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Preds GM Poile issues statement on Weber offer sheet

Jul 19, 2012, 12:11 PM EDT

David Poile

Nashville Predators GM David Poile has released a statement regarding the 14-year, $110 million offer sheet defenseman Shea Weber signed with the Philadelphia Flyers.

Here’s the full text (from the Preds website):

“We are in receipt of the offer sheet signed between the Philadelphia Flyers and Shea Weber. Under the rules pertaining to an offer sheet, the Predators have one week to decide whether to match or accept the compensation. We have stated previously that, should a team enter into an offer sheet with Shea, our intention would be to match and retain Shea.

“Our ownership has provided us with the necessary resources to build a Stanley Cup-winning team. Due to the complexity of the offer sheet, we will take the appropriate time to review and evaluate it and all of its ramifications in order to make the best decision for the Predators in both the short and long-term.

“We do not anticipate any further comments on this situation until we make our decision within the next seven days.”

Translation: We’re aware of the offer sheet and we’ve gotta figure this out, so we’re gonna hunker down and not talk publicly for a while.


So…what if Nashville doesn’t match Philly’s offer sheet for Weber?

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On the chances of Shea Weber getting an offer sheet

  1. mattj2524 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Translation: “Stupid Flyers and their stupid offer sheet for stupid 14 years and stupid $100+ million…”

  2. mattj2524 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    It seems all of these stories only discuss 2 possibilities:

    1) Nash matches, spends half of it’s team’s worth on 1 player, and saves face with the fans, or
    2,) Nash doesn’t match, Weber goes to Philly, and Preds get 4 picks and lose a chuck of it’s fanbase.

    Why can’t they match, and then turn right around and trade him? He is literally the cream of the crop; anything short of a plethera of tallent in return of him would be unacceptable. And they’d get what they wanted for him too – if from no one else, than from Philly.

    • Mike Halford - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:33 PM

      Can’t trade him for at least one full year. As per CBA.

    • williplett - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:33 PM

      Under the current CBA you can’t trade a player for a year after you match an offer sheet.

    • jernster21 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:35 PM

      If they match they can’t trade him for a year and you aren’t going to trade someone who you have to make a substantial investment in from the beginning.

      • mattj2524 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:43 PM

        Whoooooooooa – easy fellas. I’m not up on my CBA ammendments and such.

        Thanks for clearing that up though.

        I guess the purpose for that rule is so you can’t match that offer then demand assets from the team who made the offer in a trade because now you know the level of interest they had to begin with. Makes sense. I guess if I wasn’t trying to work while reading all of these updates I would have been able to think that through. Stupid work, taking away from my Shea Weber news update time.

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:06 PM

        Jeff Carter ring a bell?

      • jernster21 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:31 PM

        That situation has no relation to this one at all.

      • jelliot1978 - Jul 19, 2012 at 5:41 PM

        To mattj,
        Technically the Preds cannot trade Weber to the Flyers, but there is previous history (Gratton) that had a team sign a RFA to an offer, the current team basically says we will match unless….. The unless would basically be a trade of all or some of the draft picks the Flyers would send to the Preds in exchange for players. This would make it seem like it was Weber for players xyz and picks but technically it is not (semantics, legal mumbo jumbo).

  3. sheckyrimshot - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:31 PM


  4. jacketsfan7 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    Of course Philly offers him

  5. jpelle82 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    this is a gift for nashville. philly just did their negotiating for them, no way they dont match. they still need to meet the cap floor, they have plenty of money to burn on a sure thing in weber.

    • jl9830 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:15 PM

      No they don’t. There’s a big difference between having cap space and having cash.

      This offer sheet calls for Weber to be paid $27M in the next calendar year (which is as long as the Preds would HAVE to keep Weber). Only 7 of that would go towards the cap. So could the Predators afford to spend like $80M on payroll this year (whatever the payroll is, plus the additional $20M in bonuses)? That doesn’t sound like something that’s feasible.

  6. lonespeed - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    It’s too much to invest in one player.

    Look at the largest NHL contracts to date, not including the one’s that have recently been signed that we cannot measure just yet.

    Anyone think Alex Ovechkin’s 2008 contract of 13-years for $124m (9.54m per) look good now? He was a defensive liability in the playoffs and had his ice time drastically reduced.

    IIya Kovalchuk’s 2010 contract of 15-years for $100m (6.67m per). He’s been a solid player, but he’s been inconsistant and he was banged up in the play-offs. All players get banged-up from time-to-time, but that just supports the argument you shouldn’t put so much emphesis on one player.

