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Parise: “Gary’s pretty adamant about his third lockout of his tenure”

Aug 29, 2012, 3:19 PM EDT

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We haven’t really heard any real strong words from anyone on either side of this summer’s labor talks. That is until Zach Parise decided to speak his mind.

Parise spoke with Ben Goessling of the St. Paul Pioneer Press and says while the players are eager to get a deal done and play, he feels NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman has another aim entirely.

“I think the ’04-’05 season is still pretty fresh in everyone’s minds, and now we find ourselves in the same position,” Parise said after a workout in St. Louis Park on Tuesday, Aug. 26. “It’s not good for the game. It’s not good for anyone. We’re ready to play. We want to play. But (NHL commissioner) Gary (Bettman)’s pretty adamant about his third lockout of his tenure.”

There’s a lot of truth in what Parise is saying there, but you have to wonder what his logic is in trashing the league’s boss. To say Bettman is “adamant” about another lockout is stretching the truth.

That said, it’s clear there’s frustration with many players who are looking at possibly not playing and not getting paid starting on September 15. That gigantic new deal Parise (and Ryan Suter) signed with Minnesota might have something to do with that.

  1. tmoore4075 - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Yeah this is stretching the truth a little Mr Parise. While Bettman isn’t scared of a lockout, at least publicly, he’s not sitting there saying “Let’s do it again!” Sorry Zach he’s doing what your side is doing: Trying to get a good deal for them. They aren’t just gonna say “Oh you wanna keep going the way it is? OK then you win.”

    In saying all of that. Let’s get a deal!

    • windmiller4 - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:41 PM

      I can understand trying to get a good deal, but sometimes it seems like bettman is trying to rob the players blind by asking too much and giving too little in return

      • tmoore4075 - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:08 PM

        He’s doing what his owners want. The struggling markets need money and the big time owners don’t want to fork over money in terms of revenue sharing so cutting HRR from the players is the easiest way to do it. Not that I think it’s right just the difference between owner #1 and #30 is drastic and they need to find something that is best for everyone.

        I’m not saying I agree with him just that’s his view point. I hate Gary Bettman. He is screwing the players in money. From a fans stand point he’s hurt the game quite a bit. Sure he’s turned it into a money machine (for the most part) for the owners but there are parts that I don’t like right now. I think it’s time for him to go cause he’s taken the NHL as far as he can and now it’s time for a hockey guy to take over.

        It’s just not as cut and dry as Parise makes it. The NHL feels changes need to be made and it’s not gonna be an easy process and the NHL will fight for what it thinks it needs as the NHLPA will. An owner could come out and say the same thing about the NHLPA. It’s all a matter of prospective.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        While I agree that Bettman seems to be going for the home run here let’s be honest neither side is going to lay their cards on the table and give their best deal until faced with a date to do so. Maybe that’s Septmeber 15th, maybe it’s so they can play the day after US Thanksgiving or maybe it’s so they can get camps started in time to put together 24/7 and start with the winter classic on January 1st. Whatever the date is neither side has any incentive to give their best offer until then.

      • mtwinston - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM

        I do totally agree with you- and I personally hate Bettman, but it is difficult to say that the players are getting “little in return” when they’re making millions and millions of dollars.

      • windmiller4 - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

        @Mtwinston – In comparison to us, those millions of dollars are a very large amount, but if compared to what the owners and the league make its nothing. it all depends on perspective. I think the one thing we can all agree on is bettman can go to hell

      • polegojim - Aug 31, 2012 at 10:53 AM

        Oh Windmiller… those AWEFUL owners.

        How DARE they make money… with THEIR team. The nerve of them.

        WHAT??? Do they think this is a CAPTALIST country or something???

        How do the poor players even put bread on the table at $2.4 million ave annual salary…

        Perspective? You Own, you Win big or maybe lose. If you’re an EMPLOYEE, you get a salary and paycheck if you work. If you don’t work, you don’t get paid. What’s SOOOO hard about that concept?

