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	<title>Comments on: After 90-minute meeting, players and owners haggling over terminology; Counter-proposal tomorrow?</title>
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		<title>By: sportmentary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportmentary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both sides are being led by lockout loving people. Bettman engineered the last NHL lockout and Donald Fehr was at the helm of the MLBA when MLB had their last lockout. It&#039;s not about what&#039;s best for the game or the fans that pay the NHL&#039; bills. It&#039;s about egos and greed.

http://www.sportmentary.com/2012/08/blah-blah-blah-blah.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both sides are being led by lockout loving people. Bettman engineered the last NHL lockout and Donald Fehr was at the helm of the MLBA when MLB had their last lockout. It&#8217;s not about what&#8217;s best for the game or the fans that pay the NHL&#8217; bills. It&#8217;s about egos and greed.</p>
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		<title>By: redmosquito16</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[redmosquito16]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*grammar

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*grammar<br />
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		<title>By: nhstateline</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nhstateline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if they trusted each other it would take less time. Because they don&#039;t: short meeting then parse the proposal line by line every time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they trusted each other it would take less time. Because they don&#8217;t: short meeting then parse the proposal line by line every time.</p>
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		<title>By: deadrabbit79</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deadrabbit79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[90 minutes, Wow!  Dont over exert yourselves fellas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90 minutes, Wow!  Dont over exert yourselves fellas.</p>
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		<title>By: bcsteele</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/29/after-90-minute-meeting-players-and-owners-haggling-over-terminology-counter-proposal-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-99811</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bcsteele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I&#039;m usually really good with grammer and proof-reading because I&#039;m big on it...so I&#039;m sorry my above post was a fail in that respect. Next time I&#039;ll re-read it again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m usually really good with grammer and proof-reading because I&#8217;m big on it&#8230;so I&#8217;m sorry my above post was a fail in that respect. Next time I&#8217;ll re-read it again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bcsteele</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bcsteele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m kind of confused as to where the support for the players has gone. They gave up huge last round and now the owners want even more serious concessions. Think about it, your boss comes to you and says I need you to take a serious pay cut but we&#039;ll have things fixed in a few years and I can get you taken care of then...then he comes to you again and says you&#039;ll have to give up even more...I&#039;m sorry...my support this round is with the players this round. I&#039;m all for them meeting in the middle if the finances demand it, but the owners can&#039;t expect to get away with rape here.

Furthermore, whatever they do come up with...Bettman better make sure it will fix the end all problem becaue the promise of the &quot;light at the end of the tunnel only&quot; arguement only holds water so long. Since the last lockout we&#039;ve seen more growth the game has ever seen...yet he still can&#039;t make ends meet and needs more from the players. He needs to reel in his owners on these contracts or at least let the owners know they can make those contracts...but live with the consequence.

Again, anytime I&#039;ve made a post I&#039;ve said I don&#039;t know everything and I&#039;m not going to say I know exactly what to do. But given all the information I&#039;ve compiled from both sides to come up with a fair, un-bias opinion...I believe the Bettman and the owners are the ones that need to raise the bar here.

At the end of the day...I&#039;m just glad the&#039;re talking...just get a fair deal done and let&#039;s play hockey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of confused as to where the support for the players has gone. They gave up huge last round and now the owners want even more serious concessions. Think about it, your boss comes to you and says I need you to take a serious pay cut but we&#8217;ll have things fixed in a few years and I can get you taken care of then&#8230;then he comes to you again and says you&#8217;ll have to give up even more&#8230;I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;my support this round is with the players this round. I&#8217;m all for them meeting in the middle if the finances demand it, but the owners can&#8217;t expect to get away with rape here.</p>
<p>Furthermore, whatever they do come up with&#8230;Bettman better make sure it will fix the end all problem becaue the promise of the &#8220;light at the end of the tunnel only&#8221; arguement only holds water so long. Since the last lockout we&#8217;ve seen more growth the game has ever seen&#8230;yet he still can&#8217;t make ends meet and needs more from the players. He needs to reel in his owners on these contracts or at least let the owners know they can make those contracts&#8230;but live with the consequence.</p>
<p>Again, anytime I&#8217;ve made a post I&#8217;ve said I don&#8217;t know everything and I&#8217;m not going to say I know exactly what to do. But given all the information I&#8217;ve compiled from both sides to come up with a fair, un-bias opinion&#8230;I believe the Bettman and the owners are the ones that need to raise the bar here.</p>
<p>At the end of the day&#8230;I&#8217;m just glad the&#8217;re talking&#8230;just get a fair deal done and let&#8217;s play hockey.</p>
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		<title>By: tealwithit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tealwithit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t figure out why the players want to put themselves and the fans through this all over again in just a few years. Their proposal all but guaranteed a lockout (or at least the serious threat of a lockout) in three years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t figure out why the players want to put themselves and the fans through this all over again in just a few years. Their proposal all but guaranteed a lockout (or at least the serious threat of a lockout) in three years.</p>
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		<title>By: barkar942</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[barkar942]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, at least they are &quot;negotiating&quot;. That is a good thing. It is when they stop meeting all together with no new meetings scheduled that I will get nervous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least they are &#8220;negotiating&#8221;. That is a good thing. It is when they stop meeting all together with no new meetings scheduled that I will get nervous.</p>
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		<title>By: onbucky96</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[onbucky96]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donald Fehr, shutting down professional sporting leagues since 1994.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donald Fehr, shutting down professional sporting leagues since 1994.</p>
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