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Former Avs enforcer Parker sticks up for Bertuzzi…wait, what?

Jul 18, 2012, 1:32 PM EDT

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So the big thing on the internets today is Scott Parker’s interview with Mile High Hockey, in which the former enforcer with the Avs and Sharks says, among many other things, that Todd Bertuzzi got “dealt some bad cards” with regards to the infamous Steve Moore incident in 2004.

SCOTT PARKER: Yeah, yeah. [Bertuzzi’s] a good man. He, he is. I mean, he did get dealt some bad cards, and the thing is, [Steve Moore] always thought he was better than everybody else. He went to Harvard, you know what, b*** me. College grad. I never went to college, but I can kick your ass. I’ll bring you right down to my IQ level if you want. I’ll hit you about four times in the skull, that’ll bring you right down. So, you know, Todd just, it was one of those games. Markus Naslund, the captain of the Canucks, gets taken out. It was a little sketchy what happened, but, hey. And then Moore, he fought, I think Cooke came after him and then he fought, which wasn’t really a fight. Todd wasn’t really thrilled with it, they were losing, I think it was 8 to 1 in their home barn.

(Actually, it was 8-2, but that’s not important.)

It’s not the first time we’ve heard Bertuzzi’s actions justified, but we can’t remember a former teammate of Moore’s do it. (Parker wasn’t with the Avs when the incident occurred.)

  1. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 18, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    “It was a little sketchy what happened, but, hey.”

    What an absolute clown this guy is. Moore had his neck broken and his career ruined, but, hey, that’s what you get for going to Harvard. I don’t think a mere four punches could bring anyone down to this jerk’s IQ level.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM

      Misread that. I though he was talking about the Bertuzzi incident, not the Naslund one. Still, excusing Bertuzzi because it was just “one of those games” is equally ridiculous. A guy’s life was ruined but that’s ok because it was, you know, just one of those games.

  2. govtminion - Jul 18, 2012 at 1:44 PM

    Used to be a big Scott Parker fan when he was with the Avs (not the least of which being that he and I look a lot alike)… and so I’m stunned to read something this utterly boneheaded from him. A guy went to Harvard and has a bit of an attitude, so he deserves something like this to happen? Really?

    Shameful. Who the hell is interviewing Parker these days anyway?

    • t16rich - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:33 PM

      I wonder if he feels this way about Ivy League educated people in general? If that is the case I would love to see him have a conversation with George Parros, and see if he can bring his IQ level down.

  3. toewsingkaner - Jul 18, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    Guess Parker never recovered from Probert bashing his head in several years ago. Look it up on youtube probie fans, its a classic.

  4. mclovinhockey - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Scumbag….. I guess if he got into a car accident with a drunk driver and it killed all his family and paralyzed him for life, he would say “it’s just one of those days”, then not blame the asshole for driving drunk, even if he (the drunk guy) walks out without a scratch.

    TB should not be in the league right now, I hope that scumbag never wins a cup or I will lose all faith in this religion known as hockey.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:07 PM

      I really do believe Bertuzzi is sorry about this incident and sincerely regrets it. Before it he always came across as one of hockey’s good guys, and has even done so to some degree afterwards. But this incident gives that reputation a serious black eye and I too hope he never gets his name on the Cup. It just wouldn’t seem right.

      • buffbry - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:16 PM

        Bertuzzi actually got his name on the cup with anh when they won the cup.. just saying

      • buffbry - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM

        just kidding, sorry

  5. jpat2424 - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    I remember that one. It was a good one. Didn’t Parker leave game with a concussion. Guess it never went away.

  6. hockeyflow33 - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    I’d be interested to see in what the actual question asked what. All of the above comments have put their own words into what Parker said.

    Nowhere does it say Moore deserved it, only that he is a dbag.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:12 PM

      It’s not explicit, but the whole quote is essentially justifying what Bertuzzi did in part because Moore, in Parker’s opinion, deserved a beating.

      • hockeyflow33 - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:19 PM

        The interviewer throws a jab at Berts beforehand and it seems like he’s trying to show that despite that one action, Berts is still a good guy.

        He throws in this gem though:

        MHH: Life’s not fair, that’s for sure.

        SCOTT PARKER: No, and it’s amazing, you can bang all the hot chicks in the world, but you f*** one goat, huh, and you’re a goat f***er [LAUGHTER]. So, it’s that whole thing where you can do so much good, but you do one bad thing and, and you’re marked.

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 18, 2012 at 5:14 PM

        He could have made that point without saying Moore was a punk that needed to be beat down a few IQ points.

      • hockeyflow33 - Jul 18, 2012 at 7:10 PM

        the two have nothing to do with each other

  7. sjsharks66 - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    How embarrassing! What a joke. This guy is garbage.

