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Report: Philadelphia, Shea Weber agree on a 14-year offer sheet

Jul 19, 2012, 1:21 AM EDT

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According to TSN’s Darren Dreger, the Nashville Predators had been talking to multiple teams including the Detroit Red Wings, San Jose Sharks, New York Rangers, and the Philadelphia Flyers about the possibility of trading restricted free agent Shea Weber. However, it seems the Flyers got tired of waiting.

Philly wants Weber, and apparently Weber wouldn’t mind wearing a Flyers uniform. Dreger is reporting that Philadelphia and the All-Star defenseman have agreed to a 14-year deal upwards of $100 million.

Before Flyers fans take to the streets in celebration, keep in mind that there’s one very big sticking point: the Nashville Predators will have a week to match this offer. If they choose to let him go, the Flyers will be forced to compensate Nashville with draft picks.

As we previously mentioned, Predators GM David Poile and the team’s ownership would be in for a huge backlash from the fans if they allowed Weber to walk, especially after their inability to re-sign Ryan Suter earlier this month.

On top of that, the Nashville Predators are currently $13,345,833 million under the salary floor with 18 players penciled in for their 2012-13 roster, according to Cap Geek. So not only do they have the space to afford this massive contract, they actually kind of need it just to get closer to the floor.

In some ways, this might turn out to be the Flyers handing the Predators the mother of all gifts. All Nashville has to do is match it and it’ll get him for the rest of his career.

That being said, maybe they’ll decide that this contract is too rich for them, even after factoring in their salary floor concerns. One consideration is that the contract is believed to be heavily frontloaded. If Nashville accepts the deal, they could have to pay Weber $26 million over the course of a single calender year.

One way or another, we’ll find out soon enough.

111 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. sandeepsingh1 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:23 AM

    And I thought Paul Holmgren was done for the summer.

    • icdogg - Jul 19, 2012 at 6:46 AM

      Big time offer, this

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:13 AM

      And just to think the shill for the pens Piere Mcquire back on draft day exclaimed that the Penguins are the beast of the east defensively with a snot nose rookie !

      • drewsylvania - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

        You’re saying this as if Philly has Weber already–they don’t, and there’s a significant chance the Preds will match.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:39 AM

        Trust me this is a slam dunk ! The Flyers were trying to be nice and work out a trade but Nashville would not play ball so Homer has put them in checkmate with this offer ! Nashville will have to come up with $27 million in the first calendar year to keep him, Homer has crushed them financially ! Can you say welcome to Broad St Mr Weber ?

  2. flyersphan28 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:29 AM

    i have a question im hoping some1 could answer for me, now instead of nashville matching it, can they set up a trade or can they only match the offer sheet or allow him to go for four first round picks? hopefully can get the answer im lookin for, thanks!

    • DTF31 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:32 AM

      They either match or let him walk right now. Now, either in a calender year or after July 1 next season they can trade him.

      • icdogg - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:04 AM

        I think they can still set up a trade with the Flyers but basically it would be a conditional trade where the condition was that Nashville did not match, where the four first rounders which Nashville was to obtain would be traded back to the Flyers for other compensation.

        The Flyers obtained Chris Gratton in a similar fashion, with a similar trade-back, they got their 3 1st rounders back in exchange for Renberg and Dykhuis.

  3. bowens3181 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:30 AM

    They can set up a trade now. This basically ensures that the only team they can trade with is Philly.

  4. hockeyfootball98 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    I think Weber knows Nashville wont match and i wouldnt be surprised if Philly trades Coburn or Mez to Nashvulle

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:10 AM

      Coburn has a no trade clause

    • ml3939 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:28 AM

      I am a big Coburn advocate but I think Nashville would rather have first round picks than the 2 players you are mentioning as this move probably puts them into somewhat of a rebuilding mode.

  5. dirkanger23 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    Well that’s 1 way to solidify your D-corps for the next few years. Homer has absolute Balls of Iron.

  6. michael90212 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:52 AM

    It would be insane for Poile not to match. As the article stated, this loophole in the CBA gives Nashville the gift of matching and locking up Weber for the rest of his career, at a cap hit that they can handle. Even if Weber would have preferred to leave Nashville when he became a UFA, this offer sheet ensures that Poile doesn’t even need to bother with negotiations, or worry about other teams luring him away. All he has to do is match, and he has Weber for the rest of his career.

