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Lightning sign Matt Carle to a six-year, $33M contract

Jul 4, 2012, 10:00 PM EDT

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The Tampa Bay Lightning have indeed “closed in” on defenseman Matt Carle. The Bolts signed him to a six-year deal, which Darren Dreger reports is worth $33 million. (Carle’s cap hit will be $5.5 million per year, then.)

Here’s what Carle had to say, via the Lightning.

“I’m excited to be back,” Carle said. “It was a hard decision. The organization is going in the right direction, and I’m happy to be a part of it.”

As mentioned in tonight’s earlier post, Carle represents the latest – and boldest – venture to improve Tampa Bay’s ability to improve its defense and goaltending. GM Steve Yzerman also added Sami Salo to their defensive corps and revamped the team’s goalie duo with unproven prospect Anders Lindback and experienced backup Mathieu Garon.

Perhaps Yzerman has a few more tricks up his sleeve, but this is the biggest addition that the Bolts have made in quite some time. (Maybe since the team hired him as a GM and Guy Boucher as a coach.)

For more on the implications of this move, check here. Also, if you’d like to get an earlier look at Carle’s value, read this post.

  1. icdogg - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    I like Carle but maybe not *that* much. Good luck in Tampa.

  2. mclovinhockey - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Flyers getting smaller, weaker and worse in net…..
    Come on homer….. Now we have to give up future just to be as good as last year.

    • icdogg - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:22 PM

      Not necessarily. The Flyers young players will have another year of experience. They will have Luke Schenn on D. What they need is Bryz to not suck as much.

      • epictron1 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM

        Carle was the weaker and smaller defensemen. Now he’s gone!

    • hockeyfan28 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:36 PM

      Timmonen, Meszaros, Shenn, and Grossman are your top 4 that means you would have shelled out 33 mill for your 5th dman sorry I’d let Bourdon play for that price.

      • hockeyfan28 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:42 PM

        And I forgot about Coburn so he essentially was Philly’s no 6 dman just crazy contract and glad Holmgren passed

  3. pkswally024 - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    This guy…^ it’s not the end of the world.

  4. dirkanger23 - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    No way in hell that Carle is worthy of that contract. That said, Homer needs to step up his game now. His lackluster D-corps just got weaker. The addition of Luke Schenn was nice but they need some more stay at home, clear the front of the net types. The Flyers are a good team right now, but not great. As it stands they’ve lost Carle, JVR, Jagr, Bob & Pronger (permanently unfortunately) with only Schenn in return. Again, step up your game Homer.

    • epictron1 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:04 PM

      The Flyers need to see what they have in their farm system. The have Bourdon, Gus, and Manning ready to come up. Signing a defensemen for a long contract will slow their growth. It’s a gamble to go that way, but the bright side is that the Flyers will have the cap space to sign Weber next year if he is a UFA.

      • mathieug79 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:24 PM

        No way Preds let Weber slip away. NO WAY. they might trade him tho, rumors were they were taking offers for him as soon as they heard the Suter signing.

      • icdogg - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:26 PM

        I agree.

    • mathieug79 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:26 PM

      Compare it to Dennis Wideman’s contract and he’s worth about 8.5, so 5.5 is not so bad considering he blocks 150-200 shots per year. and plays 20-25 mins while being OK offensively.

  5. jimw81 - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    Boy, Holmgren is being smart & not overpaying mediocre talent. Carle flaws was covered when he had Pronger.

    • mathieug79 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:22 PM

      I know alot of Philly fans say that he is flawed, but look at his stats, he was ranked 15th in block shots with 164, that exactly the system the Tampa bay lightning are playing, take alook at all the players (brett clark 199 blocked shots, Eric Brewer 176 blocked shot, hedman 127, kubina 119, ect.) IMO it was either trade 2-3 prospects/picks for Hjalmarsson, or sign Matt Carle who can contribute offensively, and play 20-25 minutes per game. Anyways I would rather have him on my team than Brayden Colburn period.

      • ml3939 - Jul 5, 2012 at 9:31 AM

        Citing one facet of his game as justification is like saying kind of like a goalie letting in 4 of 5 shots and saying well I saved the third one. Carle is not that good and extremely frustrating to watch. Part of his shot blocking is the Flyers’ system. They were 13th as a team and only had 70 less blocked shots than TB, less than 1 a game. Carle’s ice time helps him garner more blocked shots.

        Overall, he is an average skater, good puck handler, if his shot is not blocked, it will often go wide, it couldn’t break a pain of glass, turnover prone, not very good at taking the body and clearly looks better than he is (especially in the offensive zone) due to the talent around him- Pronger until recently and getting ice time with Giroux and other talented forwards that draw defensive pressure. When the Flyers were on the power play, Carle always seemed to have the most space and widest passing lanes because of the other guys on the ice.

