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So … what do the Flyers do now?

Jul 24, 2012, 6:11 PM EDT

Paul Holmgren AP

What a difference a matched offer sheet makes.

Instead of snatching up a quick Chris Pronger replacement in Shea Weber, the Philadelphia Flyers now stare at an unsettling situation on their blueline. It’s bad enough that they’re likely to be without both Pronger and Weber, but GM Paul Holmgren also let Matt Carle bolt to the Bolts.

That leaves the Flyers with a lot of questions on defense, which isn’t fantastic news for a team that probably wanted to ease Ilya Bryzgalov into his second season as their should-be franchise goalie.

Kimmo Timonen and Braydon Coburn ranks as the team’s most obvious top pairing, but Travis Hughes illuminates worries that Timonen is getting old and Coburn might not be able to do much more than he already has.

To Hughes and other onlookers such as Gus Katsaros, the Flyers need to make a change – and the most obvious route seems to be adding a blueliner via the trade route. Would a guy like Jay Bouwmeester stop the bleeding?

Hughes brings up one other idea since the UFA pool is shallow: could they take a shot at another offer sheet? There are a few guys to choose from, including P.K. Subban.

It’s a tough situation, but the Flyers might need to come up with a Plan B.


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  1. mclovinhockey - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    I have no idea how to spell his name but coriacacovo might be a good addition to the blue line.

    They got weaker on O, D and in net… Nothing really can change that now.

    • lionsflyersandredbirds - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:41 PM

      I agree that the Flyers will be weaker on defense, but I don’t really see the Flyers being any weaker on offense or in goal.

      JVR played minimal games last season (43GP-24Pts) and while Jagr scored 54 points he clearly benefitted from the likes of playing with Claude Giroux. Those two departures are known talents but the development of our younger players will be huge for the team this year (even more so than it was last year). Schenn is 20, Coots is 19, Voracek will be 23, and Simmonds will be 24 at the start of the season. All of those guys now have a year of Lavs-style hockey experience in both the regular and post seasons. I think they can step in and fill the void left by Jags and JVR. Oh and that Matt Read guy showed he can score some goals.

      I think Bryz can only be better next season. He’s now had a full year to acclimate himself to the ‘torrid’ Philadelphia media blah blah blah. And Michael Leighton will be fine as long as Patrick Kane doesnt shoot low…

      Then there’s that issue of a lock-out…

      • anthonykornheiser - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:47 PM

        keep telling yourself that.

      • stakex - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:15 PM

        In case you haven’t noticed lately, strong goaltending and defense wins championships. Right now, the Flyers have neither. Just look at the playoffs this year. The only reason the Flyers beat the Pens was because Fleury (the most over rated goalie in the NHL right now) was somehow able to play worse then Bryzgalov, and the Pens just gave up playing defense. Once the Flyers played a team that had a solid defense, they were blown out because they were unable to score enough to cover the fact they couldn’t keep the puck out of their own net.

        As for Bryzgalov being better next year, yeah ok…. good luck with that. His stats last season are actually pretty on par with his career numbers. The Flyers simply expected him, a so-so goalie for most of his career, to play like a super star if they paid him like one. Obviously that didn’t work last season, and theres little reason to expect it to this season.

      • lionsflyersandredbirds - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:53 PM

        When did I say anything about winning a championship? I was responding to a post claiming that the Flyers’ offense, defense, and goaltending were going to be weaker next year.

        With the team we have currently assembled I don’t feel as though we can make it to the Stanley Cup finals, let alone win one. Obviously we have to address our blue line in the absence of Carle and Pronger (and in the presence of an aged Timmonen) before I can begin to think about changing that statement…

    • biasedhomer - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:27 PM

      please no, if you are talking about the injury waiting to happen guy on the Blues. He is a 3rd line pairing at best, and is bound to get injured. We already signed a depth Dman in Bruno Grevis.