    • sandeepsingh1 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:56 AM

      Yeah your absolutely right, as a Flyers fan I’m going to try to not be too excited because when that happens, it always ends up badly.

      • michael90212 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:23 AM

        Depends on how much $$$ is up front. Nashville owner may not allow Poile to spend significantly more than what the cap hit would be. If we’re looking at $12-15 with signing bonuses the first few years (similar to Parise/Suter) then Poile’s hands might be tied.

    • favisceglia - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:20 AM

      There are some things working against him. First, he’s likely to be one of the GMs clamoring for a reduction in the salary cap for the next CBA. Furthermore, if the contract is truly front-loaded to pay as much as $26M in the first year, Poile may not be able to afford that. It’s not just a salary cap game; he needs to be able to make payroll like any other business and boss. Do I feel he is likely to match? Yes. But if he determines it’s not financially feasible, it doesn’t matter how much hockey-sense it makes to match the offer.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:13 AM

      yep you’re right the Flyers just did the Preds a favor, although it’ll be interesting to see what the NHL has to say about this since one of their bargaining points was maximum 5 year contracts with no front loading.

  7. jimw81 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:57 AM

    Dreger tweeted “Hearing in one calendar year, he could make $26 mil.” your looking at signing bonus + salary Nash has no chance to match it. its make a trade or take 4 1st rounders. Last four first round picks made by Flyers were 20, 25, 29 and 21.

    • favisceglia - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:17 AM

      Nashville cannot trade him. He has signed the offer sheet, meaning his rights belong to either Nashville (if they match within 7 days) or Philadelphia (if they don’t match). An RFA who has signed an offer sheet cannot be traded under the current CBA.

  8. ray2013 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:00 AM

    I am surprised this thread hasn’t been overrun with Flyers fans predicting 14 straight Cups. But I hope that Nashville matches. Would suck otherwise.

    • sheckyrimshot - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:15 AM

      we remember the fallout from the kesler offer sheet

      • isithockeyseasonyet - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:57 AM

        They are arrogant and deluded and if you’re a pens fan, add stupid to your list on account of your lack of picking up on sarcasm

    • icdogg - Jul 19, 2012 at 6:51 AM

      Woo Hoo! 14 straight cups!

      • icdogg - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

        didn’t want to disappoint

      • claysbar - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:12 AM

        And they call Pens fans arrogant and deluded…

      • handsofsweed - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

        Geezus, man. You didn’t GET the absolute “I’m not even remotely serious when I say this” overtone in icdogg’s comment?

        Or maybe your response was the same type as his…NOT serious at all. If so, then that was a brilliant and hilarious response, sir.

      • ray2013 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:42 PM

        LOL. I deserved that.

  9. finfan88shark - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:10 AM

    Not a surprise that the “tire kicker” Doug Wilson would be in trade talks for his rights. But also know surprise he could not get the deal done.

  10. favisceglia - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:23 AM

    Everyone is talking about the money, cap hit and compensatory picks – in the end, this likely boils down to Weber’s decision. If his agent tells Poile that they want to go to Philly, Poile has no incentive to match the offer. If Weber would be demanding a trade in a year or two, there is no reason for Poile to pay $26M this year for Weber. If Weber is okay with playing in Nashville for the next decade or so, I believe Poile has every reason to match.

  11. favisceglia - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:26 AM

    The interesting question here is: Did Weber sign this offer sheet because he wants to play in Philly, or did he sign this offer sheet just to get the money he wants out of Nashville? Interesting tactic either way.

    • jernster21 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:56 AM

      Obviously he wouldn’t mind playing in Philly if he signed it, but by signing it, he damn well knows Nashville has the ability to match so he probably doesn’t care either way unless he knows more about the Nashville owners/situation than any of us do and he’s betting on it not being matched. Thing is, this is pretty much the same deal as Suter so Poile had to expect it’d be in this neighborhood anyway so it can’t be too much of a shock.

    • icdogg - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:19 AM

      Whether Nashville matches or not he’s got a great deal. He can be happy either way. So I don’t think he’s really angling for the destination so much as the deal.

    • paperlions - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:54 AM

      The fact that he would sign such a sheet indicates that he wouldn’t mind being in Nashville for the long haul. If he wanted to make sure he wouldn’t be in Nashville long-term, then he wouldn’t have signed any long-term sheet, he could just wait to become an unrestricted FA and sign somewhere with no danger of being locked in to Nashville.

