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Penguins go forward with expensive goalie duo

Jul 25, 2012, 10:21 PM EDT

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After years of having a bullet-proof hold over the Pittsburgh Penguins’ starting job, Marc-Andre Fleury finally has a big-name backup in Tomas Vokoun.

Vokoun is a $2 million backup with a legitimate resume, so the question is: how will Fleury handle a significant threat breathing down his neck?

Either way, both goalies would prefer to forget big chunks of last season.

Fleury compiled 42 regular season wins while putting up solid individual numbers, but his playoff work was disastrous. Fleury allowed a stunning 26 goals in just six games against the Philadelphia Flyers.

Vokoun took less money with the Washington Capitals in hopes of winning a Stanley Cup but instead struggled on the ice – when he was healthy enough to even play.

Ultimately, the Penguins hope that at least one of them regains the form that made them much-hyped netminders in the past.

Vokoun’s been a No. 1 guy for a long time and Fleury hasn’t seen a threat to his hold over that role since assuming it, so perhaps Pittsburgh might benefit from both goalies leaving their comfort zones.

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  1. broadstreetbeatdown - Jul 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    The only thing Beach Ball Flower can stop is Sid’s “soup can”…Stop it in his mouth. Stay Girthy

    • hockeyfan1701 - Jul 26, 2012 at 8:16 AM

      Hey broadstreetbeatdown, correct me if I am wrong, didn’t Fluery win a cup in 2009 while your Flyer’s were playing their usual late May early June golf?

      • sizzle299 - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:14 PM

        Correct me if I am wrong, but did his name on the cup stop the 26 goals in six games…..?!?! Aside from the recent cup your team set the standard for playing golf when the flyers were in the first round every year. I guess tanking on purpose at the end of the season is hard work!!!

  2. sportsfreak13 - Jul 25, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    A flyer fan talking bout goaltending? Child please.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:00 PM

      Our goalie was enough to beat your lousy team this year so, uh yeah.

      • sportsfreak13 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:07 PM

        the guy who scored on himself in his last game. Good luck with that. Fleurys playoff was a blip on the radar and the result of team bad defense. Bryz was only constant at sucking so far last year and his good time was the blip. At least when we eliminated the flyers in 09 we won the cup , your probably not old enough to see your team win a championship.

      • dsd3 - Jul 26, 2012 at 4:26 PM

        Fleury’s playoffs weren’t a “blip on the radar.” He’s been embarrassing in the playoffs since the cup run. Historically bad, in fact. Look at the numbers.

      • sportsfreak13 - Jul 26, 2012 at 5:04 PM

        Last year aside a GAA of 2.78 and 2.52 is historically bad? If that’s the case you might want to take a look at bryzgalovs playofs numbers the last three years. Yikes.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:33 PM

      Flower Power will repeat his lousy performance next season. I’m old enough to remember when the Hens were a heartbeat away from going to Kansas City due to your awesome fan base. Losers.

      • sportsfreak13 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:42 PM

        so your 7. Good talk.

      • afinemessi - Jul 26, 2012 at 12:53 AM

        it’s funny, because you are accusing someone of being 7 yet you don’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re”. bravo!

        @sportsfreak13: so your 7. Good talk.

      • tsi431 - Jul 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM

        afinemessi – Jul 26, 2012 at 12:53 AM

        it’s funny, because you are accusing someone of being 7 yet you don’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re”. bravo!

        @sportsfreak13: so your 7. Good talk.
        ——————————————————–

        Ah, how cute, did you learn that in 3rd grade English today?

  3. flyersgoalscoredby88 - Jul 25, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    Only the Penguins could draft a replacement level player w the first pick in the 2003 draft. Fleury sucks. The career numbers of Jose Theodore, only without the vezina or hart. Yea he’s got a cup…in the same sense that Trent Dilfer has a super bowl.

    • tsi431 - Jul 26, 2012 at 8:21 AM

      Trent Dilfer being a Super Bowl winning QB still baffles me. Poor Dan Marino.

      • ravenscaps48 - Jul 26, 2012 at 9:11 AM

        HOW DARE YOU TALK NEGATIVE ABOUT TRENT DILFER, HE’S A SAINT!!!…….. Hahaha

    • bobhpine - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM

      How old were you in 1975?

      • sizzle299 - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:17 PM

        I was flying blackhawk helicopters over Vietnam while you were sucking on your mama’s titty at woodstock. [not applicable but a great move quote..]

  4. sportsfreak13 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Again another flyer fan who wouldn’t know good goaltending to save his life. 42 wins isn’t something to laugh at , and his save on lindstrom in game 7 with seconds left is just an example of his big game/moment saves throughout his career.