        If it’s SO unfair, stop playing hockey, get a different job, get even with that ‘Evil NHL Empire’.

      • windmiller4 - Aug 31, 2012 at 3:06 PM

        @polegojim Cool it with the capital letters, i know your feelings got hurt but I’m sure it’ll go away eventually. I honestly can’t even believe the pure stupidity in that comment, either you don’t know how the business side of how things work, or you just enjoy stirring the pot. If there is a lockout maybe you can use all that extra time to brush up on your economics, maybe then you’ll be able to wrap that tiny brain of yours around such a big subject

    • mpg44 - Aug 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM

      Like Parise being untruthful is anything new!!!

    • sfischer1967 - Aug 30, 2012 at 6:46 AM

      tmoore, I think we need to remember the last lockout, and who set the conditions for the return to work, and who made all the concessions. The owners got the system they wanted in place. Now, after one term of a CBA, the owners are again saying “yeah, we need more concessions from the players. that system we put in place…well, that didn’t work like we wanted it to” Gary Bettman bears the majority of the responsibility for that. They (the owners) had all the leverage in negotiating the deal last time, and now, its a deal that they can no longer live with?

      I want to see hockey in October as much as anyone, but if it doesn’t happen, no laying it at the players feet this time.

  2. canucks18 - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    Are you guys aware that Bettman and all his cronies stand to make a few million each even if the season doesn’t get played? Bettman has all sorts of reasons to enjoy a lockout !

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:24 PM

      Yes but Bettman is also starting to face increasing pressure from owners to make a deal, according to both Elliotte Friedman and Glenn Healy there were 8 owners who liked the NHLPA’S first offer better than the league’s first offer and they were prepared to play under that proposal. He didn’t face that in 2004-05 and it’s surely to increase.

      Also the NHL does get paid by NBC this year for television regardless of if they play however if they don’t play a certain number of games (not sure on the number) the contract gets extended for 1 more year in which the NHL gets $0, tv fees are sure to be higher 10 years from now.

      • mpg44 - Aug 29, 2012 at 5:26 PM

        And also all but garuntees that the contract will not be renewed.

  3. martysbetter - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    Zach “Part of the Problem” Parise everyone..

    • windmiller4 - Aug 29, 2012 at 7:55 PM

      Let me guess, Sore devils fan?

      • vindicatus - Aug 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM

        If I could, I would respond to this with one of those pictures with the “I ain’t even mad” caption. Since I can’t, you’ll just have to use your limited imagination to picture how we Devils fans feel about “losing” Captain Silver Medal.

      • spiciercheez - Aug 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

        Well you sure cry like little babies for not caring, you baby

      • windmiller4 - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:02 PM

        way to make your point like a mature adult spiciercheez, calling them babies twice is sure gonna help make your argument valid…

  4. babar61 - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    Boom, roasted.

  5. jrzdiablo - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    I would love to punch that prima donna square in his pretty face.

    • lordfletcher - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:14 PM

      you think Parise is pretty?

      I bet that “pretty boy” could do a number on you anyhow. He is in great shape, you blog online, so that means most likely you are 5’7 – 193lbs. Good luck with that tough guy

      • ray2013 - Aug 29, 2012 at 5:19 PM

        Burn!

    • smillr58 - Aug 30, 2012 at 7:49 AM

      I bet the entire state of hockey would love to see you try… What a tool

  6. capsfan19 - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    Eh i accept parise’s statement. Half these owners never played the sport, let alone any sports in general. They are very out of touch of their feelings.
    Yes it is good to be aware and on top of the economic aspect of the deal, but if you are completely of touch of the sport then…. Well ha you can deduce on your own.

    • polegojim - Aug 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM

      Ahhh capsfan… Because 85-100 mil a year is…

      “Feelings… nothing more than feelings,
      trying to forget my… feelings of love”

      Teardrops… rolling down on my face,
      trying to forget my… feelings of love.