    Marion Hossa 2009 contract of 12-years for $62m (5.23m per). Another solid player, and I don’t fault Hossa for getting injured in the playoffs, but he’s likely never to be the player he was after that severe concussion.

    Roberto Luongo 2009 contract of 12-years for $64m (5.33 per). Vancouver can’t get him out of town fast enough.

    There are many examples and I’m not saying that some don’t pan out, but the risk taken on by signing a star player to a mega contract is just too much. Even if 25% work out great and another 25%-50% work out so-so, that other 25% can set your franchise back years.

    No one wants there team to be cheap, but spreading money out amongst many players reduces risk, reduces jealously between stars and allows you to sign multiple good players.

    • mattj2524 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:50 PM

      With Shea Weber, you need to take the 75% chance that this contract will work out somewhere between great and so-so. You make good points with the other contracts you mention, but the big difference here is, this is a blue-chip defenseman. If you’re ever going to shell out a contract like this, it has to be for a young, proven blueliner.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:55 PM

      these defenders like weber arent a dime a dozen like a russian winger is. you have to invest in this guy, they are comparable to a franchise quarterback in football, they just dont come along every day and you have to love the one you’re with.

    • brianforster - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM

      the players you listed are all apart of perennial contenders for the cup, your argument makes sense, but the results speak for themselves.

  7. sippindasyzurp - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Shea Weber is not the difference between winning and losing a Stanley Cup.. They have had him for many years, and Nashville will be OK after a few years… They already have a world class goalie so I am sure Barry Trotz will find some way to make it work and I am sure over the next 4 years they will have a total of 8 first round picks, I am sure 2 or 3 of those players at minimum will turn out to be pretty good.

  8. williplett - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Poile and the Preds are left with two options:

    1.) Sign their best player to a lifelong contract that they had absolutely NO part in negotiating


    2.) Let him walk away in return for four late first round picks and the toxic fallout that will likely result

    David Poile has a great reputation in this league, but it has totally fallen apart since last summer. His inaction let the Flyers tie his hands in regard to Weber not even two weeks after seeing Suter leave for no compensation. The Preds and their fans will be spinning away on this, but Poile seems like he’s been getting played on a regular basis this off season. How on EARTH is it a good thing for Nashville that they allowed Weber and another team to dictate the terms of this huge deal they are going to have to sign?


    • lostpuppysyndrome - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:03 PM

      Well, you could say Poile’s getting played, or he’s fallen asleep at the wheel for the past few months. I don’t think the Radulov thing was his fault, cuz it looked great at the time, but between the Gaustad deal, the Kostitsyn deal, and Weber walking out of town, he’s looking a bit inept. If the word is true that he took too long to make a deal with Philly, then Nashville is kind of boned for the near future. Trotz or not, it’ll take some serious Tippett-like magic to make this team work. The ownership might be able to provide the necessary resources, but getting the necessary competence is a bit more difficult.

      • lostpuppysyndrome - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:04 PM

        *Suter walking out of town. My bad.

    • yinzgotsix - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:06 PM

      you seem so intelligent when it comes to this hockey thing. I told you I was excited to learn from such a great mind and undoubtedly great human being. Keep the great posts coming “pal”. Do you ever get tired fighting the battle you’ll never win?

  9. mclovinhockey - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Brilliant move by Philly. Puts Philly in a good position to get one of the best D in the league without a 9 mill cap hit like he could get all because Nash may not have the capital to pay this guy 80 mill in 6 years…

    If Philly gets weber, they will have arguably the 2 best D ever to come out of the preds in weber and tinmonen

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM

      Figures you would think this is brilliant

      It’s a stupid move made by a stupid GM

      Waited a year and they could have got him signed without the threat to match.

      Now Philly will never get the chance because the Preds will match.

      Philly just did the Preds a favour and ensured that Weber will never play for Philly.

      • 28giroux28 - Jul 19, 2012 at 4:50 PM

        Waiting a year wouldn’t have guaranteed them a deal next year. Who’s to say he wouldn’t have signed a long term deal with Nashville? Also the Preds aren’t definitely matching. The Flyers have also made it so that if Weber does stay in Nashville, he’s there for his career. Now the Pens, Rangers, or other EC rivals can’t get him without sending a ton of prospects the other way. If Philly gets him they give up only cash and keep their young core. Brilliant move.

