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		<title>By: sabatimus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sabatimus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep your national politics out of my NHL politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep your national politics out of my NHL politics.</p>
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		<title>By: hmsgrace</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am, it is the American way.  Business owners and investors want to make more money on their investment and the employees think they are entitled to a higher share of the profits.  Greed is what drives an active American economy.  Without it, we slip into the socialist abyss where everyone thinks they should be equal with everyone else regardless of effort or ability.....wait a minute, that sounds like exactly where this country is heading..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am, it is the American way.  Business owners and investors want to make more money on their investment and the employees think they are entitled to a higher share of the profits.  Greed is what drives an active American economy.  Without it, we slip into the socialist abyss where everyone thinks they should be equal with everyone else regardless of effort or ability&#8230;..wait a minute, that sounds like exactly where this country is heading..</p>
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		<title>By: hockeydon10</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting facts to see before one agrees with the billionaire (or near billionaire) owners crying poor. I’m a little baffled why REPORTERS don’t report this sort of thing. It’s right there in the CBA. I know it would take a little research and work, so maybe that’s too much to ask of hockey reporters today. After all, this took about 5 minutes to find.

* The top ten money-making teams contribute to the pool. The bottom 15 money-making teams are eligible to collect from it.
* The amount of money contributed by the top ten teams is set by a formula that includes a percentage of overall league revenues and some playoff revenues. The exact number isn’t worked out until the season is over and all revenues have been counted.
* For a bottom-15 team to collect a full revenue sharing cheque, it must reach at least 80% capacity in home attendance (last year that meant averaging about 14,000 per game) and show revenue growth that exceeds the league average. Missing either threshold means a cut in the share.
* In 2010, a full share of revenue sharing was about $10 million.
* Teams in markets with more than 2.5 million television households cannot qualify for revenue sharing. By my unofficial estimate, that means the Rangers, Islanders, Devils, Flyers, Blackhawks, Ducks, Sharks, Stars, and Kings are ineligible.

What does this mean? It means every team with an operating loss EXCEPT the Coyotes, Islanders, Ducks, &amp; Sharks had that negative operating income turn into a positive because of the current CBA. This means that really only four teams (give or take each year) lose money.

So, what is really being discussed is the 10 rich owners that pay into the pool want the players to prop up the 15 worst teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting facts to see before one agrees with the billionaire (or near billionaire) owners crying poor. I’m a little baffled why REPORTERS don’t report this sort of thing. It’s right there in the CBA. I know it would take a little research and work, so maybe that’s too much to ask of hockey reporters today. After all, this took about 5 minutes to find.</p>
<p>* The top ten money-making teams contribute to the pool. The bottom 15 money-making teams are eligible to collect from it.<br />
* The amount of money contributed by the top ten teams is set by a formula that includes a percentage of overall league revenues and some playoff revenues. The exact number isn’t worked out until the season is over and all revenues have been counted.<br />
* For a bottom-15 team to collect a full revenue sharing cheque, it must reach at least 80% capacity in home attendance (last year that meant averaging about 14,000 per game) and show revenue growth that exceeds the league average. Missing either threshold means a cut in the share.<br />
* In 2010, a full share of revenue sharing was about $10 million.<br />
* Teams in markets with more than 2.5 million television households cannot qualify for revenue sharing. By my unofficial estimate, that means the Rangers, Islanders, Devils, Flyers, Blackhawks, Ducks, Sharks, Stars, and Kings are ineligible.</p>
<p>What does this mean? It means every team with an operating loss EXCEPT the Coyotes, Islanders, Ducks, &amp; Sharks had that negative operating income turn into a positive because of the current CBA. This means that really only four teams (give or take each year) lose money.</p>
<p>So, what is really being discussed is the 10 rich owners that pay into the pool want the players to prop up the 15 worst teams.</p>
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		<title>By: blomfeld</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YOU&#039;RE STILL THE &quot;BEST EVER&quot; MISTER ORR !

While growing up as a youngster in Montreal, Bobby Orr was my first ever hockey hero ... and to this very day, despite being a King&#039;s fan for some 39 years now, I still view him as the &quot;best&quot; that ever played the game.  I can say with certainty that an NHL player with greater skill, bravery, honor, humility and class, simply doesn&#039;t exist !