      Feelings… feelings like I’ve never lost you
      and feelings like I’ll never have you again in my heart.”

      Those idiot owners – how DID they get so rich???

  7. davebabychreturns - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    Why would Parise be any more frustrated than any other player in the league about missed salary? The guy’s already been paid 85% of what he’s due for this season..

  8. dbarnes79 - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:08 PM

    If there is another lockout Bettman needs to be fired!

  9. cameltoews - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Somebody has a crush on parise.

  10. sjsharks66 - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Don’t use parise as someone commenting about bettmans proposals. After all he is making 100mil and I believe 25mil the next two years in signing bonuses.

    • martysbetter - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:37 PM

      Not to mention the fact that he held the Wild hostage and forced them to overpay for his boytoy Suter as the only way he’d play in Minnesota.

      • lostpuppysyndrome - Aug 29, 2012 at 4:40 PM

        LOL. Hostage. Right.

      • lordfletcher - Aug 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

        Oh Marty… I see you left your post at the door knob again.

        Go be a good boy and head back over there and just keep fap, fap, fap’n away.

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - Aug 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

        I guess if you mean by hostage you mean Suter calling Parise, because Suter signed first…

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 PM

      Actually it’s 98 million because he didn’t want the stigma of a 9 figure contract. Oh and it’s 10 million a year the first two in bonuses, in which 10 million was paid this month.

  11. youngs79 - Aug 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    Held Hostage and overpaid. Really? You are an uninformed Moron. The Wild was where he was playing all along and the Wild paid LESS THAN HE WAS OFFERED.

    • martysbetter - Aug 29, 2012 at 7:03 PM

      Stupid, I’m talking about the MASSIVE contract Suter had to get in order to be lured from signing with Detroit to Minny – which was the caveat to Parise joining the Wild.

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - Aug 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM

        Suter turned down bigger offers too idiot

    • mpg44 - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM

      Youngs…. You are correct . However you just help prove what a liar he really is. . All one would need to do now is look at any interview during the last season and a half to see the lies he was saying.

  12. mikeincmn - Aug 29, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Blaming Parise or Suter or Weber or any of the players for the contracts they got is stupid.

    That’s like blaming the employees of a company for agreeing to be paid $50/HR when the company can only afford to pay $10. The owners are the ones handing out the cash, I dont blame the players for taking the cash that is being shoved in their face.

    In the end thought, this is a battle between greedy billionaires and greedy millionaires and in the end the fans lose the longer this crap goes on.

    • swini8 - Aug 31, 2012 at 9:48 AM

      This is exactly what burns my ass…one of the biggest problems I’m seeing is with revenue sharing where large market teams that generate profit are having to kick money down to smaller market teams that lose money every year…I have to wonder how this is OK…A team like Minnesota which is a smaller market team operating at a loss every year can only afford to pay huge salaries to Suter and Parise through revenue sharing…Basiclly the Boston Bruins, Toronto Maple Leafs, New York Rangers, etc. are paying the salaries of players like Parise, Suter, and Kovalchuk. I feel that if a team isn’t making money it needs to move or fold

  13. gmenfan1982 - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    Sorry. I gotta say screw the owners. They are more than well off for the rest I their lives. The players earn their money and the money the owners have. It’s time for those to earn the full fruits of their labor. And in terms of revenue sharing, there’s far more players to divide up a 50% share than there are owners. Each owner will receive much more money out of their percent of the revenue sharing than each player. The owners should get maybe 20% to divide up between the 32 of them. 80% to divide up between the HUNDREDS or players.

    • mpg44 - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:52 PM

      Just how exactly does a player “earn” hockey related revenue? Considering that this is the real issue that is holding everything up.

