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Ex-Canuck Samuelsson: Burrows shouldn’t have bitten Bergeron

Jul 12, 2012, 11:37 AM EDT

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Detroit Red Wings forward Mikael Samuelsson recently conducted an interview with Swedish website that touched on a number of subjects, including the infamous Alex BurrowsPatrice Bergeron finger biting incident from the 2011 Stanley Cup finals.

Samuelsson — an outspoken figure that told the Swedish Olympic team to “go [expletive] themselves” after snubbing him for the 2010 games — wasn’t exactly enthralled with his former teammate’s actions.

(Note: Google translate ahead)

“It was perhaps not altogether successfully for Burrows to bit Patrice Bergeron in the finger during the first game. After Boston was really pissed off. You could say that it was the wrong team to anger.

“They play the very physical and I can probably think it would have been better to let the bear to sleep, if you know what I mean.”

This wasn’t the only, ahem, opinion Samuelsson held on the Canucks organization. He also said he “had no high opinion” of Vancouver’s management and that it might have been good to be traded to Florida.

  1. bekay19 - Jul 12, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    DONT POKE THE BEAR!! Burrows is a B****

  2. mclovinhockey - Jul 12, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    The Bs just got what was coming to them… Savard anyone?

    • capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:08 PM

      You’re an idiot..

    • mgp1219 - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:25 PM

      hey mclovinhockey,

      you’re exactly right…the B’s got the CUP baby!!!

    • homelanddefense - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:44 PM

      you do know Savard wasnt on the Bruins when he bit someone right? Its amazing how often you post on here and are inaccurate in your assumptions

      • homelanddefense - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM

        haha, now I see you are referring to the Carcillo “bite” where Carcillo sucker punched Savard is his post concussed head. Then put him in a headlock.

  3. capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Ha. I love it. Why some people here get upset when others state the facts about the Canucks is a mystery. The Canucks have a ton of talent and are capable of winning a cup, IMO. That doesn’t change the fact that their roster is full of players who embellish or who cheap shot and then don’t back it up. Burrows, the Sedins, Lappierre, Kesler, Hansen have all pulled that crap. They are a talented team that is easy to hate bc of the way they play on the ice. Maybe every team has some of that but the Canucks obviously build their team based on skilled players who aren’t accountable..maybe bc they don’t want their team to be in the box too often. I don’t know…either way, they are full of a bunch of players who try and trick the refs or who simply won’t back up their actions on the ice.

  4. eyeh8goodell - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Funny, though, how Bergeron gets a free pass for sticking his glove in Burrows’ face. A face wash is every bit as disrespectful as spitting or biting. If anybody sticks their sweaty glove finger in my mouth, i’d try to bite it off too.

    • mgp1219 - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26 PM

      do you watch ANY NHL games???

    • capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM

      You’re trying to compare a facewash, which happens about 30 times every game, with someone biting? And you played the ‘disrespect’ card…come on..spitting and biting is WAY worse than a facewash and you know that.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      idiot, you cant justify biting someone in a hockey game…ever. you must not have ever played or watched a hockey game before

  5. mclovinhockey - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    I’m assuming capesouth made the idiot comment directed at me… I’m on a phone so I can’t tell, however, saying how players from the Canucks embellish (which they do) then leaving out things about the bruins is crazy. Okay we all know Bergeron got bitten, Savard took a piece out of carcillo as well a few years before this but no one cared. Then Savard said carcillo tried to rip his jaw off…. Yeah cause carcillo is the hulk and can do that with one hand… Okay well the Bs are a very dirty and cheap team. Marchand, lucic, Horton, chara, Ferrence… Between them you have diving, dirty hits, ducking and just flat out some of the ugliest player in the league. Just saying. You have to take your own team into consideration. Carcillo is a diver as well, that’s another fact, so are half the penguins team. Lots of players in the league dive… That’s just how it is… I think Darcy tucker was the worst in history, I want to punch him in the face so bad!

    • capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM

      I said you’re an idiot for your comment about it being good Savard got his head taken off and then having his career ended. I also said every team has some of what the Canucks do in that they are cheap or embellish. It’s just the canuck’s build their team on that type of play. The Bruin’s at least back up their actions. They don’t bite, they certainly instigate but they don’t then skate away when the conflict is about to come to blows, like the Canucks. Also, let’s talk about something current..not an incident that happened years ago. I could bring up plenty of things from years ago about any team but it doesn’t relate to this discussion at all..and these CURRENT teams.

      • homelanddefense - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM

        plus I dont recall any Bruins ducking. Unless you are talking about instances where another teams enforcer tries to force a fight against a top line player in a situation that would be ridiculous for the Bruin to oblige.

      • mathieug79 - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:44 PM

        do you recall Brad Marchand ducking?? or are you considering marchand a top liner?

