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No counter-offer yet from NHLPA

Jul 18, 2012, 5:17 PM EDT

Donald Fehr AP

The NHLPA didn’t fire back at the NHL today in New York when the two sides sat down for another round of CBA negotiations.

According to Sportsnet’s Michael Grange, there was no counter-proposal from the union in response to the NHL’s initial offer that was presented Friday. (Today’s meeting was spent reviewing the league’s proposal.)

The two sides plan to talk again Thursday and Friday.

NHLPA head Donald Fehr says the union could counter the NHL’s proposal or simply make its own initial offer unrelated to what the league proposed last week.

  1. atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 18, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    I think it’s best that they give their own initial offer, by countering off of the League’s proposal you give it legitimacy and make that the starting point. I remember last time the union decided to go off the owners proposal for their own and they offered the rollback, the league immediately accepted that part of their offer and rejected the rest continuing to use their own proposal (now with the rollback included) as the basis for where negotiations would begin from. I’m pretty sure Donald Fehr is too smart for that this time.

    I really believe the NHL’s economics are broken and both sides need to work to fix it (enhanced revenue sharing, lowering the cap and either lowering or getting rid of the floor) but I think it’s hard to fault the players for the current situation, last time the owners crushed them and forced their will on tedxthem, it just turned out that by doing that they created a system that greatly benefitted the players.

    • chiadam - Jul 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM

      Agreed. Don’t even acknowledge that absurd, season-ending POS offer. Or, acknowledge it in kind. Propose a 65% share of the revenue (you know, the revenue generated by players), two years on entry contracts and five years until FA. Oh, and propose to do away with the cap that the league murdered a season to get, the cap that was supposed to solve all the league’s issues.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 18, 2012 at 6:41 PM

        Actually I’ve heard the owners offer has 2 year entry level contracts but then they include 3 straight years of club options. Which isn’t great but not horrible until you throw in the 10 years until free agency, I’m convinced the owners are trying to muddy the waters with all of these things in order to “give them all up” to get what they really want, players getting revenue in the 48-50% zone rather than 57%.

      • therealjr - Jul 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM

        I’m shocked you fellas don’t own a team, seeing how you are such shrewd business types.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM

        Well the real junior, let’s take a look at facts, 17 of 30 teams lose money. 11 teams are currently for sale including one team the NHL owns because no one wants to actually take money out of their pocket to buy it. It’s pretty easy to see shrewd businessmen don’t buy NHL teams!

      • handsofsweed - Jul 18, 2012 at 10:42 PM

        Says the d-bag with the screen name that hints at the idolization of a fictitious character with business saavy on a horribly bad 1980’s evening soap opera drama.

  2. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 18, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    Where’s my burrito? Where’s my burrito?

    Hopefully Gary doesn’t call in the 1930’s strike-breakers.

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