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Preds GM feels he was misled by Suter

Jul 4, 2012, 2:27 PM EDT

David Poile

Predators GM David Poile isn’t happy. Obviously. However, it’s not just because he failed to convince Ryan Suter to stay in Nashville. It goes beyond that.

Apparently Poile was under the impression that, above all, Suter wanted to win, i.e. money wasn’t the biggest factor. So why would the 27-year-old defenseman decide to leave a winning team that’s done everything in its power to prove its commitment to winning? If it was for family reasons, as Suter told Poile, well, that’s not what they discussed all year long.

“I was looking at all my notes yesterday,” Poile said. “Ryan had said when we had a meeting in November with he and (agent) Neil Sheehy, he said at the time that he is not going anywhere else, he is signing with the Nashville Predators.”

Poile called it a “missed opportunity” for Suter to combine with Shea Weber to form the “best defensive pair ever in the National Hockey League history.”

Moving on, Poile is now in the market for another defensemen, be it through a trade or free agency.

More importantly, he’ll turn his focus to Weber and attempt to get his captain to sign a long-term contract with the club.

“We want him to be in Nashville for years to come,” said Poile.

You can download the audio of the conference call here.

  1. scionofflame - Jul 4, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    Be warned, someone is a douche and leaves their phone off mute for the conference call audio. :P

    As a Preds fan, I’m not happy with Suter but whatever. He’s moved on and the most important thing is to work on finding someone to fill his slot on the top line and get Weber locked. Next story.

    • lehmansite - Jul 5, 2012 at 12:38 PM

      Sorry but I have never.known why all the hype about Suter. If he doesn’t want to post for the Preds….great find someone who does. Sign Weber, keep Legwand ..who I think is a great player with very little recognition…and find someone that has some drive to replace Webers shadow..that is all he ever was. Without weber let’s see if he is worth anything much less 98 million…which I think is a joke anyway. See ya Suter, I for one am not shedding any tears.

  2. ironcity6pak - Jul 4, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Hey, u guys interested in an over paid D man named Paul Martin?

  3. hines86for6 - Jul 4, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Suter saw the writing on the wall and realized he would always be 2nd best on the Preds, so he tucked tail and ran home to an inferior team.

    100 mill for Ryan Suter is outrageous
    for a non physical defender that never shoots.

    • valhallaviking - Jul 4, 2012 at 2:59 PM

      Preds were about to shell out $90 mill, thats not too much? Id be bent too if I was the girl left alone at the dance.

      • hines86for6 - Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM

        Which I disagreed with. Glad someone else paid him that.

        We have Roman Josi anyway who was excellent as a rookie last year playing with Hal Gill.

  4. michael90212 - Jul 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    I don’t have time to listen to the audio, but I notice that this little blog entry doesn’t include any quote that supports the controversial blog title. You’d think that would be, like, sort of an important thing to include.

    I’m not saying Poile didn’t give that impression, but this blog post doesn’t give me any reason to think he did.

    If it’s true, it’s kind of dirty on Poile’s part. There’s no reason to air your dirty laundry in public. Like most hockey fans, and like most hockey professionals, I have always respected Poile as one of the savviest GMs and also one of the most stand-up, honorable GMs out there. I would be surprised if he truly smeared Suter the way this blog suggests.

    • scionofflame - Jul 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM

      He didn’t smear him, just suggested he was disappointed that the issue of ‘family reasons’ never came up in their conversations until -just- now. All indicators were that Ryan was interested in signing in Nashville, and that the Preds would get a final offer.

      Poile rambles a little and is obviously upset/disappointed, but he didn’t call him a liar or try to smear his reputation.

      • paperlions - Jul 4, 2012 at 4:30 PM

        Maybe the reason “family issues” never came up is because they were irrelevant to signing with Nashville. Poile is probably spinning this hard. He was probably told that TO STAY IN NASHVILLE winning was more important than money….as family couldn’t possibly enter into his decision to stay, only his decision to go.

  5. purpleguy - Jul 4, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Sour grapes — he should look in the mirror and be mad at himself for not locking up Suter well before free agency hit.

    • scionofflame - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:36 PM

      He tried to, Suter didn’t want to sign.

  6. thomaspratt - Jul 4, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    I wonder how many GMs have called Shea Weber’s agent this morning? If there is one player worth the offer sheet compensation, it’s him.

