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Twitter reacts to owners’ first CBA proposal

Jul 14, 2012, 8:30 AM EDT

However it happened, the world found out about the NHL owners’ rather brash first CBA proposal. One can debate how serious it really is – negotiations often open with offers so bold they border on humor fiction – but Twitter reactions were worth the lockout worries and everything that came with it. Here’s a survey of some of the most interesting stuff.

Michael Russo captured many of our thoughts about how the “cordial” descriptions of the meetings might be a bit of a smokescreen – or at least a thing of the past – now that this information is out there.

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Seth Rorabaugh of Empty Netters laughed off the owners’ goal to drop the players’ revenue split from 57 to 46 percent.

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Leave it to Stephen Whyno – a guy with a cute dog as his avatar – to drop a Scooby Doo in his reaction.

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Speaking of animals, Chris Kuc is a sad panda.

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There’s pandas and then there’s Santa, whose mystical arrival might just come when hockey season might start, if you ask Dave Stubbs.

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Bruce Arthur’s doom and gloom bothers me more than other peoples’ doom and gloom, for some reason.

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Jeff Marek isn’t getting too worked up, though.

source:  Interesting bit: James Mirtle says the players’ cut will drop 19 percent, not 11.

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Adam Proteau got a little superstitious, with the news breaking on July 13 and all.

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You probably won’t hear much from players since Donald Fehr likely told them to keep quiet, but perhaps we’ll hear from minor league/NHL “tweeners” such as Mike McKenna. We’ll leave you with his interesting perspective.

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  1. hockeyknowledge - Jul 14, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    This is what i was afraid of. The media got a hold of CBA talks. Now it’s complicated.

  2. mikeyhigs - Jul 14, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    James Mirtle says it’s a 19% cut, not 19% less of the revenues. 19% less of the revenues would equal a 33% cut.

  3. jaybertx - Jul 14, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    Oh noes!! The sky is falling!!

  4. lordfletcher - Jul 14, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    did people think the owners were going to put it a competitive offer for the players in their first proposal?

    The owners are business men, they will negotiate till their toes turn blue and try to get every penny they can.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM

      Exactly, now the players come back with their proposal which is equally ridiculous the other way, then slowly the two sides whittle their way down and meet somewhere near the middle. This isn’t like 2004-05 where they’re completely trying to build a new system, this is using the same system with new numbers and a few other slightly tweaked things.

      Everyone should calm down, this is a regular part of the collective bargaining process.

    • lordfletcher - Jul 14, 2012 at 2:31 PM

      Very important facts that no one ever seems to want to mention:

      In no CBA is agreed to by September 15 (the day the current CBA expires, yes there still is a current CBA) nothing actually happens. Under the relevant labor laws, if a CBA expires and is not replaced both employers and employees are required to operate under the terms of the expired CBA until it is replaced. Literally what that means is that play will continue under the existing rules until either the owners lock players out or the players go on strike. Donald Fehr has pledged that the players are willing to start the season, if genuine (and not just a horrible media ploy) the owners and players are likely to agree to a no-stoppage clause and play this season under the expired CBA (as has happened multiple times in league history, albeit once without the no-stoppage clause which bit the owners).

      If the owners lock players out (potentially could be a good short-term plan as revenues from October through December are markedly lower than revenues for the rest of the season) it starts costing them money in January. If they’re confident they can secure a favorable deal in that timeframe (that seems like a big no considering the factors involved) they might be willing to lockout players until December/January. I’d put this at a relatively low probability of occurring unless the players refuse to agree to a no-strike clause on the season.

      If the players were to strike, they would be unable to seek replacement employment, so they’d be unable to play in the AHL, Europe, wherever. Because of that, and the seasonal nature of player compensation, it’s unlikely the players would strike prior to April. However, Fehr is most notable for engineering a player strike between the final game of the season and the playoffs in baseball. That’s the point where the players may have the most negotiating room. Considering the structure of the league’s deal with NBC, I’m not so certain the players would have that leverage there in this case.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM

        All good and valid points, because this year is already under way (cap # set, majority of free agents signed, rookie camps done) it would seem that even with a brand new agreement the majority of changes won’t be felt until 2013-14 anyways so signing a “no labor stoppage” agreement between the sides until the day after next years draft would seem to make sense.

        The league obviously wants players playing by the time the outdoor classic takes place (much like the nba’s christmas games) this is seen as the crown jewel regular season game, although an interesting factor is that NBC are starting their coverage earlier this year, they’ve got games scheduled for the day after US Thanksgiving so no doubt the league will want to be playing for that day.

        Last point, and. It’s fairly minor, but I think you’re referencing the 1994 baseball strike, it didn’t start in between the regular season and playoffs, it actually started in mid-August.

  5. paul621 - Jul 14, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Twitter didn’t “react” to anything. People reacted, and used Twitter to express those reactions.

  6. hitem396 - Jul 14, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    why all negative? nhl has smaller market than nba, n lots of teams are having money problem. its just a initial proposal. around 50% would be good n players can get backups from other things like entry salary n UFA terms n else. as a hockey fan, i support nhlpa, but owners also need to make money. we cant just blame them

  7. jl9830 - Jul 14, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    I’m not sure hockey in the U.S. survives another extended lockout. It’s not popular enough to withstand two lockouts in a ten-year span. The parties involved hopefully realize that.

    • lordfletcher - Jul 14, 2012 at 2:26 PM

      if there is a lockout, it won’t last longer than 2-3 months, at the most… US hockey will be fine.

      The players need to understand that the owners won’t mind missing the first two months of hockey when average ticket sales are at there lowest….

      I just hope both parties know there are no winners if this takes any games away from the fans.

  8. bleed4philly - Jul 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    This will end up near the 50/50 range. What needs to happen is another team needs to move to Canada, and another needs to move to Seattle. Teams in the south don’t have the revenues needed to stay relevant. And long island still has a team? Cmon, it’s 2012.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 14, 2012 at 1:44 PM

      I agree, although I wouldn’t be disappointed to see 2-4 teams disappear and then relocate some others. The owners need to realize. If they want to maximize revenues they need teams in strong hockey markets, I think you could move 2-3 more teams to Canada, not sure about Seattle though, do they have anything going for it (fan base, new arena etc) in terms of landing a team? I’d say KC (since I was somehow called a shill for getting a team in KC) but the only thing they have is a building, they have no potential owners and don’t seem to have the fan base.

      • mikeyhigs - Jul 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM

        And if you eliminated 4 teams, you could have the “contraction” draft with those teams’ players in the pool. that would generate better ratings than the normal draft

      • creasemasta41 - Jul 14, 2012 at 5:21 PM

        now that would be one hell of a draft to watch. Although youd have to wonder who gets first overall pick, and then wed have to hear fans give their reasoning for an nhl conspiracy as to why their team didn’t get first. but imagine if a team like the devils fold and the pens or caps end up getting kovy. that would make things interesting. man speculation is fun :)

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