      • williplett - Jul 19, 2012 at 5:33 PM

        Especially after losing Suter for nothing, there was NO WAY Nashville was going to let Weber hit free agency. Taking the picks instead of matching an offer sheet, re-signing him or trading him were the only ways this was going to play out. Poile has made some seriously dubious moves lately, but letting Weber walk for nothing would have been insane.

        What are you thinking, man?

      • yinzgotsix - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:36 PM

        why are you not an nhl GM yet willisnatch? Do you realize your knowledge is superior to everyone elses? One more thing, could you use simpler vocabulary when you comment, us common folk have a hard time understanding.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM

        Vastly superior to people posting here for the most part.

        Funny thing is, all I do is ever agree with hockey people, what I hear and read from people within the sport.

        It’s not difficult to understand
        Everyone and their dog expects the Preds to match.
        After that it’s the Preds problem.

        I mean seriously everyone keeps saying the same thing.
        End of the day they fully expect the Preds to match and they will take their chances.

  10. hockeyfan28 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    Memo to David Poile that’s what you get for making Paul Holmgren mad.

  11. theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    David Poile to Holmgren

    “Thanks Man you just ensured Weber will retire a Pred”

    What a moron Paul Holmgren is, he just played himself for a fool.

    Congrats Preds, you got exactly what you wanted, Weber signed to a offer sheet that you will now match and force him to stay in Nashville.

    Bravo Holmgren you look like a lil boy among men who just got used

    • hockeyfan28 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM

      Worst case he forces Weber to stay in Nashville and not go to the Rangers or Penguins it’s a win/win for Philly

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:31 PM


        Having Shea Weber ready and willing to finish his career in Philly, and SCREWING IT UP.

        Yup that is FULL OF WIN

        Again, the Flyers could have done this is a way that guaranteed Weber 100%. Now allt hey have done is ensure he stays in Nashville.

        That’s not a Win/Win
        That’s having a one in a generation opportunity and BLOWING it.

      • biasedhomer - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:38 PM

        for some reason, you seem to think Weber is willing to only play with the Flyers. I don’t understand where you get this from. He’d be happy with pretty much any contender, Flyers, Pens, Rangers, Red Wings, etc.

    • biasedhomer - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:36 PM

      If anyone seems to not understand the offer sheet idea and looks “like a lil boy”, it is you, not an NHL GM.

      1)Weber would not sign an offer sheet unless he was ok with the idea of potentially having to stay with the Preds.

      2)Homer also made the deal in a way that would force the Preds to spend much of their revenue for 1 year on one player.

      3)The Preds were in trade discussions with a few teams, including the Rangers. The offer sheet eliminates all other teams from the discussion. Weber is going to be a Pred or a Flyer, not a Ranger or a Shark or any other team.

      4) If the Preds match, they can’t trade him for one year. During this span, he would have been paid 25% of his contract. So they have to make that long term commitment with paying Weber for quite a few years. It would be foolish of them to pay one fourth of his contract, only to let him go to some other team after a year.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:47 PM

        Your #1 is stupid, Am I talking about the choices Weber made? Nope, This is about the opportunity Homer just blew.

        Your #2 Im pretty sure there will be a year 2 ,and 3 and 4, actually Im pretty sure the world will still be ticking by then.
        Ohhh No!!!! Losing revenue they will lose if Weber is gone anyways. Oh wait, you’re not so dumb to think that they would lose a ton of Money if they lose Suter and Weber in the same season? My god, shut up and stop writing to me if you’re going to yammer about business in a 14 year old manner. I mean really are you sitting there typing this crap thinking that singing Weber means paying x’#’s will cost them, but not even considering how much they will lose by not signing him?

        #3 Ummmm The offer sheet eliminates the Flyers as well, because the Preds are going to match. Weber was willing to spend the rest of his life in a Flyers uni, all Homer had to do was go about it differently.

        #4 another CLUELESS yammering. So what if they can’t trade him for 1 season. You and your ignorant posting about business just make me laugh beyond belief.

        Again just shut up, you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to business.

      • biasedhomer - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:56 PM

        Haha, I know Im arguing with a child, so I will try my best to explain it in simpler terms, you seem to have trouble putting all the points together.

        How can the Preds afford to pay Weber 26M in one year? How can they worry about years 2 and 3 and 4, if they can’t figure out year 1? If the Preds could have offered this deal, don’t you think they would have done so already? I mean, they did refuse to give him 7M per year for 3 years last season, and decided to low ball him in arbitration.

