Skip to content

Report: Rick Nash would go to the Penguins

Jul 4, 2012, 5:07 PM EDT

Rick Nash Getty Images

Could Rick Nash be the winger Pittsburgh’s been searching for to play with Sidney Crosby? According to Aaron Portzline of the Columbus Dispatch, the Blue Jackets’ captain wouldn’t have a problem with that.

Portzline reports there are at least five teams to which Nash would be willing to accept a trade – the Penguins, Rangers, Flyers, Red Wings and Sharks. (There could be one or two more, but those five are confirmed.)

If the Penguins are interested — big if at this point — the salary cap shouldn’t be an impediment. It’s not known what Pens GM Ray Shero offered to Zach Parise, but it’s safe to assume it was close to Nash’s $7.8 million cap hit.

On top of that, Pittsburgh wouldn’t have to give Nash a ton of money up front – he’s got six years left on his deal with an annual salary that ranges between $7.6 million and $8.2 million.

On the other hand, Nash won’t come to the Pens without something significant going back the other way. So again, if Shero’s interested, what would he be willing to give up?

Pittsburgh has some good prospects like defensemen Joe Morrow and Simon Despres, as well as forward Beau Bennett.

But if Jackets GM Scott Howson wants a roster player that can step in and make a difference right away, what can Shero offer? Paul Martin? Because that might not get it done.

  1. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Too bad Howson will probably ask for a package that includes Crosby, Letang, and the Pens’ first round pick for the entirety of Nash’s career.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM

      Plus Lemieux’s rights should he ever decide to make another comeback.

      • Jay - Jul 5, 2012 at 4:41 PM

        Lemieux will come back if he gets a back/spinal transplant, new legs, and loses 100 lbs. Look out NHL!

    • stakex - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:27 PM

      Probably something like that.

      Seriouslly though, I can’t see how the Pens could come anywhere close to what Columbus wants in return. Look at how hard a time the Rangers have had trying to get a deal done for Nash, and they have quite a few good looking prospects and some solid players they can trade. I don’t see the Pens being able to even beat that, let alone actually get to the price Columbus wants right now.

      Of course I’ve been saying all along Columbus will be forced to drop its price in the near future, so I guess anything is possible.

  2. ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    Martin and Kennedy along with Despres and a pick might though.

    • icdogg - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:22 PM

      Flyers would beat that deal in a second.

      • claysbar - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM

        Problem is the same for the Flyers and the Pens. Everything that Howson wants from either team isn’t available or would just be a lateral move. Both teams would be better off pursuing Bobby Ryan.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

        I’m sure the flyers could beat that deal. I was simply going off previous reports that jackets were looking for two roster players a defensive prospect and a draft pick.

        Reports were they wanted brayden schenn as a key part to other pieces of any deal they made with the flyers. But, since the flyers brought in brayden’s brother I don’t think they’d part with brayden unless they packaged both together. I just don’t think that’s why they brought Luke in.

      • jpelle82 - Jul 5, 2012 at 11:22 AM

        flyers cant beat that deal, they dont have anyone as good to beat the deal with.

      • puckfittsburg - Jul 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM

        The Flyers can give up Shenn, just not Couturier… I want to watch him own Malkin for years to come.

    • t16rich - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:38 PM

      You suck at proposing trades.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM

        Hahahaha, not if your a pens fan…..:) I’m just not willing to give up anyone important who’s prt of the core.

  3. flyersgoalscoredby88 - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:20 PM

    Why does everyone keep offering Paul Martin as though he has value? He’s awful and he’s got a big contract. That’s a contract you force the other team to take not one they ask for. If you’re including Paul Martin you might have to give more than if you don’t include him.

    • claysbar - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

      He would be much better in a Phoenix/NJD style of team. A “D first” team. He just looked good on the NJD’s because he had some offensive ability.

  4. mendenhallfumblemachine - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    Yeah Paul Martin was awful in the playoffs, don’t see why with his contract people seem to delusion themselves into thinking he’s an asset, and Kennedy is hardly anything in comparison to Nash. Realistically, they would have to give up someone as a centerpiece of the trade not just garbage.

    • bethgoesglobal - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:18 PM

      Very true- and they no longer have Staal who could’ve been at the center of such a trade. At this point they have to make some trades with other teams to get a package together that Columbus would take

  5. hermanbates - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    I would have to believe Neal would be in that deal, though I wouldn’t expect that to happen. But if I’m Howson, I’m looking for forwards and more forwards. Not defensive prospects that are a few years away. Maybe the Penguins flip Sutter? Sutter, Neal and a one or Despres?

