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Can Stamkos improve on his 60-goal season?

Aug 4, 2012, 11:29 AM EDT

Steven Stamkos AP

It’s a shame the Lightning finished out of the playoffs last season because Steve Stamkos‘ incredible season was an afterthought because of it.

In case you’d forgotten, Stamkos took home the Rocket Richard Trophy last season leading the league with 60 goals. It’s the second time in three years he’s taken home the league goal scoring hardware (he tied with Sidney Crosby in 2009-10). Stamkos’ 97 points marked a career-high for a single season.

After such a monster season, what does he do for an encore? You might want to lower expectations.

The last guy to score 60 or more was Alex Ovechkin in 2007-08 when he put up 65 goals at age 22. He followed that season with a 56 goal effort and 50 the season after that. Since then, the “run and gun” Caps have gone away as has Ovechkin’s staggering goal totals.

Stamkos heads into 2012-13 season as a 22 year-old leader himself. He’s the main threat on the Lightning and you could argue his supporting cast in Tampa is better than what Ovechkin had during his monster season. That said, with the game being a bit tighter now and power play chances on the decline, gunning for 60 (or more) might prove to be difficult.

  1. rca26 - Aug 4, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    It’s worth noting that 48 of those 60 goals were even-strength, which is an absurd percentage. If they were able to get the power play back off the ground (by adding someone like, say, Sami Salo), I could see his numbers going up easily. 48 even-strength goals is almost as impressive a stat as 60 total.

    • danphipps01 - Aug 4, 2012 at 3:56 PM

      This leaves me wondering how good Stamkos is on the power play… I mean, less than fifteen power play markers when he’s without a doubt getting the most PP ice time amongst forwards on his team?

      The man can basically do no wrong in my book, but I’m curious why his special teams numbers were so low. You’d figure if he’s that dominant at even strength, he’d be even more dangerous on the man advantage.

      • windmiller4 - Aug 4, 2012 at 11:11 PM

        I think teams are starting to figure out all he does is set up on the left side and rip onetimers at the top corner. It seems to me if he changed how he played on the pp he could possibly hit 70 goals, cause he could easily score another ten on the pp if he wasn’t as predictable

      • leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - Aug 5, 2012 at 2:22 PM

        Predictability on the power play isn’t the issue, if it was it wouldn’t have taken teams an entire season to figure it out. In 2010, Stamkos continued to kill teams on the powerplay despite camping out to the left of the goal over and over again. It wasn’t that teams didn’t know it was coming, our power play was just so effective that they couldn’t afford to watch him at all times because then Marty and Vinny would kill them instead.

        Last season, however, the power play was awful. There are several reasons for it, but one of the biggest was the fact that none of our defensemen had even the slightest idea how to shoot or set up passes. The puck movement as well as the movement of the players in general was just so much better in 2010. I think there was also a lot of hesitation in fear that it could turn into a shorthanded opportunity because they had no confidence in our goaltending.

        Hopefully, adding guys like Carle and especially Salo will help us return to having a great power play again. We certainly have the weapons, but it takes all 5 players knowing their roles to be truly effective.

  2. bagjr387 - Aug 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    ^X2
    If he plays at this level until he’s 36 years old….he will have close to 800 goals and 700 assists…good enough for top 10 all time, maybe top 5 if he plays longer. his stats are unreal for being on an average team(up until last season)

    • bcjim - Aug 4, 2012 at 1:28 PM

      lmao. He is at his peak *NOW*. It is very possibly all downhill from here. He may have several more big seasons sure but NOBODY plays at that level until they are 36. NOBODY. Look even at Gretzky’s numbers. Peaked early to mid 20s.

      If the labor situation resolves as the last one (more offense) his, and everyones, numbers could go up.

      • tbbolts91 - Aug 4, 2012 at 4:09 PM

        maybe this is stamkos’ peak, but just remember, martin st louis had 99 points as a 36 year old and pavel datsyuk is 34, not far off.

    • windmiller4 - Aug 4, 2012 at 11:15 PM

      No doubt that Stamkos’ best years will be from now until around 30. But he will still be an effective player after that. Just look at Selanne and what hes been able to accomplish in his late 30s

  3. theawesomersfranchise - Aug 4, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Ya except Stamkos has been playing au-natural while Ovy wasn’t……

    • handsofsweed - Aug 4, 2012 at 12:40 PM

      Au-natural! LOL. Stamkos was playing…in the nude. I guess that’s one way to create space from a defense!!

      • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 4, 2012 at 12:42 PM

        That and doing steroids

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Aug 4, 2012 at 1:27 PM

      Okay this point is incredibly bad, first off you’re accusing someone of doing something with absolutely no proof, and secondly if you saw the pictures of AO on the beach you’d know the last thing that guy was doing was steroids, you could have accused him of doing buffets but not steroids. Right now we’re seeing that lack of training and effort catching up with him.

      As far as Stamkos goes, he’s a heck of a player, and if they reset the rules to 05-06 like they’re talking about I think he’ll eclipse both his goals and points totals from this year.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 4, 2012 at 1:49 PM

        My point is incredibly bad? Because I lack proof? I find this funny because you yourself lack any proof as well when you say “we’re seeing that lack of training and effort”. Where is your proof? Some picture taken last year when he stopped using?
        I find that funny

        You know what else I find funny? I find it funny that Ovy was a 50-60 goal scorer right up until 2010.
        What on Earth happened in 2010? Oh I know. The Olympics, where reports of whispers of Ovy getting some extra help where finally making the papers. Then comes along comes OIC, who has a far superior & stricter testing program.
        And poof….Ovy is a 30 goal scorer.

        I’ll draw my own assumptions as this isn’t a court of law and refuse to accept your assumption that has equally less proof.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Aug 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM

      Ovi played in the Olympics in 2006 as well, during his 106 point rookie season, he didn’t test positive, youve got 2 seasons with Olympic testing, one with big numbers, one without, but I guess 06 doesn’t fit your hypothesis so you can’t use it?

      • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM

        Testing in 2006 couldn’t uncover HGH….
        When was testing for HGH starting to come around…..?
        Ohhhh right 2010

        Yikes!
        Another conscience

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Aug 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

      HGH and steroids are two different things, if Ovechkin were using HGH as you claim his entire body would grow, including his head but when he were to go off HGH his head wouldn’t go back to its per HGH size, see Barry Bonds in 92, 04 and now today…allegedly.

      You’re not a fan of Ovechkin, terrific, but making libelous statements about him that you have absolutely no evidence for is insane. Couldn’t it be possible that having parents who were a professional soccer player and a gold medal Olympian would give him incredibly athletic genes?

      Btw please describe to me how HGH would make him score more goals and record more assists? This isn’t baseball where the extra strength helps you hit the ball further or throw it faster. And in doing so please explain how the greatest hockey player of all time is a guy who admits he never worked out.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 4, 2012 at 7:17 PM

        LOL HGH does not automatically make your head grow.
        Do you honestly believe that No big head = No HGH?
        Very large doses of HGH is required to have the pituitary glade pumping out the amount of hormone that is required to thicken someone’s skull.

        LOL @ “libellous statements”
        Again, this isn’t a court of law
        And maybe you should write a letter to the sports writer who has said that same thing a few years ago.
        George Laraque who hinted at it
        And the steroid dealer who was busted with 200k worth of juice and said that he sold to athletes playing for the Caps.

        And if I really need to explain why steroids and/or HGH helps players it would no doubt fly completely over your head.

        Ill give you a quick lil breakdown k?
        When you are using you don’t tire as quick as others. You can go 100%….100% of the time. Back to back games? Great, the user will be fresher than the non user.
        You really need that explained to you? So many fail to understand that steroid users are not just getting the strength and quickness. They are getting endurance. The ability to stay fresh 82 games over the course of the season is an advantage.

        Goalies used to talk about Ovy’s shot, that it was different, it was a bomb. Not so much anymore.
        Why is that?
        I’ll call him a juicer while you go call his lawyers.

        And don’t ask me stupid questions, How is it that 8 men have batted over .400 yet we haven’t seen it on over 60 years?
        Ya that kind of stupid question

  4. jacketsfan7 - Aug 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    I agree with you guys on the additions of salo on the PP , that’ll significantly help stamkos score more often

  5. namriverrat69 - Aug 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    He might even bust out and have four 200+ point seasons like Gretzky did. Wouldn’t that be something? The kid is going to make us say Sid who? Seriously, Stamkos is an exciting player to watch and will set some records of his own. Except for a couple of games he would be a King. I think the Kings are more than happy with Doughty instead.

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