      • elvispocomo - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM

        Selective memory does help tailor your recall so you can’t think of anything.

        Remember when so much was made of Weise not fighting Thornton off the face off that one game? Then the Vancouver reporter went on the talk show and defended Weise? Thornton lied about how he thought Weise wanted to fight him – he knew Weise and McQuaid were the ones wanting to go. He also lied when he said he’d fought multiple times in a period when the reporter (who I dislike, but regardless) mentioned Weise had just fought and Thornton had never been expected to fight right after in his career.

        This is a circular argument; all teams are guilty of many of the things being claimed against others. Call it ducking or diving or biting or whatever, but Boston’s done it. So has Vancouver, so has 28 other teams.

        This is the first time I’d heard any player speak against the current management, but there are plenty that laud them with praise, so it may just be his experience.

      • capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 3:11 PM

        it is a circular argument when trying to compare specific incidents on the ice. However, the point is the Bruins and Canucks are polar opposites when it comes to style of play. Look at it from a birds eye view, so to speak, vs trying to come up with examples why each team is ‘dirty’. It is fairly well known the Bs, and some of the better teams in the east, play a more physical, in your face style. That goes hand in hand with being accountable and not making it a habit of diving, embellishing, or instigating and then walking away. The Canucks are talented and can be physical but their style is not built on physical play. It is more about finesse and talent. For some reason, maybe to compensate for lack of physicality, they try to draw penalties by diving and embellishing. That is the goal of such behavior. It looks terrible though and obviously people are going to respect someone, or a team in this case, that is accountable and not always trying to goad other teams without backing it up.

      • elvispocomo - Jul 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM

        I’d argue they’re more involved after the whistle and with intimidation than the Canucks, but the Canucks were on average bigger players and the hit leaders that year in the playoffs – they even out hit the Bruins in the SCF. There are different definitions of physical and it depends on which one you look at, even if they do play a more skilled game.

        There are plenty of examples for the Bruins of diving, embellishing and instigating (with walking away or having someone big stand in for you when you have to answer), and other teams have them as well, it’s just an argument that the two fan bases are going to repeat since there will always be some fan who thinks his team has done no wrong.

      • bcousy - Jul 12, 2012 at 5:00 PM

        Since the focus is on current teams, it seems as though suspensions and fines are useful metrics that can help determine how “dirty” a team is, at least in the eyes of the league. (It’s not the only way, of course, and I agree with Elvis that every team has its share of offenders.)

        So, keeping it “current,” in 2011-12, regular season and playoffs, the league handed out a combined nine games worth of suspensions to three Bruins (Lucic, Marchand, Ference) and fined two Bruins $2,500 each. The league handed out two (playoff) games worth of suspensions to one Canuck (Bitz) and no fines.

        Does it means the Bruins are a dirtier team than the Canucks? Not necessarily. But does it make it absurd to imply that the Bruins play an honorable brand of hockey in comparison to other teams in the league? Absolutely.

      • capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 5:45 PM

        I would argue it is a representation of the fact that the Bruin’s play a physical style and that is the price they pay. We all know (most of us) that if being physical is part of your game, it is pretty tough to know exactly when to hit someone or let up and not hit them. You can’t easily make that decision in a split second. So that stuff happens. The Canucks aren’t suspended that much because they aren’t as aggressively physical. Also, I haven’t seen one suspension the league has handed out that a major contingent of fans hasn’t disagreed with. So, yes in the leagues eyes, the Bruins are worthy of more suspensions but why use that as a metric when everyone disagrees on what is suspension-worthy. I think the jury is still out on how the league is doing with all that…pretty tough job though.

  6. capsfan19 - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    I did and the caps knocked em out first round son!! Who wouldve thought

  7. BurkieInBoston - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    With the Cup now belonging to the LA Kings, it has to be comforting for all non-Canuck NHL fans that Burrows, Lappierre, Gillis, Vigneault and company get to spend another off-season jerking off on their 2nd straight President’s Trophy …

  8. mclovinhockey - Jul 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    My comment was at Savard for biting, not getting his head taken off by that D bag… K well that was a misunderstanding.

  9. mclovinhockey - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Marchand ducked 3 times last year. Once against the canucks, 2 vs the habs in one game (I think it was against emlin and Subban). Savard was on the B’s when that happened. All my posts are based on facts. Not opinions, and are very rarely inaccurate.

