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Carolina GM would consider Semin on “a short-term basis”

Jul 6, 2012, 11:46 AM EDT

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 2: Alexander Semin #28 of Washington Capitals skates during warmups before Game Three of the Eastern Conference Semifinals of the 2012 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs against the New York Rangers on May 2, 2012 at the Verizon Center in Washington, DC. (Photo by Mitchell Layton/NHLI via Getty Images) Getty Images

The Carolina Hurricanes may have dropped out of the Rick Nash derby, but their search for a goal-scoring winger continues.

The list of players GM Jim Rutherford could pursue includes Bobby Ryan (trade), Shane Doan (UFA), Andrei Kostitsyn (UFA), and Petr Sykora (UFA).

Oh, and Alexander Semin. Can’t forget about Mr. Enigmatic Russian.

Would Rutherford roll the dice on the 28-year-old UFA that fell out of favor in Washington?

“We would look at Semin on a short-term basis,” Rutherford said, as per the News & Observer. “We wouldn’t want to get locked in to anything, because we’ve all heard the stories about him. We do like his skill level. It could be that we could bring him in for a year, get to know him and go from there in terms of considering something longer term.”

Whether Semin would consider a deal like that (or if he’d want to deal with a GM that clearly questions his character) is the question. It may be he’ll have to wait until the futures of Nash, Doan and Ryan are decided before he gets anything but lowballs. And even then, it’s no guarantee he’ll get anything more than that.

Remember when Semin scored 40 goals?

Related: UFA spotlight — Alexander Semin

  1. brianforster - Jul 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    if this guy was canadian hed have had multiple long term deals the start of free agency. this is very depressing as a huge fan of sashas, but i do suppose it increases the very slight chance he will return to washington.

    after the media outright insulting him, and every GM in the league treating him like a pariah, i don’t see why he doesn’t bolt to the KHL. hed get more respect, make more money, and hed probably have a lot more fun in the bigger rinks.

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

      Absolutely pathetic that you foolishly suggest that his nationality plays into this.
      Here’s a newflash
      GM’s like talented hockey players that can help the team
      He’s another, Russians get signed to long term contracts all the time

      Too bad your boy is garbage and uncoachable and rather than learn to play a system he is asked, would rather sulk and refuse to do so.

      Nobody will offer him any long term deal because of who he has always been.
      A guy who creates NOTHING
      A guy who’s entire game is predicated on others setting him up.
      A guys game who linemates have to try and cover up his failures defensively (lack of effort and positioning)
      A guy who disappears in crunch time EVERY time

      I get a kick out of these kids who think their team can change him. Nevermind he has gone through 3 or 4 coaches who have tried and failed. There are these Non GM’s who think that Semin has a positive value to a franchise. And 30 other REAL GM’s who see the reality of Semin.

      • dipthatchip - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:11 PM

        come at BrianForster and get your wig split, double desert eagles

      • bcjim - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM

        Ridiculous.

        Time will tell.

      • babykaby - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:40 PM

        You obviously know nothing of Semin. Apparently, you’re one of thsoe people who believe the opinions of the idiots, such as Milbury, McGuire, Cherry, etc. who watch a team play 5 or 6 times a year and think they know all there is to know about the way someone plays. I’ve watched Semin since he joined the Caps and he has been a great part of the team. His numbers have gone done the last couple of seasons, but so have every other player’s on the team, including Ovie’s. When you go from an overly agressive to a more defensive system that’s what happens. Semin does play both ends of the ice Quite well, thank you very much. There are many games when Sasha was the player putting out the MOST effort on the ice. His main problem is too many penalties. Semin and Ovie recently played with Russia in Worlds. Who won? Russia. Who was MVP? Semin. The Caps are going to miss Semin, especially since they will not get anyone to replace a guy with the skill or scoring power of Semin. I hate that he won’t be back. Want to hate him? Go ahead, but watch him, then make up your mind. Stop being a sheep, it is the downfall of this entire countr and it makes me sick..

  2. semin28 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    I love Semin

    • jpelle82 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM

      wouldve never guessed that….

  3. snipedanglecelly13 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    He can come to Detroit for a small deal, he b a great player with datsyuk a pass first player since ovi took all the shots. Love to have bobby ryan but I think it’s highly unlikely along with Rick Nash.

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:22 PM

      And then disappear in the playoffs and help a 1st round exit for the Wings because the Dats line will be basically be playing short-handed.

      I swear, if you’re a Red Wing fan and suggesting that this guy ever wear the Winged Wheel, you should be forced to pick a new team. The ONE fanbase that should ONLY value playoff performance and we have some of them being so utterly foolishly and desperate that they would hope that Holland and Babcock all of a sudden became the STUPIDEST Coach GM duo in the league.