        THe offer sheet does not eliminate the Flyers. The Preds and Flyers can make a deal out including players for Weber. No other team in these 7 days can do that.

        And lastly, you seem to fail to understand that this is a business. Are the Preds willing to pay Weber over the next 8 years, pretty much more than half of the franchise itself is worth? I mean, to you it might not seem much, but money does matter. You may learn this in a couple years when you have finances to manage.

        Enjoy! I hope you understood!

        By the way, I suggest lessening up on the immature insults, it gives away your age.

      • themohel - Jul 19, 2012 at 6:03 PM

        biased – you handled this imbecile (look it up Mr. theawesomefranchise) quite well.

  12. mclovinhockey - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:07 PM


    What isn’t smart about it.

    Wait a year? Nope, weber said he wants a LONGTERM contract. Waiting a year won’t work.

    Philly did not give anything on a silver platter. The preds is not a franchise which has the money to spend. If they want this contract the preds will be paying twice as much as they were trying to over the next 4 years. Short term for a team who is not able to reach the cap floor because they don’t have enough money, paying 14 mill for a guy with a 7.8 cap hit is not smart. For a team who is trying to stay under the ceiling it’s brilliant.

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:29 PM

      Hey stupid lil boy who knows next to nothing about hockey.

      Is that directed at me? The Red Wings fan?

      I know you’re a lil boy who can only understand so much. So I will go slow for you.

      The Flyers could have simply had Weber tell the Preds “I won’t sign an extension with anyone but the Flyers, trade me to Philly or I will just sign with them in the off season”

      Instead, the Flyers have allowed the Preds the chance to match, Which they will.

      Do you have the brain to understand this concept?
      Do you understand that the Preds are going to match?
      Do you understand that the Flyers could have had Weber if they were not in such a rush and considered their options.

      Yup Weber could be a Flyer, but now he won’t
      Why? Because they Flyers getting in the way of themselves.

      Stupid lil boy that you are who I have forgotten more about hockey that you have ever known

      • flyersgoalscoredby88 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:49 PM

        We all agree that it’s possible you’ve forgotten a lot about hockey…

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:52 PM

        Ohhh poor Flyer fans, when the Preds match, just know that yas had a shot at an amazing D man. And your GM completely blew it.

        And the best yas will come up with will be “at least he’s not in NY”
        Yup, he could have been a Flyer for the rest of his life but Homer completely botched it. But hey, at least he isn’t a Ranger.

      • sens101 - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:55 PM

        lol just because you are a redwings fan doesnt mean you know anything about hockey, especially the economics behind the game.
        Have you ever heard of the term cash flow? The reason why the Preds are going to have a difficult time matching is finding the money in the first 6 years of the contract to pay the signing bonuses. If they use all of their cash to pay weber they are in danger of not being able to meet their obligations with respect to other expenses such as arena lease (if building not owned), travel costs, utilities, not to mention paying salaries etc etc. They dont have a huge infusion of cash like the big market teams such as philly, detroit, nyr, tml and mtl.
        They are probably going to take the week to figure out how they can get the financing required to pay Weber.
        I dont think the sens/jets can afford that deal, and if they cant i doubt the preds could.
        If they cant secure the financing, they will have to let him walk or the franchise could ultimately fold becuse of cash flow issues.
        BTW this is also a major part of the problem in NJ as well.

        And just because your jealous that the Detroit didnt do this and didnt land Suter doesnt mean you have to spaz like a little girl who didnt get her way. Lidstroms gone, get over it already.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM

        lol guess you missed the part where he called me a Pens fan.

        Opps guess you missed the part where If the Preds don’t match the contract and lose both Suter and Weber, they will have a massive drop in cash flow as well.

        Ohhh what? never considered that the Preds might lose the entire fanbase, lose sponsorships, seaon ticket sales and everything that goes along with it if they lose both of these players?

        Again, Im done educating the stupid for free.

        LOL @ you trying to talk about financing and completely ignoring the cost of not signing him. Over the LONG TERM.

        Another clueless buffoon who is a moron and can only glimpse at the issues surrounding the Preds.

        Tell ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL you idiots what.

        When the Preds Match, you never post here ever again.

        And if they don’t match I won’t

        It would be nice to rid this place of all the homers and stupid kids who think they know something about business and hockey.

