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Poile on Weber’s no-trade clause request: “We have not resolved that yet”

Aug 3, 2012, 8:00 PM EDT

NASHVILLE, TN - APRIL 13: Shea Weber #6 of the Nashville Predators celebrates his goal against the Detroit Red Wings in Game Two of the Western Conference Quarterfinals during the 2012 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs at the Bridgestone Arena on April 13, 2012 in Nashville, Tennessee. (Photo by John Russell/NHLI via Getty Images) Getty Images

Once the Nashville Predators matched the Shea Weber offer sheet, many pivoted discussions to the possibility of adding a no-trade or no-movement clause.

GM David Poile told Josh Cooper that there’s been some discussion about that issue, but no resolution at this time.

“We’ve discussed it,” Poile said, “but we have not resolved that yet.”

Adding such a clause wouldn’t provide a tangible benefit for the Predators; technically it would only limit their options if they decided to trade Weber.

Giving Weber some added peace of mind might help keep him happy, though. That’s not a small concern since they matched that 14-year, $110 million contract, after all.

Whether the Predators satisfy that desire or not, they can’t trade him next season.

  1. chazxcore - Aug 3, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    What are either side going to do if they don’t resolve it by season start?

    I know the Preds don’t want one because they didn’t want to sign the offer but Poile had to prove that he wasn’t weak. He could have easily taken EIGHT 1st round picks over the next 4 years and either used it to rebuild through the draft or trades. The Preds can’t afford that whole contract, especially if the revenue sharing doesn’t go as hoped OR in the season isn’t played/delayed and they would need to make the playoffs.

    Let’s say they don’t get it done and Weber sits out until it’s done, does he lose his money?

    • predswilrule - Aug 3, 2012 at 8:56 PM

      wow. didnt know you had access to the preds books or inside info. sheesh

      • chazxcore - Aug 3, 2012 at 11:39 PM

        It doesn’t take someone on the inside to know that the team is one of the least valuable in the league and that they lose money each year. If they can’t afford Weber’s one year deal at a lower cap hit what makes you think they can afford that massive front loaded contract when the CBA hasn’t even been decided and Poile as well as other GM’s on small market/bad franchises are praying for profit sharing.

        So Poile had a choice, to either rebuilding with a ton of picks/trade bait but look weak OR get Weber and hope for some relief with profit sharing and to make a deep run into the playoffs even though his franchise is leaking money like a 76 Chevy Chevette but look strong at the same time.

        Don’t get me wrong, I like the Preds. I wanted them to come out of the West last year. I just don’t see the matching of Weber a smart business move especially with the uncertainty of the team and CBA.

    • predswilrule - Aug 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM

      there is NO UNCERTAINTY w/ this team. are they the leafs, flyers, rangers… no. wilson has as deep of pockets as just about any nhl owner. to qoute the owner spokesman ” money wont be a reason we miss out on a player”. you can believe the typical nhl media if you like, but the truth is the preds are in good shape. probably better than they have ever been and that includes paying the 1st payment of webers monster contract. just like the lastest predictions they finish 13th in the west cause they cant score. preds were 8th in the league in scoring last year BEFORE the additions of goose, ak46 and rads. they have the same group, minus toots, coming back.

  2. bcjim - Aug 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    I think he it’s a collosal dick for pressing this issue. It’s not enough that he it’s getting a gazillion dollars?

    Go screw, Weber.

  3. atwatercrushesokoye - Aug 3, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    There’s absolutely no reason for Nashville to give him that no trade clause, he signed an offer sheet without one and was prepared to play in Philly without one (according to the CBA only matching teams are allowed to add a limited number of things after matching) the only thing a NTC does is limit what the Preds can do if the situation arises where either side wants a trade. Why create a potential Rick Nash situation when you could have 29 teams bidding instead?

    As far as him holding out, when he signed the offer sheet he accepted that he would play hockey for either Philly or Nashville under the terms of that offer sheet, if he goes back on that I’m pretty sure the Preds can go after the signing bonus, he got that for agreeing to provide services.