      Blah Blah Blah Dats and Semin looks good at the worlds.
      LOL The Worlds, where the best don’t bother showing up and if they do give minimum effort.

      It’s about CUPS and PLAYOFF WINS
      Something Semin knows NOTHING about and who’s game completely fails and disappears when it’s time to go out and get it done.

      • langforc - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:49 PM

        I am a Wings fan and I personally would love for them to sign him. The signing of Samuelson will not cure the issues with the top six. Parise is gone and there is no reason to sell the farm to get Nash or Ryan (don’t know what the Ducks price on Ryan is).

        Since you value playoff success please tell me why Parise would’ve been so great. I wanted Parise just as much as the next Wings fan but he was a nonfactor in the final (something you pointed out Wings fans should value).

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:04 PM

        I didn’t want Parise, but at least Parise can be coached and has a 2 way game. But why are you trying to put words in my mouth? When did I mention Parise? Oh Right I didn’t.

        You are not a smart hockey person ok?
        I know it’s hard to accept, but you have a little boys understanding of hockey.
        Why is it that NOBODY is chasing Semin?
        Hockey people who have forgotten more about the game than these clueless wannabe GM’s are smart and paid big bucks to know what works and what doesn’t.

        And for the record, Parise has a much better track record in the playoffs, averaging more goals, assists and less PIM than Semin.

        But again, stupid ideas coming from the kids and the desperate that smart people in GM positions are totally rejecting and the kids not being able to understand why or questioning it.

        And it was awesome that you cherry pick Parise in the finals and make a negative out of it, while saying you want a guy who has never had 2 good playoff games in a row in his life.

      • langforc - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:22 PM

        I will attempt to have a sane conversation with you and I will refrain from insulting you as much as possible:

        I, admittedly, did cheery pick on the Parise comment. I also, assumed, as a knowledgable hockey fan you would be sane enough to want Parise on your team.

        Signing Semin to a 2-3 year deal and letting him prove himself is low risk. The Wings have some talented prospects coming up but they aren’t ready yet. Nyquist is close and Brunner is an unknown. Other than that they really aren’t ready but they have some serious fire power in waiting (Brunner, Nyquist, Pulkenien and Jurco just to name a few). The top 6 needs help and there is only one top six forward left that Kenny won’t have to trade for.

        Signing Semin short term allows you to take a low risk and if he doesn’t work out let him walk and the prospects will take over.

  4. snipedanglecelly13 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    And Washington doesn’t have the worst gm and head coaching duo?? What a joke lol, at least we have a cup with ours. Washington has yet to get one…

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:48 PM

      wtf are you babbling about?

    • yaytaco - Jul 6, 2012 at 6:35 PM

      The Caps playoff failure has been remarkable, but I don’t exactly think you can call their GM the worst in the league. The guy took over in 97 when the team was simply awful and taken them to a top ranked team in the East with constant sellouts. That’s from the play of his own draft picks Ovechkin, Backstrom, Varlamov, Holtby, Semin, Green and others. His reign includes a president’s cup and 6 division championships.

      Now, I’ll agree without the playoff success it means little. However I’m not calling him a great GM – I’m simply saying if you think he’s the worst you must not realize how many teams play in the NHL.

  5. sergeikremlin - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    A little surprised by Rutherford so openly cutting Semin down like that. Can’t see that working at all. Why would an elite talent like Semin go to a team who has openly questioned him and basically said he’s on a short leash based on hearsay, before he even gets to make an impression?

    Alex deserves a multi-year deal whether you are a fan of his or a critic. He’s coming off back-to-back one year deals, and a two-year before that. He’s been a top talent in the league for years. Needs a fresh start. Hope he gets it with Datsyuk and the wings.

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:52 PM

      LOL Elite talent
      LOL Hearsay

      You are as clueless as you are bias

      Not a top 70 player in the league but “top talent” according to you.

      Based on Hearsay my my what a chuckle I got out of that, you are named appropriately only the Kremlin would try to spin and lie so much about one of their own.

      Your opinion has no value on any subject ever posted here ever after this clap trap

      • detectivespade - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:07 PM

        I bet you only root for the Wings beacuse they were winning Cups when you started watching hockey as a kid. Clearly you just jump on other people and personally attack them when they say something rather than reasonably argue and discuss things. No sense and no idea what you are talking about.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:28 PM

        I bet I was watching hockey in 1986 considering Im going on 40, Canadian and was 13 year old and suffered for years under Bryan Murray. When the Wings were Rocking Glen Hanlon in net and Shawn Burr to go with guys like Gallant, Probert and Yzerman.