  10. mclovinhockey - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Homeland is def a biased homer… Your name isn’t Terry Duffy JR is it? I know someone a lot like u from Facebook who always makes crap up and is a Bs fan. Smart hockey fan until it comes to his team. Then he even defends Lucic for running Miller. He even Defends Ferrence for the finger as well

  11. pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    The bite just would have been a dirty play if they hadn’t have followed it up the way they did. First – Burrows lied – at least there wasn’t a definitive camera shot of the alleged Savard bite (he probably did it). Secondly- There probably isn’t a more stand up guy in the league than Bergeron (st. louis? Moulson?) thirdly – the bruins Captain and Assistant captain didn’t go on national television and talk about how savard was a vegetarian. Lastly- after Carcillo accused savard the bruins didn’t run around shoving fingers in their faces.
    getting very sick of (Buffalo, Van, and MTL) fans calling the B’s dirty. Marchand is a pest and his low hits are BS. Lucic is not dirty, Horton is not dirty, Chara is not dirty. The Bruins are not a dirty team (sans marchand- who won’t do it again, and also asked the league if it was a clean hit in the offseason(they said it was ok), but nonetheless – it’s cheap). There is a difference between dirty and tough. if someone punches lucic or cross checks him and he happens to do it back – that doesn’t make him dirty. It makes it so in the future someone won’t hit him. Dirty is not PK Subban throwing a flying elbow at Krejci and then turtle-ing as lucic tries to beat him senseless to defend a teammate. There is a difference between defending and initiating.

    Please tell me what in the last 3 years has Horton, Lucic, Chara, or Ference done that could even remotely be considered cheap. Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

    • elvispocomo - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:07 PM

      If your looking to pull the innocent until someone proves to me they’re guilty routine, I’ve wasted way too much time pointing things out to people I don’t care about on a topic that doesn’t really matter.

    • leninthebuff - Jul 13, 2012 at 8:34 AM

      Normally I wouldn’t enter this fray but give me a break on Lucic…after the game of the Miller hit Boston came right out and said they knew they had no one to answer to on the Buffalo bench, (because Darcy is behind the times) the opportunity was there and they took it. Lucic is a good hockey player but not one that is looked at with respect outside of Boston. He is a wanna-be tough guy who built his rep on weak opponents…he quit vs Orr, he quit vs Vandermeer because he was getting hit in his big beak. When Laraque face washed him he turned away…and what do Boston fans use as an excuse ‘he was told not to fight’ but now if that is Kaleta or Gustad then it is ok to fight…lol what a joke of a tough guy. I will guarantee you this, with John Scott on the roster Lucic will not pull that $hit and I will bet you Scott challenges Lucic this year and Thornton will have to do his dirty work for him.
      Let me further explain, I have no problem with Bostons style of play in terms of intimidation…I prefer that style but don’t make them out to be clean. Defend Boychuk’s axing of Vanek’s ankle in the play-offs.
      Chara is another guy who is tough mattering who his opponent is, he dropped them with Laraque and proceded to tackle him instead of going toe to toe….twice by the way.
      Thornton is an honest hockey player, takes on all plus he can play some hockey.
      Since I’m a Buffalo fan I will say Kaleta belongs with Marchand, rats to the core. When Kaleta headbutted someone last year I was really hoping his act had gone stale here and he would not be resigned, to this point he was tendered an offer but is yet resigned.

      The Bruins are not angels.

      • bildomatic - Jul 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

        People often make this mistake with Lucic throwing him into the Enforcer weight class when it comes to fighting. That is not who he is, he is a 1st line (not in my opinion thats just where he lines up) power forward wing that plays a physical style who is expected to play with grit and some ugliness. Laraque’s of the world whose only job is to fight and average around 6minutes a game are not the guys Lucic needs to be accepting challenges from it would be stupid to make that trade off. That said if Laraque or someone of that calibur suits up for Buffalo and challenges him after the Miller incident then yes I believe Lucic accepts and goes with him, but not in a random scuffle after the whistle. Thornton is the Bruins tough guy enforcer not Lucic and that’s why Thornton will answer the bell against anyone and Lucic doesn’t have to. That’s why Lucic doesn’t need to face off against Scott next season it would be stupid for him and the Bruins to make that trade off when Thornton can step up and do what he is paid to do.

  12. pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Who cares about a ference finger? it’s not dirty play. I implore you watch the lucic/miller video. Lucic doesn’t see him until the :03 mark – head down just skating. if you have ever played the game- you know you are not expecting to see the goalie in the face off circle. once he see’s him it’s too late. Lucic follows through- no doubt but Miller also turns directly into it. Watch where miller is at the :03 and :04 second marks- please understand Lucic is going what 17-22 Mph. It was brace himself or take the brunt for himself. He braced. Also, note miller swinging his stick as if to chop wood, but that’s not dirty is it?

    • BurkieInBoston - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM

      Ultimate shut your face answer to Lucic/Miller controversy …

      … sounds like this type of crap won’t be seen much this year in NE Division. Lots of tough guys signed by other teams, if I recall correctly?