    • itison86 - Aug 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM

      You do realize that this is revenue sharing, not profit sharing, right? Revenue and profit are not the same thing, and believe it or not, it does cost money beyond the players’ salaries to run a hockey club. Your suggestion is so incredibly arbitrary and short-sighted. Not every team is turning a profit as it is, and without crunching any actual numbers, I’m pretty sure that every single owner (or if not, almost every one) would be losing money if their cut was 20% of the revenue.

      • mpg44 - Aug 31, 2012 at 10:33 PM

        Actually …. I was talking about the HRR , not the revenue sharing between the teams. You do know there is a diffrence , Right??

  14. gmenfan1982 - Aug 29, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    A player earns “hockey related revenue” by playing in a game that makes fans spend money on hockey related items such as jerseys, shirts, tickets, etc. If it weren’t for the players there would be no items to sell. The players sell the game and therefore earn hockey related revenue.

    • mpg44 - Aug 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM

      A player is given a contract with its size based on his popularity and or his skill on the ice. That is the reason better or more skilled players get more money in their contracts. So the better they play , and sell the fans on the game. The better their contract is. Still not an answer on hockey related revenue. The better the player the better the contract. Still doesnt entitle them to refund or profit from some thing they had little to nothing to do with. This also robbing mIndy away from the owners to use to run the day to day operations of the team.

  15. gmenfan1982 - Aug 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    I do understand that there is more to running a team than players salaries. I simply feel that those actually responsible for bringing in revenue deserve to see the majority of that revenue make its way into their pockets.

  16. gmenfan1982 - Aug 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    And I was also throwing out 20 and 80 percent as mere suggestions. I didn’t exactly crunch numbers. I’m simply talking in theory. The players deserve a much larger share than the owners. That’s all I’m saying. They bring in the money, and therefore deserve a larger piece of the pie.

    • tatdue - Aug 30, 2012 at 9:12 AM

      So what you are saying is that the players, who we all know and buy tickets for, are to be paid their millions in contracted salaries plus get a much larger share of HRR while the owners who work around the clock taking care of their investment (which includes paying hundreds of employees beyond what you buy your tickets to see, supply everything for those players from team jets, state of the art workout facilities, miniature hospitals equipped with MRIs, X-rays, and God knows what other equipment as well as the Doctors and other medical staff to run things, and countless other amenities that they give their players.) Plus pay all other related bills like hydro, gas, and water (could you imagine those bills?) and I imagine the biggest bill of all…Insurance for all those people watching those games (and the players)….get what?

  17. pg99bassist - Aug 30, 2012 at 12:48 AM

    I side with the players. Me, like most fans, pay money to see guys with names like “Ovechkin,” “Crosby,” and “Stamkos” on their jerseys on the ice. Last time I checked… not one single fan bought a “Leonsis,” “Ilitch” or “Molson” jersey. They don’t have an award for “Owner of the Year.” Teams don’t print tickets or make bobbleheads of owners or NHL organizational members.

    It’s real simple. If the owners think the game exists more for their efforts than the players efforts… more power to them. They can have that stance. They can afford to. We, hard working shlubs, can’t. And we essentially pay for all of it. So who loses?

    And to anyone who doesn’t lace up and play… these guys we watch night in and night out, from the fringe grinders and enforcers to the softest hand snipers and playmakers, put more of themselves in one complete season (which is the longest regular and post season of any sport in existence) than any owner or bureaucrat… they are the reason we watch, care, spend and love.

    And from someone who plays hockey himself… I find the owners recalcitrant approach to the players insulting. On many levels.

    • topnotch60 - Sep 1, 2012 at 1:15 AM

      Pg99 you must have spent the whole day finding such a big word, not bad for a total moron. You cant overlook the overhead the owners have besides contracts i dont like the crap thats going on and if theres another lockout. I myself am gone. I think its bs that players have a 98 mil contract and need more, im sorry but that i dont agree with. The players should live on the contracts they’ve negotiated and let the owners share the HRR with less fortunent franchises. Let them save themselves by sharing the money the fans dish out for jerseys and hats etc. i dont feel sorry one bit for a guy, who makes 10 mil a year yet he needs more. Now whos being greedy. Dont even bring up injuries either. Every “career” has injury potential, very few have a 10 mil a yr salary and heaven forbid they get a headache, they might miss a season and still get that fat paycheck every week. Now quit whining, get the bs done and “lets play hockey!!!”