  7. BurkieInBoston - Jul 4, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    This got my wheels spinning … Poile called it a “missed opportunity” for Suter to combine with Shea Weber to form the “best defensive pair ever in the National Hockey League history.” …

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1084783-nhls-20-best-defensive-pairings-ever

    … My personal favorite was Orr & Park for 10 great games only in 75/76 (5-13-18). Any others? …

  8. lordfletcher - Jul 4, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    Poile dropped the ball last year, not Suter in July of 2012.

    end of story

    • scionofflame - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:38 PM

      With the arbitration that Shea Weber went through the and salary we paid him, Poile didn’t have the option to do so. Research, my friend.

      • lordfletcher - Jul 5, 2012 at 1:08 AM

        interesting… you seem to have more money available now than you did last year???… Any offer could have been made to Suter last summer, none was made.

        Common sense my friend. Nothing you say will matter in this, proof is in the pudding

  9. hockeycoach1 - Jul 4, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    Anyone who thinks Josi is a replacement is delusional. He was brutal in the playoffs. Suter was damn good but wasnt worth the money he got. Move on. Lock up Weber or risk becoming irrelevant

    • hines86for6 - Jul 4, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      Never said Josi was a replacement. And for a rookie, he was by no means brutal except that one time Datsyuk pick pocketed him.

      My point is the Preds aren’t desperate for Blue liners with Weber, Klein, Josi, Gill, Ellis, and Ekholm.

    • gekkoguy82 - Jul 5, 2012 at 8:25 AM

      Suter was a non-factor in the playoffs. 0g 0a 0pts, a +/- of 0 against Detroit in five games. 4pts and -3 against the Yotes. Better than the Detroit series, but still had little impact.

  10. jimw81 - Jul 4, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Holmgren pulls a $15 million dollar for one year offer sheet to weber. he’s guy responsible the driving up the market for parise and suter.

    • thomaspratt - Jul 4, 2012 at 4:31 PM

      It’s pretty evil-genius brilliant, although word on the street was always that the Wild’s pitch would partly be based on a massive dollar figure. Still, if Parise had gone to the Pens and it cost them an extra ten million or so because of the Holmgren offer, that a whole new way to mess with your biggest rival

  11. vshehane - Jul 4, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    I don’t blame Poile for being upset. Suter has held the Preds hostage all year. Suter is good, not great. Besides, Leipold will find a way to screw it up.

    • lordfletcher - Jul 4, 2012 at 8:25 PM

      smells like someone is more upset with what happened than what is reality.

      I feel bad for Nashville fans here but in now way did Poile play this one correctly. He had plenty of time to lock Suter up, he chose not to, and this is what can happen.

      Sorry but that’s the nature of the beast

      • ray2013 - Jul 5, 2012 at 12:50 AM

        I’m not sure that’s accurate, fletcher. I recall numerous stories about Poile doing everything he could to encourage Suter and Weber to stay. He even brought back Radulov. I kept reading that Suter and Weber wanted to see if the Preds were committed to building a winner in Nashville. But Suter refused to talk about contracts until after the season.

        If I was a Preds fan, I would have wanted Suter to say what his intentions were. Since we can now say he intended to test free agency, he could have said so early enough for Poile to find a trading partner. With all of the trades being made at or near the deadline last year, who knows who the Preds could have added to their team, and some team would have had Suter in the lineup for a playoff run.

  12. prov1x - Jul 4, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    Suter wouldn’t allow himself to be locked up by Nashville. He was never staying and enjoyed the attention. It’s always been all about Ryan. Not saying a guy shouldn’t look out for himself, but he could have been more up front about leaving, he had an agenda to screw Poile. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal, Preds have D that can step up and fill the spot. Suter only actually hit someone about twice per year, I’m sure Ryan Ellis will be able to fill the spot. That is crazy money for a guy who has never even been a Norris finalist. If it was all about winning, like he kept saying, why go to a team that hasn’t been to the playoffs in four years. I hope Nashville fans are smart enough to boo him loudly when the Wild visit.

  13. dawglb - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    Is this guy new to Planet Earth? Has he never experienced what free agents do?

  14. tmoore4075 - Jul 5, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Personally I think it was more about Parise then it was about family. When Zach came down to Minny and NJ it made Suter’s decision easy. If Parise goes back to NJ what does Suter do? I’ll always wonder that. I’m guessing Minny doesn’t happen. It would have been down to Detroit and Nashville. Then how much of it is family?

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