      • mickeyb21 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:52 AM

        Colaiacavo played top pairing on the best defense in the NHL, but I guess to you he is 3rd line pairing at best. Gervis was scratched on one of the worst defenses in the NHL, apparently clearly better than Carlo to you. Just because he has had injuries in the past does not make him AHL material like you are suggesting.

      • biasedhomer - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15 PM

        You obviously have not watched him play. He was horrible. He is a depth player, and can work on a 2nd unit power play. The Blues really had no other options for the top pairing. He was arguably their worst defensemen, on a team that plays a style that is very defensemen friendly.

        I did not say he is AHL material, he is 3rd pairing material,when hes healthy, but he is made of glass.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 25, 2012 at 9:41 AM

      they are thin but not screwed on D. they shouldve went for some depth guys early instead of striking out on the big names like suter and weber. dont expect anything less from holmgren but there were a few quality cheaper guys they couldve snatched up, resigning carle wouldve helped too.

  2. goblues29 - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    oh please, take cola, he is like playing in a glass house. broken….

  3. paul621 - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    I’ve read so many stories about how the Flyers would have the best blue line in the league with Weber, and now it’s a problem area without him? No single player makes the difference between those extremes.

  4. jmebro - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    Get a life mcassface

  5. ct14flyers - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    The Flyers trade for Bobby Ryan now. Even though they don’t need it.

    • icdogg - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:45 AM

      wouldn’t shock me

  6. Stiller43 - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    Timonen GETTING old?

  7. dougr42 - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    “bolt for the Bolts” REALLY? I know you’re just hockey bloggers but please try to do better.

  8. cheers4ablumpkin - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    They kill them selfs

  9. cheers4ablumpkin - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    They kill them selfs

  10. hockeyfan28 - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    The flyers simply had a team match the offer they made for a player who wanted to sign with them that was under contract with the other team. Let these young guys grow together. You just lost Jagr and JVR and added Shenn the team is basicallly the same as the one that collapsed against Jersey. Weber would have been great but Nashville which will probably lose alot of money over this contract decided it was better to take a big financial loss then a total collapse of the fan base.

    • biasedhomer - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:31 PM

      Either way it was a lose lose situation for Nash. They’ll find the money somehow, however with a lockout, it will be difficult. If they dont get the money, the team moves to Canada. If they didnt match, I’ve read Preds fans say they would no longer support the franchise. So then they would also risk relocation. Its really hard to have a team in not only a small market, but one who’s fans seem to want to jump so easily.

  11. jacketsfan7 - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Ik what to do! Sell your team to Quebec and well all be happy!

    • claysbar - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:58 PM

      I really hope that a Jackets fan isn’t talking about lousy teams that should move somewhere else.

  12. buffalomafia - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    Drop back 10 and punt!

    They should be worrying about getting a good goalie cause theres stinks!

  13. natlbnkilr - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    Hahahahahahaha!!!! So much for the Flyers D & their 2012-13 Season. Welcome back to Nashville Shea! Signed – Proud Predator Season Ticket Holder

    • biasedhomer - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:03 PM

      I would still consider the Flyers a contender for next year, along with the Rangers, Pens, Bruins, Canucks, Red Wings, Blackhawks, Kings, and Blues.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:50 PM

      I hope Shea likes Quebec City.

      • icdogg - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:44 AM

        I’d rather be there than in Nashville. I’m not into country music

  14. phillyphever - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    Eh, I’m not worrying too much. Can’t make a panic move. Besides, losing Carle and Jagr isn’t a big loss (Jagr gassed out the end of the year and Carle was basically a turnover waiting to happen). I rather just resign Voracek, be done with the offseason and save the cap space for the trade deadline.

