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Report: Wings make “a hell of an offer” for Nash

Jul 18, 2012, 10:42 AM EDT

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If only it weren’t the Detroit Red Wings. Any other team and the Rick Nash trade saga could be over by now.

A source tells mlive.com that the Wings made “a hell of an offer” for the Blue Jackets’ captain, and got crickets in response.

No counteroffer, no back and forth negotiation, nothing.

It is clear Columbus has no intention of trading the face of its franchise to the team it considers to be its top rival, a Detroit club that has dominated the Blue Jackets since they entered the NHL in 2000-01.

The last thing Columbus general manager Scott Howson wants to see is Nash being paired with Pavel Datsyuk and his Blue Jackets having to deal with that scenario six times a season.

It wasn’t reported what exactly the “hell of an offer” was, so we don’t even know if Howson would’ve accepted. If the source is within the Wings’ organization, they aren’t going to say it was a so-so offer, are they?

Anyway, Detroit is one of the few teams on Nash’s approved list. The others are reportedly Philadelphia, New York (Rangers), Pittsburgh, Boston and San Jose.

Be nice if one of them made a hell of an offer soon.

  1. hockeyflow33 - Jul 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    It was rumored that no players would come back to Columbus but the Wings would take Howson on as an assistant GM thereby giving a sliver of hope to the Blue Jackets future

    • polegojim - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

      1) It’s a complete stretch to say that the Blue Jackets are the Red Wings #1 competitor. Columbus must first be ‘competitive’ for that to be true.
      2) Actually, it appears that the ‘last thing’ Howson seems to want…. is to actually do something to make the Jackets better

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 18, 2012 at 3:06 PM

        There is a difference between the Red Wings being their #1 competitor and they being the Red Wings #1 competitor

      • jmacphee9 - Jul 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM

        the point is, rivalries are usually competitive. a blow for a blow, not relentless beating by one side. more like a big brother little brother situation.

  2. hockinj25 - Jul 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    I’m glad they declined. Price is too high for the Wings.

  3. redwingsfan999 - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    Can’t say I’m surprised, I wouldn’t expect the jackets 2 give the wings Nash

  4. buffbry - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Who cares if it’s a division rival, if the wings made that significant of an offer CBJ would be dumb not to accept. We play them what 6 times a year, so the other 76 games they won’t see him. The wings are going to play how they play regardless of CBJ. If CBJ is intent on rebuilding and the wings gave that big of an offer and don’t accept, then we can all see why this team is a constant failure. Kessel essentially got traded to a division rival(i understand it was an offer sheet, but same difference) and has it really affected Boston or has it helped them? CBJ will never ever be a good team and should fire everyone at this point.

    • claysbar - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:19 AM

      On September 18, 2009, the Boston Bruins traded Phil Kessel to the Toronto Maple Leafs, in exchange for a 2010 first-round pick, a 2010 second-round pick, and a 2011 first-round pick. Kessel was never signed to an offer sheet.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_players_who_have_signed_offer_sheets

      • buffbry - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM

        who cares idiot, same thing, offer sheet or traded. Realistically if he signed the offer sheet he was going to get the same picks. that’s the least important part of what I was writing about, get a clue.

      • claysbar - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM

        Wasn’t trying to be a dick man.

      • claysbar - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:42 AM

        But, since you were, if Toronto had signed Kessel to an offer sheet, based on his salary that year, had Boston not matched it, Toronto would have only had to give Boston a first and a second. So “realistically”, Toronto overpaid by a first rounder, that player being Dougie Hamilton.

      • buffbry - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:49 AM

        ok sir, without being a dick this time, the whole point was a star went to a division rival and it didn’t affect the Bruins.

      • claysbar - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:55 AM

        Agreed, another good example of that was Selanne to San Jose.

      • buffbry - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM

        I agree with the Selanne example, and to further this point if Chelios can go from a much bigger rival in Chicago to Detroit, why can’t CBJ trade with Det?

  5. tobie1003 - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Not in the know. Is there a reason why he wouldn’t want to come play for the CAPS?