    • freneticgarfieldfan - Aug 4, 2012 at 3:11 AM

      well said.

  4. hines86for6 - Aug 3, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    preds cant afford it? how the hell do you know that you entitled big marketer?

    i know it pains some of you, but hockey is moving closer to the NFL’s high level of parity. Make your peace with it. sheesh

  5. mclovinhockey - Aug 3, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    Ummm he was talking about how the Nashville team does not make enough money to pay 1 player 26 mill in a calendar year. An article came out last year and showed more than half the teams in the league are losing money, meanwhile teams like toronto make out like bandits.

    Of course the 2nd year of the deal only pays weber 1 mill so I am sure they will keep him in year 2, year 3 is back to massive amounts of money so if he gets traded it will be after year 2.

  6. biasedhomer - Aug 3, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    “Adding such a clause wouldn’t provide a tangible benefit for the Predators;”

    Doesnt a NTC or NMC lower the cap hit by a certain percentage?

    • killerpgh - Aug 3, 2012 at 11:38 PM

      No

  7. natlbnkilr - Aug 3, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    Blah… blah… blah… I’m glad everyone believes everything they read about the “rebuilding” Preds. They can’t afford this… they can’t afford that. They won’t/can’t match the Weber offer… I want everyone who thinks they know everything about the Preds to sit back and watch what happens. Our new ownership has a lot deeper pockets than you all know… believe what you want, but Weber is here to stay.

  8. ray2013 - Aug 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

    I wouldn’t let him off easy and give him a NTC. I’d make him play the year in Nashville, and if then if teams are interested in trading for Weber’s services, then they’ll have to step up with real offers. Then the Preds are in the driver’s seat, and can decide whether they want to keep him or they trade him for a bounty of players, prospects and picks.

  9. vshehane - Aug 4, 2012 at 7:47 AM

    I am not sure why the loss of one significant player would cause the team to have to “rebuild”. If you have watched Suter play you would understand why he was not the core of the team and his absence wont affect the Preds much.

  10. hines86for6 - Aug 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    mclovin,

    ever heard of financing? The Preds in all likelihood went to their bank financed the first year of the contract in order to spread that 26 mill out over a few years. It’s a smart responsible move.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Aug 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

      Sounds like a toxic mortgage to me. Just because you can finance something doesn’t mean you can afford it. Matching was a smart move from a fan support aspect but a terrible business decision. The reason they won’t give Weber a clause is because they never intended on keeping him past the required year and Weber really doesn’t want to stay in Nashville. The Preds simply can’t afford this contract.

  11. natlbnkilr - Aug 4, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Broad street – you are COMPLETELY wrong in all aspects of your comment. Have you ever heard of W. Brett Wilson? His along pockets alone are deeper than most NHL owners… not to mention the rest if the ownership group. Did you ever hear Weber say he didn’t want to be in Nashville?… Nope! that was his agent. Weber was told a long time ago that no matter the offer, the Preds would match…. and guess what? THEY MATCHED! They are not and will not just keep him for a year… he’s here for the rest if his career, if he continues to play like we all know he can. It is ALL up to the Preds! My question to you is.. how do you know what the Preds can and cannot afford? Are you on the inside? I’m sick of all the toxic idiots out there that “think” they know it all. Face it… Weber is a Pred… get over it!