  12. buffalosportsfan711 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:38 AM

    The one thing that makes the least sense to me is how a flyer team with only $7.8 million in cap space (on an already unstable cap with all signs pointing to a decrease) and who still needs to sign RFA Jakub Voracek can fit a contract with a cap hit that should be more than the cap space they have left at the moment, around 8 million give or take a few for Weber can even offer a contract like this one. Also if by some means this actually goes through and they obtain Weber, at least one of your high cap hit players will probably have to be moved even if they are going to think they have a chance at signing Voracek.

    P.S. There is also Pronger’s almost 5 million dollar cap hit for the next 5 years that can’t be moved because its a 35+ contract

    • flyersphan28 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:41 AM

      in regards to the pronger contract…. theres rumors that in the new cba, that they will allow an over 35 contract to come the cap as long as the player is forced to retire due to a legitamite injury, i think there really banking on that hahah

    • andyb02 - Jul 19, 2012 at 5:11 AM

      Long term injury reserve will take most of prongers cap hit off the books and Timonen’s 6 mil cap hit will be off the books after this season. I think they’ll be very close to the cap ceiling if Weber signs with Philly but they won’t spend more than their allowed. Their full time job is to manage the cap so I trust them to have it under control.

    • mikeyhigs - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:21 AM

      The CBA allows teams to be 10% over the cap during the summer, which gives them another $7 million of wiggle room. Once the season starts, Pronger goes to long term injured reserve, which wipes his $4.9 off the cap. If he were to retire, his hit won’t come off the cap. So if there are no other moves up Homers sleeve and Voracek, as expected, signs for less than Prongers salary, they will be fine.

    • sizzle299 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:08 AM

      What doesn’t make sense? They will need to lose a player or two at some point, either by trading to get back into the first round, trading away a D, or downgrading 3rd or 4th lines… its Weber man….

    • ml3939 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:33 AM

      Is Buffalo that remote that you are only familiar with some of the rules?

  13. bleed4philly - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:39 AM

    And boom goes the dynamite

  14. jernster21 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:50 AM

    Wow, Poile just got a gift on a silver platter (as did the fans who are sick of hearing no news updates in regards to contract negotiations between Nashville and Weber.) The stigma of offer sheets in the NHL needs to go away anyway, it happens in the NBA all the time and you don’t hear about GMs/Owners crying themselves to sleep every night about it. Front loaded or not he’s just entering his prime, give him whatever it is because it’ll only get easier as years pass by. As mentioned, unless Poile is straight up told no by the owner then he’ll be finishing his career in Nashville.

  15. katolungile - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:11 AM

    You match and then get the salary rollback…

  16. kitshky - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:14 AM

    …and the owners still wanna cry poverty and try and call for a salary reduction. If tthey actually lock out the players and drag on a CBA negotiation I’m pretty sure we’re all allowed to kick each and every owner directly in the balls …and Bettman three times each.

    • handsofsweed - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:17 AM

      Is that 3 times for EACH ball, or is it just three in the scrote, regardless of testicular quantity?

  17. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:15 AM

    If the Preds see themselves as the ‘Nashville Preds’ in 14 years then this gets matched in a couple of days.

  18. rekingcrew - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:19 AM

    Chase the money sell-out!

  19. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:22 AM

    The subtext of this: the Preds-Weber talks aren’t going great so Shea steps back and says, “This is what other teams think I’m worth. Here’s the proof. Your move.”

  20. letsgonyr94 - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:26 AM

    This is a big win for Nashville. There is no doubt that they will match this. You get to keep Weber (one of the best D in the league) for the rest of his career and for only $7 million a year?

    Instead of a long battle with Weber and his agents, the Predators can just match this and it’s over. Philly did the dirty work for them. Last year they went to arbitration and waited until August 2nd. They had to give him a 1yr $7.5mill deal. Now they’re paying a little less and they get him for the rest of his career.

    Like the article states, they aren’t even at the cap floor yet. Obviously the cap is going to go down (if they ever agree on a new CBA) but it’ll probably be around $60 million. Cap floor won’t be much lower then it is now. Probably around $45 million.

