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Sounds like Paul Martin will be back in Pittsburgh next season

Jul 6, 2012, 12:24 PM EST

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The Pittsburgh Penguins are no longer “actively shopping” defenseman Paul Martin, reports the Tribune-Review.

Yes, the same thing was reported last week, but if Ryan Suter had taken the Pens’ offer instead of the Wild’s, Martin would surely be on the block now.

Martin, 31, has admitted his play has underwhelmed since signing a five-year, $25 million deal two summers ago. However, if the Pens were to move him, a replacement would have to be found – no easy task for GM Ray Shero.

Martin averaged 23:00 of ice time per game in 2011-12, second to only Kris Letang on the team.

  1. michael90212 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    I give Shero some credit for unloading the terrible contract he signed with Michalek. He’s damn lucky Phoenix took him back, apparently assuming he can be successful again on his old team. Without Phoenix, no other team in the league would have given up assets to get this dude and his overpayment.

    Looks like Shero’s going to be stuck with his other huge blunder from that summer. But who knows, maybe some team trying to reach the cap floor will take Martin off his hands too.

  2. napoleonblownapart6887 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    People want to rag on Martin more than he deserves I think. Last year through the first few months of the season he was abysmal, but once the lines changed and he started to play with Orpik he played a lot better – he posted a +16 in his final 17 games. Still not good enough to warrant $5million, but he’s not completely hopeless. Hopefully he picks up where he left off.

    • bmscalise - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:44 PM

      Martin never played with Orpik. He was switched from Michalek to Letang – and then posted those numbers playing beside him. Then Michalek – who apparently had hip issues – went on to make Orpik, his new defensive parter, look as bad as he had made Martin look early in the year.

      Shero dumped the right contract. As of now, the Pens definitely shouldn’t move any more defensemen. They need to start the season, see if guys like Despres and Morrow are ready to play with the big boys, and make a trade later in the year if the issues from last year are still persisting.

      • napoleonblownapart6887 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:49 PM

        You are correct sir – meant letang not Orpik.

        I also agree that Despres and Morrow, as well as Strait in my opinion are ready to be regulars. What do you think of this:

        Letang – Martin
        Orpik – Niskanen
        Despres – Morrow…. these two kind of remind me of Letang/Orpik light.
        Strait/Engelland as a 7th D man.

      • bmscalise - Jul 6, 2012 at 4:12 PM

        Those will be the top-4 to start the year likely. And I expect Despres to make the big club – and perhaps battle Nisky for the 4 spot, depending on how he does, injuries, etc.

        It’s asking a lot for Morrow to make the club, given that the Pens systems are notoriously hard to learn and that he has never played through the rigors of 82 games. They might give him a shot, but I suspect they’ll want him to learn the systems in WBS for the year (or most of it). He could play in Oct – but this is about April. The kid is only 19. They’ll want Morrow playing big minutes in the AHL, not bottom-line minutes with the big club.

        You also need to keep in mind that Lovejoy, Bortuzzo, and Strait all need to go through waivers and are NHL-ready bottom-pairing guys. They may lose one on waivers on the way back to WBS as it is. If Morrow takes a spot, then potentially 2 of them will be taken by other teams. And that’s if they keep 8 defensemen with the big club instead of 7. I just don’t see it – yet. Next year – he might have a real chance of making the team.

  3. sjsharks66 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    Martin is not to bad. I’d say give him another year and if it’s like last season dump him on another team.

  4. pens4life - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    Great just what we need! An average d-man that makes 5 mil a year

  5. pens4life - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    Still Martin is way over paid. I say go after Bobby Ryan and give the ducks Martin and Kennedy.

    • pens919209 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:11 PM

      Man, I hope you’re kidding. Otherwise, this is a classic case of over-valuing your assets… to put it politely.

    • flyersgoalscoredby88 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:53 PM

      Should we call that offer the “Anti-Howson”???

    • napoleonblownapart6887 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM

      Yeah I’m not sure Martin and Kennedy would get us a phone call with Bobby Ryan.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:40 PM

      Surely you’d want a draft pick back as well if you’re giving up all of that…

  6. capesouth - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    I really want the Bruins to do something…just so I can analyze my home team’s move. All this talk about Parise, Nash, Suter, Ryan, etc makes me just want to be a part of it. Patience is a virtue I guess…I want them to pick someone up…a mid-level talent with experience.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:43 PM

      The Bruins have $277,800 in cap space they can’t even afford to sign someone for the veteran minimum. If they want to add they need to either give up some assets or get someone to take Thomas’ $5 million dollar cap hit off their hands, which actually shouldnt be hard, since he’s not playing there’s no money being spent the $5 million is just an accounting number.

      • capesouth - Jul 6, 2012 at 4:47 PM

        They have the TT money you mentioned. That trade is going to happen but even if it doesn’t, they can defer his salary until next season when they ‘suspend’ him for sitting out. Either way, they will not just let that money sit there. There is the automatic 4 million they get from placing Savard on the LTIR, just like they did last year and during the second half 2 seasons ago. That money is a given. They made an offer on Parise..not that they were expecting anything from it but it proves they are not sitting there with only $277,000. So, depending on TT, they have potentially 9 million in funds. I don’t expect them to do anything. I would like to see a solid, consistent, veteran addition though.