    • field1314 - Aug 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

      Natlbnkilr…. They, like many NHL teams are losing money every year. See the link below. This was a bold move but a completely stupid business decision. I honestly think they intend to trade him after next season and wanted to “one up” paul holmgren for making the offer he made. We will (flyers) take any offer you throw out when we lose in the first round of the playoffs due to lack of a defense next season. You couldn’t lose your entire core (except rinne) in one offseason so he had no choice to match the offer and finance what he could. If he played the rest of the contract out, he would own the team in five years.

      http://www.crossingbroad.com/2012/07/shea-weber-will-likely-collect-all-of-the-predators-ticket-revenue-next-season-if-they-match-the-fly.html#more

      • field1314 - Aug 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM

        Never a good sign when your budgeting a 7 million dollar loss

      • field1314 - Aug 4, 2012 at 11:05 PM

        Sorry…he would be majority owner in 14 yrs…not 5

  12. natlbnkilr - Aug 5, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    This is all coming from a sore Flyer fan that LOST Weber to the lowly Predators… Bet it feels great to get out bid by a small fish in the pond. Listen… I could care less if your “team” is trying to buy a cup… you just lost out on one of the best Defensemen in the league… he’s never gonna be a Flyer… Face it. Even if Poile and the Preds owners decide to trade him sometime within the next 14 years… they will probably NEVER use the Flyers as a trading partner again. Let me guess… you have an insider on the Preds ownership too??? Hmmm… looks like your “team” underestimated the depth of the Preds ownership pockets. Wish they had you on their staff… you could have made sure that there’s no way the Preds could match with all that insider info you have. The worst move the Preds have made over the years was allowing your POS team to take some of our best players… not gonna happen any more, period. think its time you worry about your own team… they have a gaping hole in their D and Net!

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Aug 5, 2012 at 1:55 AM

      You know where is the problem. We are not sore losers to the lowly Preds. Sure would have loved to see Shea in Philly but it didn’t happen, oh well. That still doesn’t excuse the fact that Nashville signing Weber was a bad business decision. Your point on how much money Wilson has is mute because you are assuming that he is going to pay for Weber’s contract out of his own pocket and not from business revenue. That is simply ridiculous. The Preds make 25 million in gate receipts and about 55 million in total revenue not including 8 million operating cost losses each year. So tell me since you have such great insight into the Preds ownership like you claim we do, how will they afford this contract in the long term?

      Sorry to tell you bud but nobody wants to play in Nashville it is simply not a strong hockey market, and as far as our POS team when you have a winning record then come talk your smack. Oh yeah, before I forget as far as our gaping holes in D and net well I guess they aren’t too gaping seeing that you got as far as we did with Weber, Suter, Rinne and your hapless bunch of non playoff scoring drunken Russian forwards. Call me when you guys win a cup or even make it to the finals.

    • field1314 - Aug 5, 2012 at 12:56 PM

      I thought I would educate you on your teams finances and the world of business. However, your extremely out there and there is obviously no way of helping you. Good luck with your obsession for preds hockey. It is sad to inform you that if you dont trade shea, your team will be sold to Canada or a bigger US city in a few years.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Aug 5, 2012 at 5:37 PM

        Very true field. I miss the Nordiques, so I hope Shea likes Quebec City.

  13. hines86for6 - Aug 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    listen up doucher field, no one needs you to educate them on their team’s finances. you flyers continually reinforce the notion of the entitled big marketer. Your filthy town is decaying, while Nashville is one of the top 5 growing metro areas in the country per Forbes.

    The Preds are growing with this city as your Flyers mirror the decay of Filthadelphia. Let go. You don’t get to win hockey debates and Free Agents just because you hail from a “traditional market.”

    Those days are long gone. Get the hell over it.

    • field1314 - Aug 6, 2012 at 9:04 PM

      Hines86… Filthadelphia or not, people can afford expensive tickets here and pay for them. Hence the reason for he flyers business success versus your teams business failure 3-4 years straight. Top five growing metro…good for you, you may one day, 15 years from now, be 1/15th the size of Filthadelphia. Im willing to bet you have never stepped foot in this city…but then again, how could you afford it…your from nashville?

      Now how about you try to take a step back, read the article I posted and see that I was simply bipartisan on the matter until you chimed in with your wit and brilliance. Your pal natlbnkilr seemed so confident in their business excellence…and was obviously angry at my “inside knowledge” which consisted of educating myself before complimenting on something. You should try it and so should he.

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