Orr is correct by taking a stance with the players, though his feelings are undoubtedly influenced by the fact that he comes from an era where &quot;owner abuse&quot; was downright deplorable.  Of course it&#039;s gotten so much better since his time, when contracts were written on the back on cigarette packs, etc.  Nonetheless, the societal trend is now going backwards right across the board.  The NHL owners&#039; attempts to reverse &quot;player progress&quot; is no different than what&#039;s happening with our society at large.  Everywhere you look, &quot;money&quot; is on the offensive seeking to acquire ever more, while screwing the middle and lower classes in the process, not to mention the irreparable damage being done to our environment.  Egalitarianism and &quot;decency among men&quot; are now forgotten concepts, replaced instead by this new-age &quot;me me me&quot; wickedness.

I read somewhere recently that shows like the &quot;Hunting Channel&quot; and &quot;Keeping Up With the Kardashians&quot; draw TV audiences which literally &quot;dwarf&quot; those of the NHL ?  So if these &quot;pigs&quot; pull the plug on another season due to their stupidity and greed, then suffice it to say that &quot;that&quot; which follows, will be completely a result of their own doing ... and I will no longer be counted among their faithful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6d8eKvegLI]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU&#8217;RE STILL THE &#8220;BEST EVER&#8221; MISTER ORR !</p>
<p>While growing up as a youngster in Montreal, Bobby Orr was my first ever hockey hero &#8230; and to this very day, despite being a King&#8217;s fan for some 39 years now, I still view him as the &#8220;best&#8221; that ever played the game.  I can say with certainty that an NHL player with greater skill, bravery, honor, humility and class, simply doesn&#8217;t exist !</p>
<p>Orr is correct by taking a stance with the players, though his feelings are undoubtedly influenced by the fact that he comes from an era where &#8220;owner abuse&#8221; was downright deplorable.  Of course it&#8217;s gotten so much better since his time, when contracts were written on the back on cigarette packs, etc.  Nonetheless, the societal trend is now going backwards right across the board.  The NHL owners&#8217; attempts to reverse &#8220;player progress&#8221; is no different than what&#8217;s happening with our society at large.  Everywhere you look, &#8220;money&#8221; is on the offensive seeking to acquire ever more, while screwing the middle and lower classes in the process, not to mention the irreparable damage being done to our environment.  Egalitarianism and &#8220;decency among men&#8221; are now forgotten concepts, replaced instead by this new-age &#8220;me me me&#8221; wickedness.</p>
<p>I read somewhere recently that shows like the &#8220;Hunting Channel&#8221; and &#8220;Keeping Up With the Kardashians&#8221; draw TV audiences which literally &#8220;dwarf&#8221; those of the NHL ?  So if these &#8220;pigs&#8221; pull the plug on another season due to their stupidity and greed, then suffice it to say that &#8220;that&#8221; which follows, will be completely a result of their own doing &#8230; and I will no longer be counted among their faithful.</p>
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		<title>By: villi5ed</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bobby Orr is the greatest player the game has ever seen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby Orr is the greatest player the game has ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: scionofflame</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scionofflame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hockey players take a lot of abuse, and as far as I&#039;m concerned they have every right to get paid. I sincerely hope they at least get a foothold on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hockey players take a lot of abuse, and as far as I&#8217;m concerned they have every right to get paid. I sincerely hope they at least get a foothold on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: sabatimus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sabatimus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who&#039;s suggesting the PLAYERS are being greedy? (except the occasional douche PHT poster)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s suggesting the PLAYERS are being greedy? (except the occasional douche PHT poster)</p>
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		<title>By: scottblack77</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s hilarious that the owners want a roll back in player salaries. This is a group of owners who won the last round of negotiations and yet still couldn&#039;t make it work. Now they want to hop in the time machine and go back to the olden days where free agency was limited and players got paid a whole lot less. If there is a lock out, all that good that the NHL has built up in the past few years will be flushed down the toilet! 

Owners you better figure this out amongst yourselves and all get on the same page. If you don&#039;t want to  support the weak sister teams then contract them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s hilarious that the owners want a roll back in player salaries. This is a group of owners who won the last round of negotiations and yet still couldn&#8217;t make it work. Now they want to hop in the time machine and go back to the olden days where free agency was limited and players got paid a whole lot less. If there is a lock out, all that good that the NHL has built up in the past few years will be flushed down the toilet! </p>
<p>Owners you better figure this out amongst yourselves and all get on the same page. If you don&#8217;t want to  support the weak sister teams then contract them.</p>
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