    • claysbar - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM

      That move just lessens the depth of the team.

      • icdogg - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM

        They’re not giving a marquis player away for anyone’s leftover garbage. So of course it’s going to be a major cost to whichever team acquires him.

      • claysbar - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:51 PM

        I agree with you, but to give up your first line winger and 3rd line center you just traded for along with a potential top 4 D-man just isn’t a smart move especially on a team that doesn’t have a lot of offensive prospects in the system.

      • odj810 - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:28 PM

        that is the point. the asking price for nash is to out of control. No team is going to trade for him at his asking price because it wouldn’t make your team better. it would make them worse.

    • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:45 PM

      There’s no way Shero would part with a 40 goal guy and a potential norris contender for nash. Besides that Sutter was brought in to be the shutdown center to fill Staal’s place. He may not be Jordan Staal but he was filling the same role for carolina and he has 20 goal potential in him.

      Kennedy is a twenty goal guy outside of pittsburgh. Despres is a 20 year old former first round pick who is ready to step in the league on a 2nd defensive pairing.

      Let’s just eliminate the obvious untradables in Crosby and Malkin. If anyone thinks Neal, Letang, Sutter or Fleury are going anywhere anytime soon for the likes of Nash, Ryan or any other big name that could be traded…..they’re stoned.

      • icdogg - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:56 PM

        You don’t get something for nothing.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM

        Agreed but doesn’t it really depend on what the GM’s view of the player is?

        Ryan Whitney got traded for Kris Kunitz and Eric Tangradi. Kunitz has pumped in 49 in the last two years and at 23 Tangradi is about to become a NHL regular.

        Goligoski got traded for James Neal and Matt Niskanen. Neal just put up 40 goals and 80 points while Niskanen put up 21 points and was a respectable +9 in a third defense pairing role.

        Oh and lets not forget about sending Armstrong, Eric Christenson, a pick and Angelo Esposito to atlanta for Marion Hossa. We didn’t keep Hossa but I think in retrospect that trade was as lopsided as any other.

  6. theawesomersfranchise - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Pens don’t have the Juice to get Nash unless they are willing to cough up three 1st’s and Pouliot

  7. pensfan8771 - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    I don’t think I even want Nash on the penguins. I don’t think he’s all that spectacular for 7.8m. … plus Columbus wants the world. I sure wouldn’t give up Neal or even Sutter.

    • t16rich - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:12 PM

      How many times has Rick Nash been a point a game guy? Look that up to justify your point. Rick Nash is good, but he sure isn’t as hot as him and his agent want us to believe. Obviously he hasn’t had the best line mates in Columbus, but a guy with his skill set should at least have a few point a game seasons under his belt. The price is to high right now, but whatever team you cheer for, I would be hoping my GM doesn’t overpay for this guy. Trading for him is one thing, but giving up your own top talent and prospects for him is stupid. Pens fans should cry if they trade either Sutter or Neal for him. He’s worth having on a team obviously, but not at stupid prices.

  8. semin28 - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    I love NBC sports talk

  9. andyreidisfat - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    People have to stop calling Nash a 40 goal guy, in reference to a trade with either philly or Pitt. Truth is if a guy like Nash were to play with guys like Giroux or Malkin and yes even Crosby, he would have 60 goal potential. Malkin dragged Neal to 40 goals and giroux even more impressively got Hatnell to 35. Neither of those two players is really that good. They are both 20 goal scorers without centermen like they had.

    I am not a big fan of giving up any of the young guys on the Flyers for Nash. If they could trade a Briere or Hartnell then i am all for it. I think i’d rather them trade some picks and prospects for Ryan and then either wait till the deadline or put a package together for Weber.

  10. ray2013 - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Neal, Mata and #1. That’s what was asked for earlier; a player, a prospect and a pick. But I think somehow they’d want more.

    • claysbar - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:14 PM

      Mata?

      • t16rich - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:42 PM

        He must be referring to their draft pick from this year. Olli Maatta.

      • ray2013 - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:12 PM

        He was just drafted #22 overall in the 2012 draft. He was the second of their two first round draft picks.

      • claysbar - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:15 PM

        Yeah, kinda keep forgetting about them getting him. The Staal trade kinda kicked that to the back of my brain.