        So put up, or shut up

      • williplett - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:24 PM

        Do you understand that Philly submitting an offer sheet likely indicates that Nashville had either rejected the Flyer’s trade offers or told them they were uninterested in trading Weber? Offer sheets are widely despised by GM’s and franchises because they are a last ditch, irritating way to push a team’s hand on a player they have yet to come to terms with. If Nashville was actually talking in any realistic fashion about trading Weber to Philly, why would they blow it by submitting an offer sheet to him?

        Think about it.

        Kinda seems like Philly made an all in move in an attempt to force Nashville’s hand and possibly pry Weber away from them.

      • jelliot1978 - Jul 19, 2012 at 5:56 PM

        Holmgren MIGHT have been able to convince Weber of that, but there is a strong probability that Weber would not have done as you are suggesting. The Flyers ‘could’ have signed Weber next year but it is more likely that Weber would have been traded and signed or just plain old signed long term by Nashville. The chances of Weber going past September without a long term contract is virtually none. See, there is this negotiating that is going on between the NHL and NHLPA and it is possible that deals like this may not be possible next year. Weber was not taking that chance.

        Signing Weber to an offer sheet now makes it so no other team can deal for Weber. in 2012-13 Shea Weber will either be a Nashville Predator or a Philadelphia Flyer. It is very likely that Nash will match, but it is still about the same possibility that Nash signed him long term to begin with.

        So really, how was this a screw up on Holmgren’s part? Is it because he now makes it so there is no chance that your Soup Can Army can get him? Makes trading Staal a little harder to deal with because you didn’t sign either of the two marquee names and now can’t get a top d-man?

      • yinzgotsix - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:55 PM

        I thought about it and I agree with you willow. When you type smaller words I can understand fully. THANK YOU!!!!

      • flyerfaninokinawa - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:59 PM

        Pardon the interuption: but “theawesomersfranchise” could you please stop typing in T-BONICS I don’t have the translator add-on installed on my browsing. Cheers!

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:13 PM

        Rather me speak in Philly-esse?
        Yo’ dat Holmgren had one shot at gettins hims some of the Weber dude yo. I’s sure would love to watch him plays in P-town yo. But the dude didn’t make a offer dat dem suckas in Nashville couldn’t match yo. Why di’int Homes put in a poison pill type of thingy so the Preds wuld be like we cantz B matching dat offer yo?

        That help?

  13. freneticgarfieldfan - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    I don’t think Weber had any intention to stay in town (see: abitration last year, slow negotiation this year). And he must be quite greedy, see: bonus/salary structure.
    If I were the Preds, I’d let him walk, I wouldn’t want to pay such a character 80 million in 6 years. Fun scenario: one down-year in Philly with their racious media, then it could get really interesting with that albatross of a contract.

  14. theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Hey Philly fans
    When the Preds match how mad are you going to be knowing that if Homer went about this differently you would have Shea Weber? But instead drove Weber back to Nashville because your GM is a moron?

    • biasedhomer - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:42 PM

      Obviously Homer ran over your dog or did some obscene things with people you know.

      Again, the Flyers were not the only team that Weber was willing to play for. This isn’t the same as Parise and Suter, who both wanted to be on the same team, and both liked Minny over every other team.

    • isithockeyseasonyet - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:43 PM

      do you have anything to do besides attempt to ostracize flyer fans with your self described superior hockey knowledge? Your knowledge of the situation is no better than anyone else’s who is calling this a good move by paul holmgren, the only difference is you hate the flyers and that’s dictating your judgement of the situation

      • biasedhomer - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:47 PM

        What else do you expect internet. There is not separation of maturity. Some times, children end up in discussions with adults, when there is a clear intellectual barrier.

  15. theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    You Education is done until the Preds match, where I will be back to remind yas of how badly franchise changing opportunity was screwed up by Homer.

    So LOL when the Preds match which they 100% will do and Homer looks like the stupid GM that he is without any doubt.

    • biasedhomer - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:00 PM

      When I read your posts, all I see is “stupid this, stupid that, moron, idiot, lil boy.” Reminds me of how my nephew when he gets upset.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:04 PM

        Again know-nothing poster

        Ill never post here again if the Preds don’tmatch, how about you never post here is they do?

        How about all you know-nothings never post here when the Preds do? Or at least promise to shut you know-nothing mouths about the business of hockey for the rest of your lives?

    • dclogicatlast - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM

      Al hale you noledge!