        When I have to keep reading stupidity and outright lies.
        Like the guy who said “Semin blocks shots”

        Semin block 19 freaking shots in 77 games last year for Christ sake.
        Yup Ill call them out for being casual fans, kids who have no clue or complete morons for not looking at the history of the player and the history of the team and GM some a stupidly suggesting would or should make a play to acquire.

        Know exactly what Im talking about and only people who has NO clue about the Red Wings and Kenny Holland suggest differently/

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:36 PM

        rsl22

        Where are the long term deal for millions of dollars? Opps guess NHL GM’s all agree with me, and nearly every analyst as you have pointed out. Btw you left out many others noted hockey people that totally agree with everybody else.

        You however have the bleacher report “featured columnists” (aka anyone with a computer and internet) and commenter on articles agreeing with you.

        Oh yes, Your yammering posting point out who agrees with me and who doesn’t sure does make me feel stupid.

        Why oh why am I not just ignoring the Caps only offering 1 years deals and the entire league largely ignoring Semin as a free agent and started listening to random idiots with a computer.

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:11 PM

      Oh ya, why did Semin only get a 2 year extension 4 years ago?
      Because he was the same guy that I desrcibed

      Why did Semin only get a 1 year deal afterward?
      Because he was the same guy I described

      Why did Semin again only get a 1 year deal?
      Because he was STILL the same guy I described

      Why has Semin been chased out of Washington?
      Because he is still the same guy from 4 seasons ago

      Why is Semin only going to get cheap 1 or 2 year offers at best?

      See above and smarten up

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:11 PM

      Oh ya, why did Semin only get a 2 year extension 4 years ago?
      Because he was the same guy that I described

      Why did Semin only get a 1 year deal afterward?
      Because he was the same guy I described

      Why did Semin again only get a 1 year deal?
      Because he was STILL the same guy I described

      Why has Semin been chased out of Washington?
      Because he is still the same guy from 4 seasons ago

      Why is Semin only going to get cheap 1 or 2 year offers at best?

      See above and smarten up

  6. snipedanglecelly13 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    Lol when is the last time Washington made it to the finals (sorry we swept u) neway u have a huge center piece with ovi and backstrom and semin but yet ur gm and coach duo can’t put together a cup contending team. Caps r a joke!

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:05 PM

      In a Red wings fan you stupid lil boy

      • jpelle82 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:49 PM

        gonna laugh my ass off when your redwings sign him. after the bobby ryan thing fizzles out, i’d be willing to bet you the wings pick up semin to play w/ datsyuk…and i wouldnt be surprised if he flourished. he needs a role model. i rag on semin all the time but you cant deny he is talented. malkin had gonchar to mentor him and help him mature, semin’s never gotten that (fedorov couldnt care less back then). maybe simmer down a bit, the combo with datsyuk might work, just sayin’

      • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

        Red Wings are the Class of the league, they won’t be signing a guy the Caps refused to offer 1 year deals to and then walked away.

        Red Wings do not sign players who sits on the bench with his elbows on the dasher and his head down offering NOTHING but “Woe is me”. We sign players who bring energy and who buy into our system.

        Stupid is the person that thinks that the Wings will offer his anything.
        They won’t offer him the league min. on a 1 year deal ok?

        In Detroit they have this thing called a system, and EVERYONE plays it or they get send packing.

        Semin has refused to buy into ANY system. When things get tough Semin has become a petulant child, and I know many of you have never played hockey in your lives, but sitting on the bench with your head down…elbows on the dasher…is just about the most pathetic display of heartlessness one can show a coach.
        Good players
        Players with Heart
        They rally
        They try to get the boys pumped up to make a difference.
        Semin is self absorbed and a soft lil sooky boy. An embarrassment.

        You are they woman who runs out to date the man some other chick finally got away from after years of abuse.
        “I can change him”

        HE will NEVER play for the Wings
        You have NO CLUE about Fedorov
        AT ALL

        Fedorov ONLY cared about the playoffs and was one of the best players in the world when they began.

        You are an embarrassment to intelligent Wings fans as much as Semin is an embarrassment to Russians

      • jpelle82 - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM

        i’m not a wings fan. pens fan actually but i live in northern va and have seen semin up close for quite a few years now. i wouldnt want him on the penguins but honestly could see a good fit for him in detroit…they need a shot in the arm, they have struck out all over the place in free agency so far.

  7. sjsharks66 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    You think maybe semin is not as good as you claim because of the team he plays on?

    • theawesomersfranchise - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:14 PM

      Or maybe its because he has only ever been trusted with a 2 year deal, a 1 year deal, followed by anther 1 year deal.