  21. letsbecivilyall - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:30 AM

    Isn’t there a salary limit? I may be wrong, but I think a player can only get %20 of the cap for the year they signed in any given year, including bonuses. That means the max he could get in any one year would be like 14 million.

    • mikeyhigs - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:37 AM

      I think you are right about the 20% rule, but apparently it is $26 million in 1 CALENDAR year, not NHL year. Basically they give him a large signing bonus now, and the rest on July 1st, 2013 or next season.

    • langforc - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:16 AM

      His cap hit will be just north of 7 mil but his actually salary will be 26 mil (allegedly). This is the advantage of front loaded deals, a team can pay a player a large salary one year but take a much smaller cap hit.

      • langforc - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:17 AM

        And by salary I am including bonuses in that number.

  22. ikillchicken - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:30 AM

    It doesn’t surprise me at all that Weber would consider going to Philly. What I find interesting however is that he’d do it via offer sheet and thus give Nashville the chance to match. To me, this indicates one of two things: Either Weber is willing to stay in Nashville long term (for the right money anyway) or Weber knows that this offer is something Nashville has no hope of matching. I hope it’s the prior for Nashville’s sake. Losing Weber for nothing but a few low first rounders will effectively kill their franchise.

  23. katolungile - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:32 AM

    Will he prevent all the pucks that go through Bryz’s legs and short side?

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM

      LOL…anybody who would thumb this comment down obviously didn’t watch enough Flyers hockey last year.

  24. jimw81 - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:38 AM

    I heard rumblings flyers really fronted that contracted and amount is alot higher than reported. Hartnell recuited weber and flyers had an eye on this guy for years. Polie and homer are buddies I won’t be surprised if flyers trade players to preds. There is history. Preds are better off taking 4 1st rd picks. Next year class is very deep all around.

    • ml3939 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM

      Not sure why you got 7 thumbs down. I guess people are anti intelligent posts.

    • uscthom78 - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:39 AM

      Signing your player to a offer sheet with a poison pill is obviously something a friend would do.

      • andyreidisfat - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:11 AM

        It could be something a “friend” would do if Polie knew his ownership was cheap and wouldn’t do the deal. A contract like this would help Polie save face with his fan base and could net him either players or the 4 picks and allow him to start his rebuild.

        My guess is Weber and Homer already know they won’t match.

  25. predsfan098 - Jul 19, 2012 at 6:59 AM

    Has anyone been to a game in Nashville?? What a rocking place. I notice a lot of fans don’t even show up for bigger market teams unless they are in contention. Nashville fans show up every game. It’s a great place to play, Webs would be stupid not to play here.

    • melonheadsdaddy - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:26 AM

      You’ve obviously never been to Philly…..

    • andyreidisfat - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:13 AM

      Yeah Nashville is really a bigger hockey town than Philly. Wasn’t Philly named best hockey town in America recently ????

  26. govtminion - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:03 AM

    Wow… just wow. Big brass ones on Holmgren for even attempting this- and probably worth it in the long run.

  27. bobhpine - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:12 AM

    I think weber should wear #75

    • drunkbro - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:23 AM

      bobpine i love how scared you are right now. youre little 87 will get crushed. the soup can army hung himself in his backyard already

    • ml3939 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:43 AM

      Coming from the fan of a franchise that has preferred parking at bankruptcy court.

      • handsofsweed - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM

        Nah. They lost that spot years ago.

      • ml3939 - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:50 AM

        They are only a Crosby concussion away… (and I say this with no ill intent and in no way wish Crosby any harm, even as a Flyers’ fan).

  28. capsfan19 - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:23 AM

    While i am not a fan of the broad st bullies i think the prospect of weber going there is pretty crazy.
    All my amigos on south street will build shrines in their front yard for the guy.

  29. broadstbully33 - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:40 AM

    I heard 26 million signing bonus and 14 years 120 million contract. This would turn philly into instant cup favorites and i dare say dynasty

  30. andyb02 - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:48 AM

    If this happens for the Flyers, I don’t think Homer will be done making moves. The defense will be really really deep if Weber signs in Philly so I could see them trading a guy like Mez to free up some cap room and maybe add a minor piece or mid round pick.

  31. scionofflame - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:51 AM

    Only reason the Predators don’t match is if the deal is massively front-loaded and they can’t afford it. Otherwise? Locking up your best D-man until he’s 40 is a no brainer.