  15. firemarshal1 - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Oh Flyers fans, you’re in for a long season. No defense and poor goaltending equals high scoring games with a mediocre record. You’ll be lucky to make the playoffs as eighth seed. If lucky, you’ll be early exit in the playoffs. Philadelphia reminds me of the NY Rangers of the 1980’s, just an average team that will be overhyped by their media and fans. Hey Flyer fans, you should be happy with your former players who just won the Stanley Cup. Thank Paul Holgreen

    • hockeyfan28 - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:36 PM

      It was sure was fun beating pittsburgh though

  16. hockeyfan28 - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Its kinda funny that all these Nashville fans on here that are happy the Preds matched use the same kinda language as Penguins fans and where never around before go figure.

  17. babar61 - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    Wow. I understand bashing rival teams and all but take off the hater glasses people. The flyers are still very talented and will easily make the playoffs next year.

    • napoleonblownapart6887 - Jul 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM

      The Flyers are a very talented team up front to be certain but I think there are questions on the back end of your team. That’s not to say they’re not capable of making the playoffs or even making a cup run, but it’s also a fair criticism.

      • babar61 - Jul 25, 2012 at 2:14 PM

        I’m not even a flyers fan, I just think they are still a good team. No doubt they have some big question marks (especially in net). However some of the hate they get seems unnecessary.

  18. icdogg - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    Flyers don’t need to be in a hurry to do anything. They’ll make the playoffs without question, so they can just try to make moves when they are available before the trade deadline.

  19. broadstreetbeatdown - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    Seeing that we have “crappy” goaltending and D we can always take solace in the fact that the Hens have crappier goaltending and D.

    • ron05342 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:15 PM

      In that regard, instead of “Kings East” your new nickname should be “Penguins East.”

    • napoleonblownapart6887 - Jul 25, 2012 at 10:00 AM

      Crappier goaltending? Don’t know about that. Last season MAF had a better save %, better GAA, and a better record than Bryz. He also performed markedly better in the shootout for what that’s worth.

      As for having crappier D… well I don’t know about that either. Orpik and Letang would be the #1 Defensemen on your team today, and the Pens have a ton of you defensive talent that should provide a nice boost this year.

      I know you’re disappointed about not getting Weber but don’t be silly here…

  20. jimw81 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    As flyers fan, i think they screwed this year.there defense has holes and goaltender is living in different world. It’s pointless at this point trading young talent on the roster and I can’t see the flyers players producing same numbers as last year. They are going to take a step back and not making the playoffs or be lucky to be 8th seed.

  21. ray2013 - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Bouwmeester is not a bad option to look at. He’s a big cap hit, doesn’t provide a ton of offence, but plays all big minutes against top lines for the Flames in a shut-down role. Someone was going to lose the Suter/Weber sweepstakes, and the Flames’ only area of real depth is on the blueline. They have tradeable assets and teams who need a d-man could look there. Good suggestion.

    • icdogg - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:41 AM

      interesting idea

      • jimw81 - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:55 AM

        jaybo is past his prime.

  22. muir6 - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

    There is always next offseason flyer fans

  23. flyerscup2010 - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    Broad Street Hockey blows, Travis Hughes probably wants them to replace Pronger with Danny Syvret…again

    • jimw81 - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:50 AM

      site is awful. but he got media pass, thats only thing that matters.

  24. cameltoews - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:02 AM

    What about Keith Yandle? I haven’t heard his name since the beginning of the offseason. Is he no longer a trade option?

    • jimw81 - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:51 AM

      good luck, they want same players Nashville wanted.

  25. mattmc20 - Jul 25, 2012 at 7:39 AM

    Another Flyers failure story……boring.

  26. joewilliesshnoz - Jul 25, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Poor Philthy, another player turns down the city of brotherly scum, go figure.

    • ahs393 - Jul 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM

      Obviously you are a completely ignorant penguins fan. Weber wanted to come to Philly, but he has no choice but to go back to Nashville because they matched the offer. You obviously know nothing about hockey.

  27. muir6 - Jul 25, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Thankfully there are rational Philly fans like ahs to explain it to us. Offseason Dynasties and the city of brotherly love what a joke

    • biasedhomer - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM

      nice second account

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