    • stakex - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:31 PM

      Fleury had 42 wins last season because the Pens scored far more goals per game then any other team. He didn’t have to be good in net to win a lot of games… he just couldn’t be completely awful.

      I don’t know whats so hard for Pens fans to understand about Fleury, but the Pens were lucky to win a cup with him in net. They won inspite of him, not becasue of him. If they are ever going to win the Cup again, the odds are they will need someone else in the net. Lightning tends not to strike the same spot twice after all…

      Its also worth pointing out that the save on Lidstrom wasn’t as amazing as the announcers made it sound. Its a save pretty much any pro goalie SHOULD make. It would have actually been a very soft goal had it gone in. Besides, one big save does not make a career…. or define a player.

      • sportsfreak13 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:39 PM

        everything in your comment proves your knowledge as a hockey fan. Enough said.

      • crosberries - Jul 26, 2012 at 9:17 AM

        yeah seriously fleury stinks its not like her took them to the last round in the playoffs two years in a row or anything. Oh wait nvm.

      • crosberries - Jul 26, 2012 at 9:18 AM

        He*

  5. danaking - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    When Fleury is on, he’s as good as anyone. He’s not consistent enough to be thought of as one of the truly elite goalies, but he’s definitely in the top half of the league, easily in the top 10 when he’s on his game.

    • flyeredup202 - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM

      You could say the same thing about Bryz….. still doesnt meant they are top 5 goalies.

    • flyeredup202 - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM

      You could say the same thing about Bryz….. still doesnt meant they are top 10 goalies.

    • dsd3 - Jul 26, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      “When Fleury is on”

      So, never?

  6. jnealsmeatymember - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    1975 how damn pathetic 1975

  7. mclovinhockey - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Fact is, neither of our teams should be bragging about our goalies.. Both goalies have been laughed at and had burning hot streaks last year.

  8. jnealsmeatymember - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    I cant wait to see The Franchise put the beatdown on the broadstreet vaginas from start to finish, especially when Soup Can drowns them all in his thick ropes and floods Filthy1975delphia until they break off into hell. 1975 HAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT LOSERS!!

    • 28giroux28 - Jul 26, 2012 at 12:14 AM

      The insight and logic you bring forth in each and every one of your posts astounds me.

      • govtminion - Jul 26, 2012 at 1:06 AM

        Even though it’s the same post over and over again?

  9. murtdurt - Jul 26, 2012 at 2:50 AM

    Give up the spelling grammar correction on peoples posts already (which by the way are probably made on iPhones or iPads that correct it for you) Are you everyone’s grade 2 teacher? If your going to do some elementary education do some quick math and tell me how long it’s been since the fly have actually wont ANYTHING. What’s 2009 minus 1975?? A whole bunch of numbers is what I’d guess but none of us on PHT apparently passed pre-school so hey congrats on your championship way back in the day.. We all remember it like it was yesterday….

  10. theageofquarrel - Jul 26, 2012 at 4:33 AM

    If the Flyers are so great,then why does every other team in the Atlantic have more cups? The Flyers are the big franchise that when it counts comes up very very small.

  11. earlcpeacock - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:12 AM

    the flyers are the biggest joke in nhl.history. their fans are an embarassment every year with their assaults on other fans at games and how they think their team is going to win the cup haha. laughable i know… the soup can army has standards and the philthy flyers are about as pathetic as an organization could be. bandwagoners, STAY LOSING

    • flyeredup202 - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:41 AM

      Wow… you guys have class? Did i miss the fact that your Gm came out last year and said he was embarrassed from the way his team had acted or played? Class thats funny… and the flyers are never going to be a broke A$$ team like the Pens because our fans are LOYAL and show up win or lose…. take your soup can and shove it

      • bobhpine - Jul 26, 2012 at 2:14 PM

        OK OK…the Flyers are a classy franchise, what were we all thinking? You have all of the class and none of the cups. When is the parade scheduled for your classiness?

        These are all issues made important by a loser mentality. The flyers have more class, the flyers have better fans…blah blah blah.

        1974, 1975

        1991, 1992, 2009

        you lose….loser

  12. letangusespertplus - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:17 AM

    i was driving through dirty jersey last week and i could smell the flyers training camp gearing up. those perms will be more pubic than ever

  13. earlcpeacock - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:27 AM

    im sorry you had to experience that horror letang.. nobody in the soup can army deserves to have that rancid pube ginger stench in their nose hole.. my thoughts and prayers are with you..