    • brianforster - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM

      im pretty sure he hates the caps, there was some chirping going on back and forth through the media like 2 seasons ago.

  6. east96st - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Jason – Damn you to hockey hell for posting this and making me defend Howson. As big of an assclown as Howson is, as incompetent as the CBJ front office is, and as painfully clueless as the CBJ ownership is, this deal could never happen. Nash to Detroit would have been the final straw for even the most diehard CBJ fans. Nationwide Arena would have been empty. Not semi-empty, like most Jackets game, I mean NO ONE in the seats. The only thing worse than watching the Jackets, is listening to the inbred Wings fans who go on and on that CBJ has never won the Cup while completely ignoring the fact that the Wings have been playing for 86 years vs CBJ’s 11 and the fact that Detroit went 41 years without winning a Cup.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM

      It annoys me that you have had a team for 11 years and think you can have diehard fans

    • m1lla7 - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:22 PM

      [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/1zc3b7d.gif[/IMG]

  7. jacketsfan7 - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    I’m not sure if I like that , c’mon ur only gonna play em 6 times per year maybe Johan fransen was in the deal or jimmy Howard or a really good player , you have to make deals that’ll make your team better , and not worry about the other team and maybe Nash doesn’t get along or be as great of a player , I just don’t like that move…..and considering the fact the the CBA and Nash’s NTC is getting in the way this might’ve been their best deal

    • langforc - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM

      I can see Johan being part of the deal but no way Jimmy was included (then again bc the details aren’t being released who knows). The Jackets have Bobs and Mason now, plus the Wings are going to need Jimmy to play huge this year with the holes on the blue line.

  8. anarchist9027 - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    So when are the Blue Jackets going to Quebec?

    • cincycbjfan - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:02 PM

      Never… the Coyotes will already be there… besides, as a CBJ fan, I would never wish this level of ineptitude (management… or more precisely “lack of”) on anyone… even the Wings… it’s a joke!

  9. brianforster - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    this is terrible logic on the blue jackets part. if detroit is going to give you more than any other team, you pull the trigger. losing nash is a forgone conclusion, who cares where he goes? if you think one superstar is the only thing separating the detroit and columbus franchises, you have more pieces missing than the blue jackets roster.

    • homelanddefense - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:07 PM

      I agree. If you are confident you are making a good deal then you should be ok with getting the better of the trade partner, no matter who they are.

      Seems to me they are worried they might get burned by a division “rival”

  10. jacketsfan7 - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    I totally agree with you @buffbry , thanks , I’m not the only one that thinks that was a dumb move

    • buffbry - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

      we are rivals but agree in this matter, I don’t see why Howson is still running this team

      • cincycbjfan - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM

        Because the owner’s stockbroker… I mean Team President… thinks he’s the right man for the job.

        Being from Cincy, I honestly think that Mike Brown (Bengals owner, for those non-NFL fans) would do a better job with the CBJ, and we all know how much of a moron he is…

      • howiehandles - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

        @ cincycbjfan…did you ever imagine that you’d utter those words ” I honestly think that Mike Brown (Bengals owner, for those non-NFL fans) would do a better job”? lol

        Seriously though, he’s done a nice job the last few years in the draft. What is up with that?

      • cincycbjfan - Jul 18, 2012 at 3:46 PM

        @howiehandles – Agreed… almost hurt myself saying that!

        As for “Mikey”, can only guess that he holds a regular séance to communicate with his father! The only explanation I can come up with, as there haven’t been any fundamental changes to the family tree… I mean front office.

  11. stakex - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    The key here is that we know Howson has a sky high price for Nash. So its quite possible Detroits offer, while “a hell of an offer” from their perspective, wasn’t even close to good enough for Howson.

    If it really is just the fact Columbus doesn’t want to face Nash six times a year, they should get over it and make the deal. It would be understandable if Columbus was actually a contender, but there not and likely won’t be anytime soon. If some team was actually dumb enough to meet Howsons joke demands, they should take it and run with it… no matter who the team is.