        Good for Matt Carle to get paid, better for the Flyers that he is gone. I would rather see Bourdon get a full time shot at playing. He was terrible in his first stint last season but looked like a very talented player in his second stint- very physical guy with a much better shot than Carle.

  6. ravenscaps48 - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    This is proof that when George McPhee said that this was an inflated market… No way should Matt Carle make more than 5 Million Dollars a year

    • jimw81 - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:53 PM

      It’s Jay Feaster’s fault for giving a defenseman that would be 5th on defenseman depth chart 5.5 million.

  7. whlskey - Jul 4, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    Once again, another defenseman in this years FA class being overvalued and overpaid.. Don’t worry about Homer, he knows what he’s doing, otherwise he would have resigned Carle for an absurd cap hit to turn the puck over some more in Philly. I wouldn’t be surprised if Holmgren makes a play at Shea Weber now with a potential offer sheet or a trade for the rights to negotiate with, considering Weber probably wants out of Nashville now that Suter has moved on, and the relationship Homer’s had with Poile and Nashville: i.e. the Hartnell/Timonen for a 1st rd draft pick trade and the Forsberg trade as well.. Either way, I do know that I trust Holmgren to make the right decision, which is to not trade Cooter to anybody.

  8. andyreidisfat - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    Again i like Carle, but he was only the 5th best defensemen on a team that wasn’t great defensively. I wish him all the best, but i think he go waaaaay over paid.

  9. mathieug79 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    i know Matt Carle isn’t worth 5.5 M, but compared to Dennis Wideman’s, J boumeester, and Jason Garrison’s contract this isn’t so Bad, Matt Carle actually Blocks about 100-150 shots per year, and thats what Stevie Y and Boucher a preaching their team to block shots, Carle also can get you points, can work the PP if needed (not that he would be my first choice). IMO we needed to get a top 4 dmen, WE DID, instead of going the trade route, and loose 2-3 prospects we’re still loaded with prospects, and we have a top 4 defensemen, that can hit, block shots, be offensive at times, and also play 20-25 mins per game. All in all, I think this is a good signing by the bolts, comparing him to garrison or wideman is non sense because they are offensive and thats it.

  10. really999 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Maybe instead of chasing or pretending to chase praise/suter flyers should have got their own house in order.

  11. halo81 - Jul 4, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    It’s funny, this board is full of Flyers fans. Make one comment about them that even hints something could be bad, even if it is factual and it’s thumbs down.

    If you post that Claude Giroux is a better player than Wayne Gretzky, thumbs up.

    What do you guys do, sit around all day and then go post it to the countless Philly message boards to get support so you’ve won something? (a Lombardi obviously isn’t happening)

    • really999 - Jul 5, 2012 at 12:04 AM

      Hey they just won the cup though… Oh wait the only wone 1 gm in round 2. My bad

    • melonheadsdaddy - Jul 5, 2012 at 4:21 PM

      I’m on the beach. But I thumbed both of you down. No big deal.

  12. 81rebel - Jul 5, 2012 at 12:03 AM

    If you’re a Flyers fan this is the best possible news of the day!! the turnover machine is long gone!! thank you!!!

  13. dkphilly1122 - Jul 5, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    It’s Coburn…..and I’d take Coburn any day over Carle. I’m glad Tampa over paid for him so Homer didn’t. Tampa fans will see exactly what us Flyer’s fans are talking about instead of assuming we’re hating on them for getting him. Trust me, the Flyers don’t need a turnover machine like him, he only looked good paired with Pronger cause Pronger is/ was a Stud D Man. No way Carle is worth that money, I don’t care what his blocked shots stats say. How many shots did he not block that went in for goals?? Too many and too many breakaways when he was on the ice. Check those numbers out, how many goals were scored by the opposing team when Carle was on the ice.

  14. ndrick731 - Jul 5, 2012 at 12:54 AM

    He did lead the league in turnovers and the next time he checks somebody in front of the net will be the first time he does it. The fact is he is a decent offensive player with well below average defensive skills.

  15. Doesnotmatter - Jul 5, 2012 at 2:21 AM

    so Carle sucks, Richards and Carter were a locker room cancer. Not to mention all they did in Philly was drinking and partying. Bryzgalov is a perfect fit for the Flyers with his balanced personality and Leighton is a competent back up. That sounds about right.

  16. xjokerz - Jul 5, 2012 at 3:40 AM

    Fantastic. My wings will have nobody on the blue line this year. What a disaster this offseason has been. Wtf r u doing Kenny holland ?!

  17. davidfr1 - Jul 5, 2012 at 7:45 AM

    Hey Flyer fan…If Carle was your number 4 or 5 D, why did he lead your defensemen in ice time? Don’t let facts get in the way of your argument.

