawa. That leaves Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal, Winnipeg. Woohoo 5 team league.. like the original six but without the US exposure. .. Not going to happen. They may not be able to lock them out of the building, but the teams don’t have to play any games or hold practices.

By: hystoracle

hystoracle — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:07:02 +0000

That is the current mindset in American Politics. HE who shouts the loudest wins regardless of the validity and factual accuracy of their argument.

Still, I don’t see the league playing games with just 3 or 4 teams.. That would be ridiculous.

By: mclovinhockey

mclovinhockey — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:44:35 +0000

Oh and one last thing, why are you idiots being such, well idiots, they are trying to make it so there is no possible way there can be a lockout. They are fighting the owners, why act like they are idiots when they are in the right?

By: mclovinhockey

mclovinhockey — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:40:22 +0000

Yeah, kinda odd this is not the only place in Canada. Oh and I am a flyers fan but a hockey fan first, I know hockey was created in Quebec, it started in Montreal at a college and was played with 8 or 9 players on the ice per side and with a square puck. If anyplace deserves to have a say in this its Quebec.

By: id4joey

id4joey — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:05:47 +0000

That’s right! Quebec isn’t the first. Furthermore, every team based in Canada will be doing the same. Why single out Quebec? Or any other province for that matter. This tactic is clearly driven by the NHLPA.

By: kitshky

kitshky — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:50:02 +0000

You do realize that Quebec isn’t even the first jurisdiction to attempt this right?

By: kitshky

kitshky — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:45:18 +0000

Last time I checked, there’s very little more entertaining than watching someone throw themselves face forward and wholeheartedly into a point or an opinion … without the slightest factual basis.

“HOW CAN YOU ARGUE WITH ME I’M CLEARLY CORRECT LOOK HOW LOUDLY I AM TALKING”

By: phillyphannn83

phillyphannn83 — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:48:20 +0000

Funny, I don’t remember the NHL being a Canadian company. Last I checked, its registered with the American government as an American business with franchises in Canada, meaning local LABOR boards have no jurisdiction in the matter.

By: guitarmy204

guitarmy204 — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 02:45:53 +0000

Quebec always has to have a say in everything.