      • ray2013 - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:18 PM

        Olli Maatta. I can’t spell. But he got who I was referring to.

  11. mclovinhockey - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Logically speaking. Martin is over paid so stop offering him.

    Pens may need to give up a big gun like Neal or Letang ( I could see letang going mainly cause the pens won’t be able to resign him) voko could be a smart thing to offer.
    The jackets want 3 huge pieces or 4 big pieces…. Mainly 2nd 3rd liners… Top 4 dmen and picks

    • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:44 PM

      What makes you think they won’t resign letang……If they were willing to spend 6 to 7 on suter they’ll spend 7 on Letang in two years.

      Plus Malkin’s cap hit is already 8.7. They can give him a bigger contract that Crosby in two years and still have it average out to 9.5 and they’ll have only added 800,000 onto his caphit.

      Malkin will be resgined, Letang will be resigned, and the pens have 4 first round defencemen and 3 second round defencemen who are all under the age of 21. Half of those guys will either crack our lineup or someone else’s via trade in the next three years.

      Oh and I’ll keep offering Martin because he is going to get moved in the next three months for a player and a prospect. Just like Whitney did, and just like Goligoski did (Although Niskanen was also a player)

  12. jnealsmanmeat - Jul 4, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    Shero must determine if his girth is on par with soup can sid.

  13. claysbar - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    This is mostly a mute conversation anyways. the big thing they need is D. They led the league in goals in the regular season and had the one of the highest goals scored per game in the playoffs.(granted they only played 6 games) What killed them was dropping a 48% PK in the playoffs which led to the 5.00 goals allowed per game. Sign a guy like Scott Hannan, eats up minutes, rarely injured and doesn’t take stupid penalties. Sign him for 2 mill per for 2 years, let the kids get some pro time and if in the meantime you get a reasonable shot at Weber or Yandle, you jump on it.

    • icdogg - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:18 PM

      Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don’t make

      • claysbar - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:21 PM

        Very true.

  14. geo91 - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    If they can’t resign Geno to a new deal and the deadline comes, pull the trigger. Malkin will never sign with the Jackets and we will all get to see a free agent frenzy over Evgini Malkin in two summers; amazing

  15. philk0731 - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    If Nash is so great, then why was his team the worst in the league last season?

  16. ironcity6pak - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    I agree with 1943mrmojorisin1971 first statement. This deal won’t happen, just another headline to get pens fans excited then sad.

  17. GenoPringles - Jul 4, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Sorry folks, but Nash doesn’t get me excited. Plus we all know that Geno hates him. Last pre season Nash claimed to have more girth than Soupcan Sid, so Geno smashed up his face. Live Free n Girthy USA USA

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM

      You sure are obsessed with other dude’s junk, does your boyfriend get jealous? Or are the Pens players part of your “5 exceptions” list?

  18. Stiller43 - Jul 4, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    Why do people keep mentioning neal in a trade?! He’s a 24 (or 25) yr old 40 goal scorer and will only get better. Pens would be idiots to give up neal.

  19. GenoPringles - Jul 4, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    True. James Makesurmom Neal ain’t going anywhere. This kid is a pure sniper that is basically off limits for any type of trade. Columbus would need to include Jack Johnson and every first round pick for the next decade. So James and his beautiful hair aren’t goin anywhere

  20. imacdane - Jul 4, 2012 at 8:25 PM

    I hate PHT’s obsession with Pittsburgh. This is not worthy of an article.

  21. runtheball - Jul 4, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    Orpik, Dupuis, Kennedy, and a #1.

  22. firemarshal1 - Jul 4, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    Runtheball,

    Not enough! Neal, Dupree, Orpik, and 1st round (8 overall) pick from this year’s past draft.

  23. dawglb - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    This headline is stupid. It’s like saying, “Kid says He’d Eat Candy if it was Given to him”

  24. crise1 - Jul 5, 2012 at 2:10 AM

    At least this city is in the talks, my city toronto can’t get anything done we just lost out on steve nash for the raptors and we are about to loose out on richk nash and im having a hard time believing that luongo is ending up here..

Top 10 NHL Player Searches
  1. D. Alfredsson (2214)
  2. B. Bishop (2089)
  3. M. Fleury (1883)
  4. J. Schultz (1727)
  5. D. Krejci (1723)
  1. J. Boychuk (1672)
  2. E. Staal (1610)
  3. C. Anderson (1525)
  4. R. Lehner (1481)
  5. D. Setoguchi (1310)