  32. mattmc20 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM

    As a Wings fan this is just another in a long list of reasons why I think the Flyers are a garbage organization. As Len Holland said, “signing RFA’s is almost useless because the original team usually gets them back anyways”. All the Flyers did was ensure Weber stays in Nashville. He IS NOT going to Philly. Nashville has no PR choice but to re-sign but now they don’t have to compete. Had Philly be of any intelligence they would have tried what the wings, sharks and a few others were doing, trading for him. But like they say, you can’t beat stupid, and now “stupid” is Philly yet again and the rest of the NHL loses any shot at Weber.

    • sizzle299 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:22 AM

      Your team had/has a shot to get him, if the deal is right and he wants to play there. Obviously wings’ offer wasn’t good enough and he doesn’t want to play there. Do you want a tissue? Maybe a short cry will do you some good because you obviously need to work through some things. And then there’s the garbage comment…..what other reasons?

    • jake6881 - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM

      You are stupid….THEY KEEP HIM FROM THE EAST DIVISON COMPETION!!! At rge very least!!!! Its brilliant!

      • handsofsweed - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM

        You’re right. There’s NO WAY IN HELL that Ray Shero wasn’t working on this. Now, he will NEVER be a Pen. Nice move, I must admit.

    • jelliot1978 - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:23 AM

      you say Philly is “stupid” for offering him a huge contract because he might not sign and they go on to say that the rest of the NHL loses any shot at Weber. Not sure why preventing every division/conference rival from even having a shot at a premier defenseman is stupid, in fact it could be brilliant. Worse case is Nashville matches, ok not a big deal, Nash will have a great defender for a long time. If Nash choses not to match then the Flyers either lose 4 1sts or they trade some good players (a pair of Schenn’s+) to get some of their picks back and they get one of the best d-men in the league.

      Are the Flyers “stupid” because this means the Red Wings have no shot at him or that the likely outcome is that he stays in Nash and that means he will be directly against the Red Wings?

  33. mattmc20 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:09 AM

    Ken* holland in my post

  34. bleedgreen71 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:10 AM

    How about this conspiracy theory. I’ve read (I believe on this website) that Holmgren and Poile are good friends. If Holmgren came to the conclusion that there was no way the Flyers going to land Weber, maybe he did Poile a “favor” by offering this contract, knowing the Preds would match. That way, the Preds get their man long term, and it also keeps Weber from any Flyers rivals in the future.

  35. capesouth - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:21 AM

    Would love to see a Chara vs Weber matchup on a more regular basis.

  36. philly4lyfe - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:21 AM

    I can just see webs, G and bryz in their first group interview as teammates now…..

    “not 1 cup, not 2 cups, not 3 cups…..”

    • claysbar - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM

      Weber- I am glad to join a club that has a long and rich hockey history and look forward to competing for the Stanley Cup for many years to come.

      Giroux- We welcome Shea to the team and cannot wait to compete for the Stanley Cup for years to come.

      Bryz- No, the tree does not make a sound if no one is around…..

      • jelliot1978 - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM

        well done!, Bryz is definitely a wee bit off, though he certainly does provide some interesting sound bytes

  37. dannythebisforbeast - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:33 AM

    NHL is crazy with these lifetime contracts
    How many actual years are you getting the guy that you see today. 7 years??

    I dunno. Is he that good? Nashville fans fill me in. Spending the most $$ on FAs every year has not won the Flyers anything.

    • miketoasty - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM

      Teams that spend big in free agency don’t win cups. Look back a couple years to see that.

    • melonheadsdaddy - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:31 AM

      What year did philly spend the most $ on free agents? Please fill me in. And remember… This is hockey. Not football….

  38. hockeyd40 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    This is hard to not be excited…. LET’S GO FLYERS!!!

  39. hockeyd40 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:47 AM

    Crosby your Career will be over after you get hit by Weber during a possible SIX games that we play you! Good luck sissy.

    • langforc - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:01 AM

      Especially when he slams his head into the glass and only gets fined. And to answer your question I am a Wings fan and I am still bitter that he wasn’t suspended.

  40. bobhpine - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Win something…anything…besides one of those coveted division titles…laughable man, haaaaa

  41. oquintero99 - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Wondering how Pronger is doing. Will he be back? This could be Holmgrens backup plan if Pronger is not given the green light. If Pronger is back then WOW!