      Funny huh? The team that OWNED HIS RIGHTS would never commit to him

      I guess every GM in the NHL must have a thing against the Caps and only one player on the Caps just like me.

      You busted me man, I have been exposed

  8. davidpcoelho - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    Sasha’s talent level is great. I just get a stinking feeling that his heart is not in the NHL. Seems to be missing that drive.

    He played well this last year, and even scored in the playoffs, but this may be less about heart and more about getting paid.

    I can easily see him going to the KHL if he does not get paid “too much” for what he can do in the NHL.

  9. snipedanglecelly13 - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Lol ur pathetic

  10. pg99bassist - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Just as an FYI… Semin wasn’t run out of Washington. His agent came out and said 3 days after the game 7 loss to the Rangers that “his client would not be resigning with Washinton.” He then added they were unhappy with his usage and wanted to play a Top 3 position and be included in the penalty killing duties.

    It was all Semins camp wanting out of Washington, not Washington wanting to run Semin out. So… please try to stop insulting people when the very basis of your argument is wrong. They were signing him to 1 year deals the last 2 years based on his demands. Not the teams. He made more money as a Cap short term because the cap room they had wouldn’t allow for a long term 6.7 million hit in the next 2 years with escalators because of Green, Carlson and Alzner all coming up as RFAs.

    • langforc - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:29 PM

      Facts are not welcome here!

  11. howardforvezina - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    He is only being blamed for what Ovechkin can not do. Semin had to play on a line with a player that was never blamed for anything and every mistake was always pinned on him. Datsyuk is a much better TEAM-mate than Ovechkin will ever be. What Semin needs is a Russian team-mate that is responsible. Everything about him is blown out of proportion.

  12. howardforvezina - Jul 6, 2012 at 1:43 PM

    You have to take risks sometimes you can’t always play it safe. You do not win without taking risks once in a while.

  13. rsl22 - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    theawesomersfranchise:

    Judging from your utter lack of respect for the English language, you’re obviously down in your mother’s basement, deep in the ghetto’s of Detroit, unemployed, uneducated and wishfully imagining the day you will take over as general manager for your beloved Red Wings.

    However, based on the fact you have made zero valid points, habitually refuse to provide absolutely any substance to any thread on this entire site, much less this one, and substantiate your claims that Semin is some sort of cancer based on comments from the likes of Pierre McGuire, Matt Bradley, Mike Milbury or Marc Crawford, I suggest you look into the University of Phoenix with your spare time rather than troll through this site with your excruciatingly unnecessary superiority complex that leads you to believe your opinion matters.

    I will get back to work now; have fun with the startling realization that your life sucks, and winning your 2006-07 ESPN Fantasy Hockey League does not make you an expert.

  14. martysbetter - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    Bring him to New Jersey, give Kovy the C and let him mentor Semin – he was facing all of the same doubts and naysay when he joined the Devils, those two would be DEADLY together if Kovy can get him to understand what he needs to do to win.

  15. snipedanglecelly13 - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Theawesomerfranchise ur so stupid lol it’s not even funny

  16. snipedanglecelly13 - Jul 6, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    I bet datsyuk can make semin a better player, can’t blame him for ovi not being the best teammate. Semin will get 30 with the wings if he’s with datsyuks line. He will b a good pick up.

  17. snipedanglecelly13 - Jul 6, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    Who has pittsburgh signed this offseason?

    • jpelle82 - Jul 6, 2012 at 9:35 PM

      its more like who didnt they sign. got rid of michalek, sullivan, staal, asham. added tanner glass and sutter from carolina. going for the less is more strategy maybe…they got a whole lot younger i know that

  18. zaksyuk - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:50 AM

    Why would i want him blocking shots when jimmy howards in the cage. God i just keep seeing him and datsyuk together and laughing cause his goals are going up to atleast 30. Not as much defense around with datsyuk stalking people haha!

  19. thedavesiknowiknow - Jul 7, 2012 at 5:08 AM

    Just for the sake of being objective: +92 in his NHL career- His personal stats went the way of the Washington Capitals when “bright minds” tried to turn them into a defense first team (and he still managed a career low 21 goals this past season). Ovechkin’s year probably had a lot to do with that. All Canadian xenophobia aside- fear has driven his contract down to a number most North American skaters trump, without doing anything to deserve half the contract- and while he probably already has offers to play elsewhere, for better money- the man is still holding out to play in the NHL. I’ll get it started: Thumbs down- screw me for thinking.

  20. cheers4ablumpkin - Jul 7, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Why don’t the caps just resign him I dont see why not they have mike riberone now

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