  14. mclovinhockey - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:29 AM

    @earlspeasizedcock
    Did you really call the flyers fans “bandwagoner”?
    WOW!!!!!

    I’m assuming you are a teenager or have no insight about this sport.

    Bandwagoners are fans that only cheer for their team when they are winning.
    When Philly was last in the league they still had top 10 in attendance, they have it every year.
    When Pitt was last in the league…. Well 30th in attendance while about to have a franchise sold because of the fan base…. Yeah, that’s right. Pitt is considered top 3 bandwagon fan bases in the league.

    As for Philly (the first ever expansion team to win a cup, paving the way for more cities to get teams and showing the league hockey can work in more than 6 cities) and the team that showed the red army team that north American hockey is better than European hockey (during the middle of this whole US VS Russia thing which you may have heard about), which is why the KHL isn’t the number one hockey league in the world right now.

    But yeah Philly is the laughing stock of the NHL.

    Maybe you should write for bleacher report. They would pay for your level of intelligence over there.

    • letangusespertplus - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:45 AM

      so he’s saying they aren’t bandwagon fans cause philthy cant win. got it.

    • mmmpierogi - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:55 AM

      (1) Seriously – Why are you arguing with joke posters?

      (2) “Bandwagoners are fans that only cheer for their team when they are winning. When Philly was last in the league they still had top 10 in attendance, they have it every year. When Pitt was last in the league…. Well 30th in attendance while about to have a franchise sold because of the fan base…. Yeah, that’s right. Pitt is considered top 3 bandwagon fan bases in the league. ”

      When was Philly last in the league when they had top 10 attendance? Was it the one year in the mid-to-late 2000’s when the Flyers had a poor record, because Flyers fans have made this argument before. One year of poor performance out of a team that is a solid performer otherwise will not do the same thing to attendance in a city that a trend of five or ten years of mediocre or poor performance will; when the Pens attendance was down, they’d had longer periods of inconsistent or poor performance than this. Also, not sure how familiar you are with population demographics, but last time I checked, Pittsburgh isn’t NYC — when teams that aren’t the Steelers have a down year, there aren’t hordes and hordes (and hordes and hordes) of people available to still buy tickets. Philly metro population is more than twice the size of Pittsburgh metro (about 2.4 to 6.0) — more cogs to buy tickets there. Finally, even in the years when the Pens were middling (e.g., late 1990’s), attendance wasn’t even that bad. Going back to the mid 1990’s …

      1994-95: Avg attendance was 16108 (a few teams that were similar or lower: Philly, Montreal, NJ, Toronto, Buffalo, Boston, Washington, etc..)
      1995-96: Avg attendance was 16238 (a few teams that were similar or lower: Philly, NJ, Toronto, Washington, Buffalo, etc.)
      1996-97: Avg attendance was 16691 (a few teams that were similar or lower: Vancouver, Calgary, Buffalo, NJ, Washington, Boston, etc..)
      1997-98: Avg attendance was 15070 (a few teams that were similar or lower: Buffalo, Washington, Boston, etc..)
      1998-99: This *definitely* was the down year for them, as they were fifth from the bottom in the league and not close to those with whom they’re normally similar to.
      1999-00: Avg attendance was 15443 (a few teams that were similar or lower: Boston, Chicago, Calgary, NJ, Washington, etc..)
      2000-01: Avg attendance was 16,277 (a few teams that were similar or lower: Vancouver, Calgary, Washington, NJ, Boston, Chicago, etc..)

      This trend basically continues up through today. There was one other year when the Pens were in the bottom three in the NHL concerning attendance: 2003-04. Aside from that, annual attendance is on par with cities like Washington, Boston, Chicago, Buffalo, etc. If you look through NHL attendance records, all team’s attendance bounces around, and attendance rates seem to be sensitive in almost all markets to the team’s success — Pittsburgh is no different in that regard. You people who spit up this bandwagon fan garbage or act like attendance is garbage in Pittsburgh need to check your facts before opening your mouths.

      • bobhpine - Jul 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM

        No one read that…your team never wins a championship…ha

  15. jnealsmeatymember - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:52 AM

    Jump on the bandwagon and join @soupcanarmy where we discuss sids wagon-wheel girth and his unwordly skillset. Quit denying yourself the greatest pleasure in life and come pleasure urself to soupcan!

  16. earlcpeacock - Jul 26, 2012 at 7:14 AM

    mclovinhockey, you need to.show pittsburgh some respect. if you wasnt for our greatness and our championship winnings, the state of PA would be winless. show some class and respect the soup can army cus we are the best thing that ever happened to pennsylvania brah

  17. mclovinhockey - Jul 26, 2012 at 7:34 AM

    3 responses, 2, minutes, 1 person, 0 intelligent remarks

    That is the can of soup for you.