      • barkar942 - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:28 PM

        Is that a promise, theawesomefranchise? Oh, that’s right. You will only stop posting with this one screen name.
        Personally, I think Nashville walks.
        Philly set this deal up that it will bankrupt Nashville to try to retain him.
        Weber to Philly, done deal.

  16. barkar942 - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    Philly just needs another goalie without removing Bryz. So they go for the big guy to put in front of him.
    Truthfully, my opinion on this:
    There are ten teams in the NHL that can buy and sell all of the other 20 combined.
    The other 20 teams are really just minor league development teams for the rich top ten.
    If Ed Snider is rich enough to buy NBC, he is rich enough to throw ridiculous amounts of money at these top players from elsewhere (see Pronger and Bryz…well, at least Pronger is a top player).
    It is getting to the point that if you are one of the other 20 owners, they are all gonna bail and you will be back to 6 teams in the NHL.

  17. mclovinhockey - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Wait the franchise isn’t the same moron as crosberries???

    Okay well then I made a mistake…. Sorry, thought you were that guy


    Weber said he wanted a long term deal.. If it was with the preds or another team, that’s up to them. He didn’t want to sign a 1 year deal.

    Any trade would have required more than 4 20+ overall picks.

    Not sure what you don’t understand… Philly gets the best D in the league or Nash spends 24 million (which they don’t have) on a 7.8 mill cap hit…

    If they had that 24 mill to use they would have put it on their cap, they would have signed weber and suter to 11-12 mill a year deals last season.


  18. andyreidisfat - Jul 19, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    That guy is just trolling (not really using his smart hat either when he is doing it “you education”?) Nobody can say this isn’t a smart move by the Flyers. Homer created a We get him or he goes back tot he west situation. His cap number would be just fine, and like other said Snyder has the money to pay the up front bonuses and he wants a title before he dies so he’s going to do it no problem.

    If the Flyers get weber and i am 75% sure they will and most likely only for the draft picks with maybe a defense men thrown in for one of the picks then Homer has had one of the best two year runs as GM ever ( i still have some faith in Bryz)

  19. suckitny - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:07 PM

    I look forward to never seeing another post by the awesome franchise. What a child…

  20. flyerfaninokinawa - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    Homer tried to get a trade done but Nash was asking for Schenn and Couturier plus more?? Everyone knows that these kids are CURRENTLY untouchable! Nash have been half stepping with Weber for a while, it sucks that the offer sheet had to be done but it was definitely a last resort move. I am not going to pretend i know the finacial situation in Nash, but from what I have been reading they will be hard pressed to match. Again not saying they won’t especially after making a bold statement saying they will match ANY offer, but I don’t think they will and Homer is calling his bluff!! Fingers crossed (Weber in Orange and Black)!!!!! Side Note: (Can someone please buy Bryz a space Chimp so he can concentrate on stopping pucks!!!! 😉

    • jelliot1978 - Jul 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM

      For Weber the only player that is untouchable to Giroux. Schenn and Coots in the same deal though would probably be the deal breaker. Take either one out and add other player(s) then it makes it more likely. I like both of them but simply put, Weber is a beast and is likely a Norris candidate for the next 4 years at least.

  21. fillyphan - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:43 PM


    Before you go off on me for my inadequate knowledge of hockey please know that I’m not a GM with 40 years hockey experience that you have. I also wasn’t a part of the negotiations with Weber so I don’t know the subtleties of the deal as you do. I’m just a hockey layman posting a comment ok.

    Yes, Nashville could choose to retain Weber’s rights and he could stay a Pred, but how you could say the Holmgren messed this deal up by the approach he took is incredible. And I will say that I’m happy that the Pens and NYR didn’t acquire Weber as that would them that harder to play. Matter of fact you should be happy that he potentially is leaving the western conference to go east, that is, unless you are upset that the RedWings didn’t get him. I actually think that you hate the Flyers and anything short of complete destruction of the Team is worth trolling all over the Internet about. And god forbid someone doesn’t agree with you. Those people could only be 3 years old and have no idea how hockey is played.

    Truth, be known, I could care less if we got Weber as long as he goes back to Nashille, then Zetterburg has to deal with him. Holmgren executed well and it seems that only a handful of people, mostly those that hate the Flyers have an issue with it after Minne signed 2 huge contracts and NJ signed the Kovy contract. This isn’t new and I’m fairly certain the new CBA will end all of the craziness so we can sign our young guys in the following years.

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