      • pg99bassist - Sep 10, 2012 at 10:44 PM

        All of what you said would be valid… if the players had instantiated a strike. But they didn’t. The OWNERS locked them out. The owners let the current CBA expire. The owners made the first offer that is roughly 20% less that what they currently make. Meanwhile they are the ones offering guys like Parise, Suter and Weber these ridiculously long, inflated contracts.

        Do you know what an offer sheet is? The players are free agents. They discuss what their terms may be but the TEAM offers them the money. If the owners want to play paupers… they wouldn’t be throwing all the money around.

        Again… the OWNERS locked the players out. There isn’t going to be hockey until the OWNERS let the players return to work. People in the minority (the ones who side with the owners) always seem to forget that they hold all the cards. You could walk into my bosses office and demand a raise or a bonus… but it will be their decision to give it to you. And when they decide you aren’t worth your salary or can replace you… well… you can figure the rest out.

  18. pensfan1 - Aug 30, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    What kind of leadership is it when the only management style shown is management by lockout? I side with the players. Owners got what they wanted last time but feel they need more so it’s a “take my ball and go home” management style. Players want to play – the owners do not.

    Bettman’s management style isn’t hurting them or even the players. It’s killing the fan. I’m sick of the whining and biting and “making progress statements”. Summer is long enough – get the game underway and stop holding me hostage by making me choose sides.

  19. mpg44 - Aug 30, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    Here is the bottom line …. A players incentive to play better and be a “leader” on and off the ice is the better he does all of that the more valuable his is to the team. There by earning him a high value contract then others. This still does not entitle them to any money brought in from other outlets. Moral of this is …. Work for what you earn. Any money they get from hrr , is purely a bonus and should be treated as such.

    • mpg44 - Aug 30, 2012 at 12:51 PM

      Parisienne being a great example of greed…. Is 98 million dollars not enough for you ?? You don’t think that you have the capacity to have your family and you be able to live off of that for the rest of your days? You really need more ?? This only shows how out of touch with reality these athletes are. Hockey players were always the lowest paid but played with the biggest hearts …. For the love of the game !! A lot of players are forgetting this and now this will make us no better then the other money whore sports ( ie . Baseball and basketball)

  20. dino1730 - Aug 30, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    You have to love this guy and how it all worked out for him. He was the prize catch in an awful free agent class. He was lucky enough to become a free agent right before the CBA expires so he benefits from another one of these ridiculous contracts. Finally, the state of hockey was so dismal in The State of Hockey (was that a pun?) he found his sucker to pay him an absurd bonus to go ice fishing all winter. O, and he just married some smoking chick. Good for him.

  21. icyirish - Aug 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    Are you a moron or just stupid,hes not asking for more money,he just wants to play.what is so hard to understand. Any other sport would have fired this ny jew after 1st work stoppage.By the way I am a ny jew.

    • mpg44 - Aug 31, 2012 at 6:53 AM

      All the players are demanding more money by wanting a higher percentage share of the hockey related revenue.

  22. Doesnotmatter - Aug 30, 2012 at 7:04 PM

    Why all the Parise bashing? He signed a 13 year contract that pays him a little over 7.5 million dollars a year. I know its ridiculously long, front loaded and includes huge signing bonuses. The new CBA should take care of the cap circumvention contracts. Yearly salary plus signing bonuses should equal the cap hit for that year. Cutting players salaries? In no way do I agree with that. Not when Metta World Peace is getting over 7 million per year for whatever he does.

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