      • claysbar - Jul 6, 2012 at 7:31 PM

        They have to spend up to the cap to receive cap credit for Savard. If they suspend TT, they need someone to spend that five mill on to reach the cap ceiling and be allowed the credit.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM

        Suspending Thomas doesn’t get rid of his cap number (I believe) because he’s a 35+ contract that number sticks with them which is why he waived his no trade clause so that cap hit could be traded to a team that needs it to reach the floor inspite of the fact that he will not play this season.

  7. sjsharks66 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    @pens4life

    The sharks will give you guys Murray, Handzus and a draft pick for TK. Handzus is almost as good as Ryan…..rite? Lol

  8. ironcity6pak - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    Well if we can’t trade then better use him and ride his ass all year long. Someone need to get in his face and light a fire under his ass

  9. pens4life - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Sjsharks66 when was I even talking about those people???? Can you remind me please?? I mentioned Bobby Ryan and since the pens are looking to trade for him. Sooo the pens should include Martin and Kennedy in that trade. I never spoke of the stuff you where going on about?? Am I missing something??

    • napoleonblownapart6887 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:59 PM

      You are missing something – he’s poking fun at you because he feels the hypothetical Martin-Kennedy deal you posed is terrible (which I do as well, but that’s neither here nor there).

      Those are not good pieces to start a deal with two guys who have not played up to their combined $7million in salary per year. If they want Ryan they have to offer young, cheap talent.

  10. pens4life - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    In fact I never mentioned the sharks! Hahahaha

    • Bliss Fortress - Jul 6, 2012 at 2:20 PM

      You apparently still don’t get it. Surmising the ‘Hahahaha’ is directed at yourself for lack of comprehension? Maybe re-read the reply by Napoleon: ‘he’s poking fun at you because he feels the hypothetical Martin-Kennedy deal you posed is terrible’

  11. sjsharks66 - Jul 6, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Lol it was a joke. Those 2 would not fit in a Bobby Ryan trade. The Ducks want 1st line players for the trade.

    Now would I love to have TK on the sharks? You bet your ass I would. Great 3rd line center and that’s what the sharks are missing.

    Don’t take it so serious. It was a joke for small talk.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

      They’re missing that and a heart for Joe…

  12. rockthered1286 - Jul 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again: you cannot evaluate prospects as proven talents simply because they were high draft picks and “look like” they’ll be great talents at the NHL level. While I agree Despres and Morrow look like they have potential to be solid players, if I’m the Ducks, I can’t bank on that. They will want some talent at the NHL level as well as a potential prospect and a pick. I’d venture to say they’d go for Despres and Kunitz, maybe a late pick as well.I know Pens fans would say no way in hell, but you’re looking at a proven offensive talent over the past 3 years, locked in for 3 more. No way in hell the Ducks let him go for chump change. They’ll want something back to help fill the offensive void, as well as young talent, allbeit unproven.

    I know from the Caps standpoint, they were saying at minimum Carlson or Alzner, a 1st rd pick and potentially more. There’s the reason we ducked out of the raffle.

    • highcountryhellcats - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:41 PM

      “I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again:” Come on, really? We’re in a ‘comment section’ on a site visited by thousands of strangers a day. Just get right into what you want to say, only forum blowhards come out firing with a silly ‘Look, I’m a genius but no one remembers’ statement like that. Would you talk to Joe-Fan like that at the concession stand in between periods? Nobody scanning through the comments cares what you’ve said before…

  13. GenoPringles - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Not sure about this move by Make it Rain Raymond. I’d trade this guy for a Nickelback CD. Martin just ain’t thick enough for the Soupcan Army

    • bmoreredfury311 - Jul 7, 2012 at 12:02 PM

      Yea you would listen to bad music like Nickelback.. dah soupcan army what a crappy army.

  14. purpleguy - Jul 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    Martin was a stud on the Gopher NCAA championship teams and sure played well for his old NHL team (justifying the $25M contract). I wonder how much of it is a system thing. The guy’s never going to ring up points. I’ll bet he’s better this year, fully realizing that’s not saying much.

  15. rockthered1286 - Jul 6, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    @highcountryhellcat
    How’s the weather up there on that high horse of yours? I was simply stating the fact that I’ve posted a similar comment on multiple posts. Get over it. Maybe next time reply with something hockey related instead of pompous and self serving?

    • xavier46 - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:50 PM

      It was quite a moronic post, really. I’ve thought that once before about your posts, and I’ll probably think it again.

  16. heyzeus143 - Jul 6, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    Puckmover Paul – yea, he’s so great, look at that body of work of first round exits, Letang can’t save his ass all season

  17. jnealsmanmeat - Jul 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    If martins girth is not on par with the soupcan army, he needs to be shown the door already. The Franchise cant have someone thats not girth worthy to sc

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