    • mnhockey24 - Jul 12, 2012 at 7:12 PM

      clean hit all the way

  13. mclovinhockey - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    Well Ferrence ad lucic have both been suspended last year, Ferrence should have been for the finger, lucic should have been for multiple sucker punches and running miller.

    • pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM

      Yeah it was a bad hit on Mcdonough but not intentionally dirty. If you watch the play Ference should have been suspended but he wan’t trying to run him. Watch Mcdonough right leg. they bump skates ( Ferecence’s fault) but by no means was he trying to hit him from behind. Like I said- if you have ever played the game you would understand the speed. Ference made a bad judgement error but not dirty- just stupid.

    • bildomatic - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:28 PM

      This McLovin is a pretty accurate portrayal of how dense the character in the movie was. I can’t tell if he is in character or actually this thick…

  14. pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    Quote from Mcdonogh
    “It’s a fast play. He’s coming in there pretty fast and I’ve gone back for pucks like that numerous times during my career, and I didn’t even realize that he – until I watched the ruling video – that he clips my skate and that’s probably what puts me off-balance a little bit. And it wasn’t like it was intentional. And if he probably doesn’t accidentally do that, I probably don’t go flying into the boards because I have good balance and I’m leaning into him. It was an unfortunate play and I was just fortunate that I wasn’t too hurt or anything like that.”

  15. pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Mclovin;? under your current qualifier which seems to be suspensions these players are all dirty:

    Giroux, Backstrom, Hanzal, Hagelin, Quincy, Doan, Myers, Green, Leino, Letang, PM Bouchard, and bad boy Brad Boyes.

    • elvispocomo - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:13 PM

      In his defence, you did ask for anything any of the supplied players had ever done that could remotely be considered dirty. At least he didn’t go for the obvious one and point out Chara’s late hit on Pacioretty the resulted in serious injury to make you look stupid.

      • pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:53 PM

        Do you mean the interference call? The one the league made mandatory league wide rink changes about. Are you talking about this hit? oh whoops…

      • pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        or this one?

      • pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:58 PM

        Of the three the umberger/Doughty one is the only one that could be interpreted as intentional – Chara wasn’t even looking. Pacioretty catches hit shoulder like Ennis and NOBODY even notices the hit. MTL and their fans are a joke. Call the cops!!!

  16. sergeikremlin - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    Mikael “The Bridge Burner” Samuelsson. Just goes to show how much more interesting 2011 SCF was than this year’s, that these stories are still coming out and generating more interest.

    • capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 3:13 PM

      so true

  17. BurkieInBoston - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    Almost forgot about douchebag Torres …

    • capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM

      darth quaider

  18. kitshky - Jul 12, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    PHT see’s a clip / interview that mentions the Bruins v. Canucks final … and just starts drooling.

  19. mclovinhockey - Jul 12, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    I guess the unbiased truth makes people react with hate. Sorry

    • pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM

      I love how you ignore the facts. no response to the Ference/Mcdonogh quote? or the facts about Chara hit? just change the topic and find somehting else to be a victim of. good plan.

      • pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 4:53 PM

        Also- who reacted with hate? just curious? I showed evidence in opposition to your statements. No hate. unless disagreeing with you = hate; I don’t understand. you don’t like actual facts, do you?

    • pepper2011 - Jul 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM

      also this seems for hateful than anything else on here….

      “The Bs just got what was coming to them… Savard anyone?”

      what is your home team or favorite team – you claim to be unbiased?

    • bildomatic - Jul 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM

      Your version of the truth may be unbiased but that doesn’t mean it is out of touch with reality

  20. cincnatis439 - Jul 12, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    We will always look at our team in the most fovorable light. All teams dive hoping for a call. The refs call diving but they wont. A facewash is ok in hockey chewing on another players didgits is not.

    • capesouth - Jul 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM

      and some dive more than others…

  21. blomfeld - Jul 14, 2012 at 11:23 PM


    It’s funny how something as “childish and harmless” as biting someone’s fingers can get such a reaction, while smashing someone’s head into a dasher post the way Chara did, is considered to be just a “part of the game” ? I’m reminded of that adage that the biggest talkers are usually the biggest wimps. Big Bad Bruins my ass ! If they’re the “tough guys” they claim to be, then the Burrows thing should have remained as nothing more than the “comical” moment it was. Instead, the Bruins used something which your puppy dog does to you on a daily basis, as some sort of a battle cry. Don’t get me wrong … I loved what the Bruins did last year to the Canucks, as their victory “greatly” furthered the cause for getting rid of Luongo here. But please stop with the “tween-like” complaints about finger biting !

    • bildomatic - Jul 16, 2012 at 12:09 PM

      You’d rather get Luongo out of town than win a Stanley Cup? The Bruins are just big talkers? Who have you seen push them around and bully like they did to the ‘Nucks last summer?

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