  18. jnealsmeatymember - Jul 26, 2012 at 7:34 AM

    Its obvious that mclovin is at the point in her life where she has nightly dreams of living in PGH and havin soup can throttle her with his trouser trout.

  19. earlcpeacock - Jul 26, 2012 at 8:00 AM

    soup can army has many members. the most passionate pens fans are in the army. too bad philthadelphians are a bunch of classless bandwagoners to ever form a group and stick together. theyd rather beat each other up then 69 each other

  20. letangusespertplus - Jul 26, 2012 at 8:38 AM

    soup can army runs deeper than your moms holes.

  21. antmel30 - Jul 26, 2012 at 8:47 AM

    Penns fans face it your goalie is horrible that’s why they signed vokoun. Your d and team is same as last year minus a very good stall who wouldn’t accept an 10 year offer because I can’t remember a time Pitt landed a big time free agent. Soup can army sounds like a food drive to support your bankrupt city. The best part is we won’t have to put up with you in a couple years when Pitt fails to make playoffs because you guys disappear when your team sucks. Penns fans did you guys like dark night rises because they needed a dirty grungy city to film in and guess who’s they chose you got soup canners Pittsburg

  22. mclovinhockey - Jul 26, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    I am still on my phone but I can’t make a nice bet that my posts have more thumbs up than the canned army. Considering the only people who thumb down my comments or thumb up your comments are the one man known as soup can army with 200 accounts.

    The Can never had friends in his life, so he just created them… Multiple personality disorder is something that needs psychiatric attention.

    • fleurystooths - Jul 26, 2012 at 9:17 AM

      Can’t stop. WON’T stop. Uh-uh, Uh-uh.

  23. filthadelphiadivers - Jul 26, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    I don’t understand where Philly fans think they have any grounds to talk about pittsburghs goaltending. While Fleury may not be the most reliable all the time, he had 42 wins last year and has a cup under his belt. What has philly’s goaltenders done recently? Consistency may not be a strong point of fleury’s, but Philly hasn’t had a good goaltender in general for years.

    • hockeyfan1701 - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:51 AM

      The had one in 1975

    • dsd3 - Jul 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM

      Because as bad as Bryz was in the series against Pittsburgh, he was still a lot better than Fleury. And he wasn’t the problem in the NJ series. He actually played fairly well, despite the rest of the team being completely outplayed.

  24. jnealsmeatymember - Jul 26, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Shove ur thumbs in ur philthy female hatchet wound, SCA and THE Franchise is unstoppable

  25. earlcpeacock - Jul 26, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    pittsburgh is PAs sports city. WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS MY FRIENDS

  26. bobhpine - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Attention to anyone attempting to reason with these mental midgets from Philly…they don’t care about actually winning cups…that first round series against the penguins was all that will ever matter for time immemorial.

    The banner raising for the 2011-2012 playoff appearance will be held in October. Maybe you tools can go offer 100 million to Dominik Hasek. He will probably turn it down since Philly is a wretched hell hole, but it would at least be an attempted upgrade over flowers for algernon Bryz boy.

    1975

  27. theenutty - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    I dont understand the expensive goalie duo title…the penguins have 7m tied up in their goaltending, which according to Capgeek isnt that out of the ballpark. Vokoun for 2m, who was one of the top goalies in the entire league not two seasons ago is a steal, especially with fleurys inconsistent play. I would have loved to have vokoun to go to in that philly series when fleury couldnt stop a beach ball from going in…

  28. jnealsmeatymember - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Guess thats why Pens have been selling out every game for a decade, evrytime they play in Filthy the seats are taken over by SoupCan jerseys just to watch him and The Franchise make them humble. 1975 HAHAHAHAA what a shame to be such losers!! Soup can strong since 87!

  29. earlcpeacock - Jul 26, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    hey perogie, im glad you wasted an hours worth of work to write a bunch of non sense mumbo jumbo fake stats. haha get your facts straight brah. LOSERS SINCE 1975

  30. suepeacock - Jul 26, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Flyers fans wives haven’t been stretched by a girthy soupcan since 1975 …

  31. filthadelphiadivers - Jul 26, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    The fans wives maybe haven’t….but it seems like the players wives get passed around on a daily basis lol

  32. jnealsmeatymember - Jul 26, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    And now their all dried up like a pile of dead leaves

  33. earlcpeacock - Jul 26, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    http://thickarmy.tumblr.com/

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