  42. jake6881 - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    The Flyers are very smart here. Yesterday morning they had a 5% chance of signing Weber and keeping him. Now he put his name on the dotted line and only Nashville can match. That take Pitt, NJ, NY, WAS, and every other team out of the picture. He will be a flyer or pred for the rest of his carreer. That is fine with me. He would be a monster on any team. I just prefer it not be any one in the flyers divison. So we kept him from the competition at the very least. With a real shot at signing him for his carreer. That is just a great investment no matter how you look at it. He would be Scott Stevens on crack in a NJ uniform! I couldn’t stand the thought of it! In 6 days hopefully I will have my Webber jersey on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • habsman - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:52 AM

      There is nothing stopping Poile from matching the offer sheet and then trading him for the best package. Four low first rounders for Webber isn’t fair compensation. Poile can do better than that by trading him.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:08 AM

        But he couldn’t trade him until next year. So technically, the Flyers kept Weber out of the division for at least another year. After that, yes, Poile could trade him anywhere unless there was a no-trade clause in there as well.

      • habsman - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:30 AM

        Why would Poile need to wait a year? Why not trade him immediately? Explain please.

      • somekat - Jul 20, 2012 at 10:08 AM

        CBA rules. If you match an offer to an RFA, you can’t trade that player until 1 calendar year after the offer sheet was submitted (So they couldn’t trade him until 7/18/13). By that point, they would of already paid him 25 mil of the 110 mil, and still have 13 years left…..why trade him then?

        If you paid 25% of a salary, but only get about 7.5% of the time played, that is bad business any way you look at it. If they can get together that money in the year, there is no reason whatsoever not to match, and even less reason to trade him after you paid the first monster year

  43. ravenscaps48 - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    This has to put them right on the edge of the Salary Cap…

  44. dannythebisforbeast - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    Prongers career is over. Penguins fans sleeping in today? Wha took so long

  45. ct14flyers - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    The Preds will probably match but if they don’t the Flyers will have to make two separate deals. One will be signing Weber and the other will most likely be trading either Brayden Schenn or Sean Couturier to Nashville as a another deal. I am not against trading Brayden Schenn but only for Weber. Couturier I still don’t want to give up even for Weber but if it gets the deal done I won’t complain. Get ready for a wild couple of days!!

  46. mclovinhockey - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    If the offer is not matched by the end of the day I would be 100% shocked

    • jernster21 - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:04 AM

      I wouldn’t match it till the last hour I had to get it done. Not because they have to figure out where they’re going to get the money to pay him, but just to make the Flyers wait a week only to be told “no soup for you”.

  47. capsfan19 - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    Jake i dont think caps were ever in the running for weber

  48. tyler200829 - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    And yet the flyers have no championships in 30 years and the pens will pound them this year as they should have in the playoffs

  49. lostpuppysyndrome - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    So can another team make an offer to up the ante or is this just between Philly and Nashville? Or if Nashville matches, can someone else make a bid? I couldn’t see Detroit letting this go without a fight.

  50. mattmc20 - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    I said Philly is stupid because THEY AREN’T GETTING HIM! All these fans in Philly think he is coming? REALLY?!?!?! Nashville is well below the cap, desperate for a PR win and will NOT let the best young defenseman just walk! After the Suter situation they can’t keep their fan base if they do! Carolina tried this with the Wings and Sergei Federov and it didn’t work….why? Because the Wings couldn’t afford to lose him. All this celebrating and trashing Pitts fans is why I am calling celebrating Philly fan stupid. Had they traded for his rights like the smart teams aka Wings, were trying to do, they may have actually got Weber.

    • phillyphever - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:38 PM

      Man, who pissed on your Wheaties this morning?

    • melonheadsdaddy - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:56 PM

      Hey sport, maybe do a little research before you post stupid comments. They tried to trade for his rights and gave Nashville not 1, not 2, but THREE different deadlines to get a deal done. Almost had one to, but Nashville kept dragging their feet, so Homer did what a smart GM does….sign him to a front loaded offer sheet…its a 50/.50 shot now considering 80 MILLION (remember the Preds franchise is only worth 193 mill) is due in the first 6 years…if the preds don’t match it has nothing to do with the owner or the GM….you can blame the FINANCIAL department who controls the money…

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