  12. capesouth - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    I understand Howson not wanting to trade to Detroit but if the offer is what he wants as far as return, the simple fact that it is Detroit shouldnt be a deal breaker at this point. He needs to trade Nash. He is already strapped enough as it is having only 6 teams to potentially deal with. Worry about building your team the right way. If there is a good deal to be had, no matter who it’s from, and you can build successfully off that, do it. Worry about your own team, not others. If your team is being built the right way, and this trade is a big part of that, then the team will eventually be successful, no matter what other teams are doing or what division they are in, etc.

  13. wingsfan40 - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    CBJ IS STUPID i heard detroit offered 3 picks (1st round) valteri filpula and someone
    else i think jan mursack ALL FOR NASH LIKE WHAT ELSE DO THEY WANT

  14. tfaltin - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    It’s hard to blame Howson on this one, because we really don’t know anything. One “hell of an offer” is just opinion. No names have been released. It could have been heavy on prospects and picks, or it could have been Filpulla, Mursack, Franzen and a first (would be a mid 20s first, so not an immediate impact skater), we don’t know. He has to hit a homerun with this trade with NHL ready forwards. CBJ has quietly built a decent defensive corps (at least when compared with their forwards) so it’s tough to jump on Howson without knowing more.

  15. garrison1981 - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    @east96st- we’ve had a team since the original 6 cuz were a die hard hockey area and know the game unlike u asshats down there! Y r we inbred, “becuz we kick ur ass at every sport! Ur lil fuc-eye run is over loser! The wings sellout every game compared to ur pro games look like our Beer League games!!

    • howiehandles - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM

      teams that win tend to draw fans. doesn’t mean they know they game, just that they acquired a ticket.

    • tfaltin - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:33 PM

      It’s hard to come off as a bigger loser than a guy who accuses Detroit of being inbred out of pure jealousy, but you did it. Stay in school kids.

      • east96st - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM

        Clearly, most of you have never heard of “tongue-in-cheek” and don’t realize that Jacket fans and Wings fans verbally abuse each other all the time at Nationwide but it still stays, for most part, fairly good natured. But I do want to thank garrison1981 for his witty insight and poetic prose. I see the Detroit area schools are still holding up their usual high standards. I enjoy the free spirited Wing fan that doesn’t allow a little thing like it being 1pm in the afternoon get in the way of him getting absolutely s**t faced drunk.

  16. jburrell4 - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Wait a minute….. I’m inbred??

  17. howiehandles - Jul 18, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    If he has no interest in trading Nash, then he needs to close shop on him. If Nash is still available, he needs to deal with the idea that the no doubt best offer might come from a ‘rival’. Although, I don’t know if Columbus could consider anyone a rival in their division, as they’ve been the doormat most of the time. I get the whole geography thing, but you’re trying to better your team. Then again, who knows how good this offer really was. The source could just be blowing some serious smoke.

  18. garrison1981 - Jul 18, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    I’m drunk because why? Defiantly not. I’m saying idiots that have never stepped foot in Michigan think they know everything because of what they hear about Detroit! Hate all you want, Detroit will always be a powerhouse and you’ll most likely be out the league in five-ten years!

    • handsofsweed - Jul 18, 2012 at 5:09 PM

      So, if CBJ are still around in 11 years, does that make them “defiant” also? It’s not so much your alcohol issues that gets you cracked on as it is the semi-literate nature of your posts.

  19. mttzakr87 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    If the Red Wings really did make a hell of an offer for Rick Nash, in a package which may have included Helm, Nyquist and Franzen, or Filppula….which is definetly way too much, why cant we talk to the Ducks about Bobby Ryan and Toni Lydman for a slightly cheaper price???

    Lydman is a lockdown D-man with 1 year left who could be moved and the big peice, Bobby Ryan is a 25 yr old power forward? He’s younger and cheaper than Rick Nash

  20. letsgosjsharks - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    Sharks gonna get him FTW!

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