  8. credible316 - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    Bertuzzi should have never been allowed to play again.

    • bjbeliever - Jul 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM

      Why? Because his coach sent him off the bench? When you’re at work you do your job, and being the enforcer was his job….sounds insensitive but it would have been pretty hard to fall on Moore’s back if he hadn’t tucked tail and run away….no one ever gives Moore any blame for trying to end Naslunds career by running him….do it if you want but understand you will need to answer the bell….

      • sportsfreak13 - Jul 18, 2012 at 4:52 PM

        His coach might of sent him over the bench to give him a big hit or maybe fight him but i doubt he said “hey go up behind him deck him then pile drive his face in the ice” you get me the audio of the coach saying that and ill let bertuzzi off the hook. Your defending a criminal (bertuzzi) plain and simple. Actions (bertuzzi) always have been and always will be louder then words (coach).

      • credible316 - Jul 18, 2012 at 5:01 PM

        I doubt his coach sent him off the bench to cheap shot him from behind.
        It would also would be pretty hard to fall on Moore’s back if he hadn’t gave him a cheap shop from behind like the p**** he is and if I do remember correctly, Naslund’s career didn’t end.

      • jdubs21 - Jul 18, 2012 at 6:58 PM

        Why in the whole Moore / Bertuzzi mess, does no one ever remember that Steve Moore kept egging on Bertuzzi the entire game and slashing at the back of his legs. Every clip I’ve ever seen only begins when Moore is skating away from Bertuzzi and Bertuzzi loses it and goes after him. If the clip would be shown from the puck drop in the Canucks zone, it would show Moore trying to get Bertuzzi to drop the gloves, and then see Bertuzzi skate down the ice with Moore hacking at the back of his legs, and then back into the Canucks zone were it looks like Bertuzzi finally had enough of it and went to engage Moore and then Moore turned and skated up the ice. This is were the clip picks up and we’ve all seen it.

  9. t16rich - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    That’s a joke and so were you Scott Parker. I say this as a Canucks fan…. My team acted as cowards that night. Steve Moore answered the bell right off the bat, at the beginning of the game by fighting and beating Matt Cooke. It was Bertuzzi who refused to accept the fact Moore answered the bell that night, and proceeded to break his neck. In my opinion, the second Moore fought Cooke in that game (regardless of Cooke’s toughness) should have been enough for the Canucks to bury it.

    • sporkov - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM

      I never thought I would ever agree with a Nucks fan, but t16rich, thanks for speaking the truth.

  10. martysbetter - Jul 18, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    I don’t get how people are surprised by comments like this by enforcers – these guys are glorified mongoloids on skates, they hit people for a living and, for the most part, are borderline retarded.

    HEY UR SMARTER THAN ME BUT I COULD BEAT YOU UP! LOL HAVING SEX WITH FAT CHICKS LOL

    • hockeyflow33 - Jul 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM

      these are guys who up until or through juniors/minors were the best players on their teams. no one makes it into the NHL who isn’t an amazing hockey player.

      Ridiculous comment

      • martysbetter - Jul 18, 2012 at 6:22 PM

        Thats like saying you were the best player on your little league team, who gives a turkey?

      • hockeyflow33 - Jul 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM

        you called them mongoloids on skates. being one of the top players at the age of 20 or older in the best leagues of the world is far different than a 7 year old’s local league

      • spiciercheez - Jul 18, 2012 at 7:25 PM

        Do you honestly think that enforcers used to be the best players on their junior teams? Dude…

  11. bcjim - Jul 18, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Hilarious

  12. dayno66 - Jul 18, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Agree completely with the above comment. The irony of this guy getting rocked by Parros would be amazing.

  13. hagigun - Jul 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    As someone who sticks up for Bert in this case, here is what I will say. I do not agree with his actions, but do not feel it is justified to punish or hold him down for things out of his control.

    Facts:
    -Steve Moore put a very questionable hit on the Vancouver Captain Naslund in a recent match-up. A dangerous knee hit if I remember correctly.
    -Steve Moore was not on an NHL team to score goals. Lets say he had a more “Physical” role and knew as much.
    -In a rematch of teams, Moore fights Cooke and wins out. (Wouldn’t call this equal toughness)
    -Vancouver still does not feel Moore has received proper “Punishment” for his actions on Naslund
    -Bertuzzi is skating after Moore, challenging him to a fight late in a blowout.
    -Moore does not accept the challenge and refuses to answer to a bigger man for his questionable/dangerous hit because he knew harm was coming.
    -Bertuzzi punches at Moore from behind/side of head out of frustration for Moore not “Man-ning up” for what he had done.