    • flyeredup202 - Jul 5, 2012 at 8:40 AM

      haha cause lavy had a crush on him…. that was about it… Kid could block shots (lavy loves guys that block shots) and that was about it…..

      • davidfr1 - Jul 5, 2012 at 9:04 AM

        Yeah, ice time is always determined by “crushes” and not merit. Coaches never put the best guy out there. Why would they do something as logical as that? Hard to face facts Flyer fan.

      • flyeredup202 - Jul 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM

        He was not the best d man on the team… Not by far… If you watched any of his games you would know that… He single cost the flyers 2 playoff games because of his lack of puck control and thinking he was good with the puck.

    • hockeyfan28 - Jul 5, 2012 at 8:59 AM

      That’s cause of injuries…Pronger went down for the year..Timmonen being 36… Meszaros getting injured and Grossman getting knee clipped vs. the Pens he kinda got the most ice time by default.

    • jimw81 - Jul 5, 2012 at 9:05 AM

      Know why flyers lost that series against Devils? They struggled against big cycle teams like devils and Carle was getting 23 mins a night.

    • melonheadsdaddy - Jul 5, 2012 at 4:25 PM

      Hey David. Watch a flyers game once in a while. Kimmo was our 2 confirm 3 and carle was between 4-5 every game. It’s about matchups and sacrificing your body…dude turned the puck over way too much..

  18. spavs412 - Jul 5, 2012 at 7:45 AM

    Nice that’s he’s gone from Philly!!

  19. birdzflyinhigh - Jul 5, 2012 at 8:32 AM

    I’m glad Philly didn’t resign him for that contract, and that’s not a knock on carle. Sure, it would’ve been nice to have him back, but at a reasonable price. The flyers are a very good team and extremely young with so many rooks and 2-3 year players. They have a solid core of 5 good defenseman and have Gustafson and bourdon ready to step up and play, so why spend that much on carle? The team is so young and playing at a high level already, so it only makes sense to put the young D guys in and see how they play. If it doesn’t work out, homer has shown that he is not afraid to make a deadline deal (grossman), so there is no reason to waste that $ on carle and tighten the cap space, now they will have the freedom to acquire the player THEY WANT when they’re ready. As usual, well played Homer.

  20. flyeredup202 - Jul 5, 2012 at 8:38 AM

    Homer needs to go out and lock up a Doan or Semin… give G someone on the wing and then look at what scrubbs are left on De out there to go after. Maybe better off bringing up bourdon or gus….maybe evening manning… but right now there is nothing left out there for a BIG time de man… unless you think Kubina will come back and be a different player

    • drunkbro - Jul 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

      I think semin wants to be more of a team player. Its hard to tell if some Russians will buy in or not. But when they do they are dangerous (malkin). If they don’t, its an obvious waste of talent (zherdev comes to my mind)

  21. dannythebisforbeast - Jul 5, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    People who don’t watch 82 games need to STFU. Carle has been below average since Pronger has been out. For every one positive he has two turnovers usually in his own zone. If he’s the best out there at 6 yr 33 mil. It is slim pickings. Blocked shots must be a padded stat because when I think of shot blocker Matt Carle does not come to mind

    • davidfr1 - Jul 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

      If he is below average then your must have a horrible crop of D. Your boy Lavvy definitely watches all 82 games, and maybe even practice and tape. He put him out there more than EVERY other Flyers D. WTFU.

      • melonheadsdaddy - Jul 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM

        Again. You know nothing.

  22. mathieug79 - Jul 5, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    For every block shots Matt Carle does, it meant Bryzgalov has to battle one less puck. I know he’s not worth the money, but compare his contract to all the bad contracts out there, his contract is actually good, also if Steve Yzerman thinks this guy can help us, i’m going to trust him. Also would like to point out that Steve Yzerman was going to either sign, or trade for a top 4 defensemen NO MATTER WHAT. So getting Carle at this price (which is still better than Dennis Wideman’s contract, and Jason Garrison, who I think will be the biggest disapointment. 1 year wonder), means he can keep 2-3 prospects/picks. I rather have him at this price than loose 2-3 prospects/picks,

  23. flyerguy73 - Jul 5, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    That’s the best thing to happen to the Flyers! That guy can turn over the puck for someone else. See ya!

  24. swingondeesenuts - Jul 5, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    This is addition by subtraction for the Flyers. Carle may be the most over-rated defenseman in the NHL. He is a turn over machine who doesn’t like to hit anyone. Is OK on the power play but kills you everywhere else. The Devils completely exposed him during the playoffs.

    No big loss for the Flyers and just frees up money for them to sign other better players.

  25. mojosmagic - Jul 5, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    33m for Matt freaking Carl. Lol. Suckers!

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