    **What transpires from here on out is the “accident” portion that people can not separate from Bertuzzi’s actions.

    Bertuzzi did not take Moore’s helmet off and slam his bare head into the ice. The helmet was dislodged from the punch/fall and the buckling of Moore sends him tumbling down to the ice hitting his bare head. This is what caused the serious injuries and the permanent damage that resulted.

    So what did Bert really do here? He stuck up for a teammate, lost his cool, tried to make a goon answer for their actions. When that goon didn’t step up and face the REAL music (Cooke is not answering for your actions) he threw a punch from behind. Cowardly sure, dumb for damn sure, but he didn’t have much choice since Bert had made up his mind he was going to engage Moore with or without his blessing.”

    I am not condoning the actions of Bertuzzi, not at all. I am also not condoning Moore’s actions. If your role is to agitate and play physical and on the edge, you better expect to defend yourself when necessary. Moore knew the Canucks were after blood. A player doesn’t have to engage, but they better expect retaliation when they make questionable hits on Captains of other teams and then run and hide from it.

    Lets put it this way…how many scrums break out in the corners or in front of the net in which guys come storming in wildly and start throwing punches to help out teammates?

    It happens quite often actually. There were plenty of plays like that in the most recent post season. Blind punches from the side/behind happen in scrums frequently. What doesn’t happen often is the helmet coming off, the players head banging the ice and the ensuing melee.

    To summarize: Moore planted the seeds of destruction with his style of play, his dangerous hit on the Van Captain, and the refusal to answer to a bigger man to take his punishment. Bertuzzi lost his cool and swung at a defenseless player by his own choice.

    The real shame is the string of bad luck: hitting Moore in such “perfect” spot or way where he totally collapses and buckles to the ground. That is helmet slips off on the awkward way he fell. That his bare head smashed the ice violently and without cushion.

    Again, Bertuzzi I’m sure regrets his actions. I doubt he intended for all this to happen. He does have to answer for his ACTIONS but I feel like people want him to be responsible for the accident and the actions that are just out of his control.

    If you “recklessly” decided not to stop for gas in a thunderstorm and push your luck, then ran out of gas on the side of the road a few miles away. Lightning then struck your car and ended up killing your passenger, should you be held liable for their death? You made a dumb decision that led to the death of somebody. Whether its “Nature” in this case, or “Physics” in Bert’s case, neither final result was intended. It may be a dumb example, but its just hard to get across the point that no one can or should be held responsible for all the accidents and subsequent actions out of their control because of a previous mistake in judgment and action.

    • killerpgh - Jul 18, 2012 at 3:44 PM

      Are you really comparing someone getting struck by lightning to attacking someone fom behind? That might be dumber than what Parker said.

      • hagigun - Jul 18, 2012 at 5:22 PM

        No, it’s a tough thing to compare like I said.

        You aren’t comparing “Actions” that the humans in the example can control. That is the point. Your example compares Bert’s “Actions” and the other scenarios “accident or unfortunate happening.” You have to compare actions to actions and accidents/bad luck to accidents/bad luck.

        Bertuzzi attacked someone from behind: Someone doesn’t stop for gas in a storm. (These are the controllable actions)

        Moore gets knocked out instantly from the “perfect” punch causing his knees to buckle and him to fall in a way that his helmet slips away from his head and it crashes violently onto the ice: Lighting strikes a metal object on a road not in motion causing the passenger to die. (These are the accidents or unfortunate happenings from the previous actions)

      • killerpgh - Jul 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM

        So if you push a guy off a cliff and he dies after falling 100 feet to the ground it is not as bad since the ground caused the damage? That seems to be similar to what you are saying. If Burtuzzi would have acted like a man and went after Moore face to face I would have some sympathy for his situation if the similiar reults happened. But the way he went about he should have been suspended a lot longer than 20 game. Moore’s NHL career ended after being attacked that day. No longer able to provide for his family the way he was. And it only cost Burtuzzi 13 game checks.

    • t9tookey - Jul 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

      First, at best, Steve Moore was a checking center who could play physical but by no means was he a goon. I watched this guy since he came into the AHL and he could never be considered a goon. A pest, sure, but not a goon. Scott Parker is a goon. Literally, even in the AHL, the “Sheriff” couldn’t do anything other than fight. Parker may talk this way now but if he’d been in Colorado when this happened he would left the bench to beat the ever-lovin snot out of Bertuzzi.

      The amazing part is that the arguments for Bertuzzi are “two wrongs make a right” arguments. Moore hit Naslund so Moore deserved what Bertuzzi did. Meadow muffins! If Bertuzzi was that hot to take down Moore, then he should have come at him head first instead of charging Moore from behind after he turned away. Moore didn’t want to fight, he already fought that game. Bertuzzi should have respected that and saved it for another game.

      • hagigun - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM

        Again, all I am really saying is people go way overboard when reacting to the Bertuzzi Moore incident.

        Just like another poster points out…It should be about intent.

        Would you rather have Bertuzzi take a swing at you from behind, or have Shea Weber slam your face/head into the glass?

        If you have no idea how this is going to end up…I would probably think if i had a helmet on, I’d take the punch from Bertuzzi.

        The results of the 2 hits are so different and that is the unfortunate part for Moore and Bertuzzi. Sure Bert should have been suspended. I do not deny that. But people that want to rank this as one of the dirtiest hits ever have no clue about hockey. Send him to Jail? You gotta be kidding me.

        Tell me this, do you think Moore ever thinks to himself, ” Why didn’t I just turn around and fight him. Face up for what I did?”

        I feel terrible for Moore and the injuries he suffered, the pain and trauma, the family issues that all this has caused. I do not wish to see any player hurt like that. It was a few bad decisions, a cheap play by Bert and one of the worst “accidents” I have ever seen on the ice. No one could have forseen the damage a punch like that would have caused.

  14. rekingcrew - Jul 18, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    Moore elbow Naslund, Big Bert smash Moore.Moore injured. 5hit happens.

  15. eyeh8goodell - Jul 18, 2012 at 4:58 PM

    1) Parker sounds like your typical meathead who is intimidated by people more educated than he is, not to mention the smart guy was also a better hockey player.

    2) Moore answered the bell. Not his fault or his problem that the outcome wasn’t to vancouver’s liking.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jul 18, 2012 at 7:13 PM

      you must not know people from Harvard

  16. canuckinamerica - Jul 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    Whoa hagigun. Exactly how many times have YOU been hit in the head in your life?

  17. kitshky - Jul 18, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    It was “one of those games” … and it shows perfectly how fragile the line that hockey walks.

    Bertuzzi suckerpunched a player from behind, if Moore doesn’t fracture a vertabre he gets (and deserved) a 10 game suspension, maybe a bit more because of the premeditated nature of the whole thing, but a suspension nonetheless. Moore does fracturea vertabre … and Bertuzzi is the worst human being alive.

    I’m in no way defending the action, or downplaying the injury, but peoples reaction to this sort of hit while tossing a blind eye to hits like Weber on Zetterberg does my head in. (Thats a recent examply of a player being hit but not injured, I’m not getting into a debate about that hit)

    It’s been said so many times before …but until this league starts punishing intent and not injury any claim they make about working to reduce injury is BS.

  18. sergeikremlin - Jul 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    This guy is a joke.

    He says Bertuzzi got dealt bad cards, but Bertuzzi was the dealer. He created the situation by following Moore around and grabbing him from behind to cheap shot him with a huge bear paw, and with no regard for Moore’s vulnerability, Moore ended up with a broken neck (and it could have been a lot worse).

    Was Bertuzzi’s intention to break Moore’s neck? No.

    Is it a drunk drivers intent to kill a family? No.

    I’m not comparing the two, but the point is there to be made that you’re responsible for the results that flow from your irresponsible actions, no matter what you intended.

    It’s a tough lesson in Bertuzzi’s life, but he is still playing pro hockey, and more importantly, Moore is able to use his limbs and live a normal life.

    • themajorleagueblog - Jul 19, 2012 at 4:26 AM

      I understand where Parker is coming from, he’s rationalizing it. Accidents happen, Todd Bertuzzi wasn’t going to Steve Moore expecting to end his career. Steve Moore should’ve known better, in my opinion, for his previous actions in those Canucks-Avalanche games. I feel sympathy for Moore, but I can understand justifying it. However, Parker shouldn’t be the guy talking about this.

      So, the Näslund elbow in the teams’ February 2004 matchup and the whole fighting Matt Cooke in the game that ended his career didn’t put the target on his back. As far as I’m concerned, they both had ways to prevent what happened. He’d be naïve to expect no one to retaliate against him.

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  19. sjsharks66 - Jul 18, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    Do you not remember how upset everyone was about the weber incident? You couldn’t read an article without someone referencing the WWF.

  20. dmfc1112 - Jul 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    When will the NHL realize that the instigator rule causes more problems than it prevents?? Let the players police themselves like they used to. Do you think Steve Moore would throw such a cheap shot elbow at Markus Naslund if the Canucks enforcer could just come do his thing w/o fear of a 2 minute penalty for standing up for his teammates?? If the league wants to do the policing then maybe they should have given Moore a minimum of 10 games (instead of the 3 he got) for taking out one of the league’s top 5 players with an intentional cheap shot?? Does anybody wonder why the bad blood just kept boiling???? The NHL basically gave Moore a slap on the wrist. What followed was horrible and could have been prevented by the league. I think the NHL should get the instigator on this one.

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